Batman Forever

[GoogleMe94]

Exactly, although Two-Face.... this is going to sound stupid.... should act more like Tommy Lee Jones does in all his movies...........when he's not playing Two-Face

LMAO!!!!!t: too true!!

 

[Cain]

But Adam West's performance was serious. Oh and fun fact if it wasn't for that TV series and it's success this board wouldn't even exist as Batman comics would've been cancelled and we probably would've never gotten any movies or 40 years of more Batman goodness.

 

[Victarion]

It seemed like we got two different Gothams in the movie--one semi-gothic with brown and gray overtones, and one Las Vegas. The brown & gray version with Wayne Towers was pretty good. I'll give it that.

 

[The Joker_1000]

But Adam West's performance was serious. Oh and fun fact if it wasn't for that TV series and it's success this board wouldn't even exist as Batman comics would've been cancelled and we probably would've never gotten any movies or 40 years of more Batman goodness.

Adam West still sucked as Batman though.

 

[RobC]

It's not true to the character. Take it or leave it. Batman is not a happy go lucky guy.

I think that's the main problem everyone has with your postings. You're presuming that because Batman is relatively dark now, and was in the beginning, that he has to be dark all the time, or it's not true to the character.

Not true, I don't see how a light campy Batman cannot be true to the character being as it was the character of the time. The writers during the 60's didn't act irresponsibly and make whole-sale changes, they just reacted with the times. Ditto in the 80's.

Bottom line is, you have basically come to the forum, bashed the 60's comics with no basis other then your personal opinions. Some people prefer the lighter comics and think that the darker Batman isn't true to the character, that's all personal opinion. You don't know what is 'true to the character' because you don't write for DC and you don't know anything about the inner-machinations of working on the Batman production process.

Personally I think the comics now-a-days sometimes go too far in their portrayal of Batman as a lone psycho living on the edge, and they need to lighten up occasionally.

You also need to learn to respect other's opinions and stop putting across your opinions as pure factual truth.

Oh, and as for the n00b thing? Get over it, it'll happen for the next 1000 posts or so.

 

[RobC]

Adam West still sucked as Batman though.

Take that back, RIGHT NOW! t:

West was ok, again it's just part of the whole 60's campy thing that some people love, some people hate. I just accept it for what it was, a bit of fun.

 

[Gianakin_]

I just feel lucky we have multiple versions and interpretations of Batman to choose from. I mean, one day I wanna watch BB, another B&R and another BR and another MotP and RotJ (together).

That's something other superhero franchises don't have.

PS: And I hate it that I can't find the Adam West show. I wish there was somewhere I could look (wink wink, nudge nudge?)

 

[Doctor Baywatch]

Adam West still sucked as Batman though.

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[RobC]

I just feel lucky we have multiple versions and interpretations of Batman to choose from. I mean, one day I wanna watch BB, another B&R and another BR and another MotP and RotJ (together).

That's something other superhero franchises don't have.

PS: And I hate it that I can't find the Adam West show. I wish there was somewhere I could look (wink wink, nudge nudge?)

Exactly, Superman fans don't have the strength in depth we have, nor do Spider-Man fans. We're lucky.

Oh, and my guess is try youtube or something similar.

 

[Gianakin_]

Well, Superman fans have a certain variety to choose from, but mostly from television. Their movie franchise is of one continuity and tone, so in that respect they're unlucky.

But there's Kirk Allyn (sp), George Reeve, Chris Reeves/Brandon Routh, TAS, Doomsday, JLU, JLA: NF, Dean Cain, Tom Welling, Superboy... They've got stuff.

But when you look at Batman: Adam West show, the Burton films, the Shumacher films, the Nolan films, TAS, The Batman, JLU, JLA: NF, the 2 movies before Adam West, Birds of Prey(? Nah, not really).

Plus, we need to take into consideration that Superman hasn't been changed as drastically as Batman, throughout his history, so even the aforementioned Superman franchises aren't very different from each other.

Spiderman is almost exactly the same through the years, even more that Superman.

So what if Adam West was campy? It was very faithful to the CANON comics back then. It is legit, it is Batman. So is BF and B&R. Sure, the argument "But we only get a movie every 3 years, so why screw it up?" is a sound one, but I think the variety, ignoring the factors that brought it about, is ultimately a good thing, almost a privilege.

PS: We only need a Batman TV series. I mean, if we're getting a Star Wars one, which I thought impossible, we should get a Batman. Perhaps after Nolan is done, they can do a semi-continuation of hsi trilogy/duology/whatever...?

 

[Doctor Baywatch]

Plus, we need to take into consideration that Superman hasn't been changed as drastically as Batman, throughout his history, so even the aforementioned Superman franchises aren't very different from each other.

I strongly disagree. There is the wife-beater-beating bully Superman, the boy scout and of course Byrne's Marvelman who is Clark Kent with superpowers.

Spiderman is almost exactly the same through the years, even more that Superman.

Spider-Man, yes. But, Superman, no. DC has always been more story- than character-driven. Look at Green Arrow, who went from a Batman clone to a leftist crusader and in the late 80s he became an anti-hero.

PS: We only need a Batman TV series. I mean, if we're getting a Star Wars one, which I thought impossible, we should get a Batman. Perhaps after Nolan is done, they can do a semi-continuation of hsi trilogy/duology/whatever...?

I would love to see a new live action Batman series. I hope they would use a more faithful costume and not such a rubber thing. That would rock.

 

[Gianakin_]

I strongly disagree. There is the wife-beater-beating bully Superman, the boy scout and of course Byrne's Marvelman who is Clark Kent with superpowers.

Fair enough, I don't know very much about him, I'm mostly judging by the non-comic stuff that I've seen of him. But are his changes as drastic as Batman's?

I would love to see a new live action Batman series. I hope they would use a more faithful costume and not such a rubber thing. That would rock.

Sure, they can always take liberties.
I mean, I don't know the plans for the movie Batman's future, but they could acknowledge/not contradict the events of the Nolanverse, take the story from there and interpretate some aspects of Batman differently. A la the Shumacher make-over, provided that you accept his films as a semi-continuation of Burton's duology, which I do.

The main thing is, that a Batman series wold definately work. If Smallville has saved face, mostly, with its very dangerous and narrow-framed premise, then a series about the adventures of a fully established Batman would kick every humanly conceivable kind of butt.

 

[Doctor Baywatch]

Fair enough, I don't know very much about him, I'm mostly judging by the non-comic stuff that I've seen of him. But are his changes as drastic as Batman's?

I would say they are even more drastic. Batman, for me, has always been - basically - the same. From the 30s to the 80s. Just the stories and the "window-dressing" changed. But Superman's personality changed a lot.

Sure, they can always take liberties.
I mean, I don't know the plans for the movie Batman's future, but they could acknowledge/not contradict the events of the Nolanverse, take the story from there and interpretate some aspects of Batman differently. A la the Shumacher make-over, provided that you accept his films as a semi-continuation of Burton's duology, which I do.

The main thing is, that a Batman series wold definately work. If Smallville has saved face, mostly, with its very dangerous and narrow-framed premise, then a series about the adventures of a fully established Batman would kick every humanly conceivable kind of butt.

I think the technology is there now to make a serious Batman show Y ears ago I would have said no, because it couldn't look serious and convinicing.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I think if they did a live-action batman show it wouldnt be done that well coming after the Nolan films.

 

[Gianakin_]

Why do you think that?

 

[RobC]

I think a Smallville-esque show could be done with Batman's early years, very easily. It'd need some sort of main antagonist, and if set in Nolan continuity then it'd most likely have to be R'as, but I still think it could be done well.

 

[Gianakin_]

Having him travel around the world? Could be expensive, although it could take fewer special FX, comparing it to Smallville.
I'm not sure I'd want that kind of show as a first choice, however. I want to see an established Batman a la TAS, only in live action. That would be fantastic.

 

[RobC]

Hmmm, I prefer the Smallville type thing, and he doesn't have to travel the world, you can shoot any place in the world with a blue-screen.

Personally I don't really like the idea of an established Batman show. I don't know why, I just can't see it for some reason.

 

[TLH]

Joel Schmuacher's Batman films don't exist to me.

 

[RobC]

Why?

And try not to use the word nipples or neon in your response.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Joel Schmuacher's Batman films don't exist to me.

You must have been born after '98.

 

[RobC]

Zing.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I think the technology is there now to make a serious Batman show Years ago I would have said no, because it couldn't look serious and convinicing.

Maybe another decade from now. Batman III will be due out in 2011, 7 years from then(which is a decade from now) would be about the right time. They are not exactly here yet, but big budget television shows on the scale of cinema are on their way, George Lucas is leading the way with the new live action Star Wars tv show due out in 2009. If it's a success, things will really start catching on. A live action series focusing on Batman/Bruce Wayne on a large scale would be amazing. The closest any tv show has ever come would be Smallville or Lois & Clark. With the former, we have to sacrafice Superman himself and only get Clark(just as with the idea of the young Wayne tv show) and with the latter, it just had poor effects- it wasn't on a large enough scale. A decade from now is the perfect time for such a thing.

 

[TLH]

You must have been born after '98.

'87

Nope...not even close. I'm just a Burtonite; nothing more.

 

[TLH]

Why?

And try not to use the word nipples or neon in your response.

Just didn't like them...for many reasons that I'm sure you've already heard (i.e: one liners, Batman credit card; colorful Gotham city etc...)