Batman Returns fans united

[KenK]

There's been so many versions of Batman in the comics that it's kind of silly calling Burton's film an elseworld. It's simply another version of the character. Just like Chris Nolan film which has a "realistic" approach to the character.

Exactly! I hate it when people talk about Burton's Batman films and act like they're drastic revisions of the character, compared to what Nolan is doing. Both are equally faithful to the comic.

I enjoy Batman Returns immensely. The characters are very well-fleshed out, and I like what Burton did with Catwoman. The relationship between her and Batman is very interesting and true to the comics, in terms of the balancing of antagonism and attraction. It's very poetic. As for Penguin, I don't think it would have been enough for him to just be a fat, squaty guy with a long nose. There had to be more to his character, and I think that's why Burton went for the whole 'mutant' angle. One of my favorite lines is when he says to Batman, 'You're just mad because I'm a genuine freak, and you have to wear a mask'. And Batman replies, 'you might be right.' It speaks volumes about Batman's relationship to the villains he fights, what they represent in their unchangable outward appearance, as opposed to Batman, who has to change his outward appearance every night to be what he feels he truly is.

Imagine if Two-Face had been treated properly and was a primary villain in a film. It would have been the ultimate psycho-drama!

 

[Spider-Fan]

I thought this was nearly as good as the original. I felt very sorry for Oswald in the movie. I only wish Burton had continued the franchise rather than "he who shall not be named".

 

[AmazinUncleBen]

I thought this was nearly as good as the original. I felt very sorry for Oswald in the movie. I only wish Burton had continued the franchise rather than "he who shall not be named".

Too True.

 

[Mylord]

BR rules all the way. It's best movie with comic book hero and one of most interesing and original in today's cinema.

 

[Catman]

bumping for Bateman.

 

[BatmanRules33]

BR rules all the way. It's best movie with comic book hero and one of most interesing and original in today's cinema.

all thanks too tim burton. hes a genious, what can ya say. returns is like the first matrix in a way. and thank you (forget who started this thread) for making a thread like this. wow, imlearning new stuff about this film everyday, like its new or something! great read, makes me wish burton made a third movie. and i didnt read half these posts cuz i dont want to read ppls ass negative comments, BR was great so damn, deal with it. i think i read that someone liked B$R over BR............thats scary

 

[Catman]

read the negative comments as well. Be a little open minded and perhaps debate those folks. Well, debate the ones who are still around.

 

[Guason]

read the negative comments as well. Be a little open minded and perhaps debate those folks. Well, debate the ones who are still around.

That`s what we should always do, but in the other hand is it really worth reading an opinion like Mister Lennon`s or someone who sees nothing wrong?

 

[Bat Attack]

all thanks too tim burton. hes a genious, what can ya say. returns is like the first matrix in a way. and thank you (forget who started this thread) for making a thread like this. wow, imlearning new stuff about this film everyday, like its new or something! great read, makes me wish burton made a third movie. and i didnt read half these posts cuz i dont want to read ppls ass negative comments, BR was great so damn, deal with it. i think i read that someone liked B$R over BR............thats scary

I agree!

 

[Catman]

I don't know why, but I just feel like bumping this thread.

 

[Danny No-Shame]

I watched it last night on TCM. It is a fine piece of work and I believe the best of the original bunch. I think it's definitely the most 'Burton-esque' of the lot and you can really tell everybody had a blast putting it together.
Plus Michelle Pfeiffer in Latex! I was a teenager when it came out so how long do you think that little image stayed with me? In fact, I may just go crack one off right now.

Dear God, please forgive for saying things like 'Burton-esque'.

 

[Catman]

The movie was on TCM last night?! Cool.

 

[The Joker]

This is still one of my favorite Batman movies, and one of my favorite movies of all time.

Brilliant performances delivered from all, particularly from DeVito and Pfeiffer. They're still my fav on screen Batman villains to date. The emotional impact they delivered along with their villainous menace, is better than anything the other Bat villain actors have given IMO.

The music, Gotham's architecture, the atmosphere, the snow, I just love it all. Great movie.

 

[Catman]

^ Yeah, I like it more than Batman Begins.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

This is still one of my favorite Batman movies, and one of my favorite movies of all time.

Brilliant performances delivered from all, particularly from DeVito and Pfeiffer. They're still my fav on screen Batman villains to date. The emotional impact they delivered along with their villainous menace, is better than anything the other Bat villain actors have given IMO.

The music, Gotham's architecture, the atmosphere, the snow, I just love it all. Great movie.

Good call. Wonderful, sublime production design. The character, the visuals and the music fit so well together it's seamless.

To think that some dismiss it simply because they don't think it resembles the comics enough.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

^ Yeah, I like it more than Batman Begins.

Me too.

 

[Rockbottom]

His first Batman film was a disaster in this respect: it visually lacked both imagination and control. He knew he screwed up, and this time he fixes nearly everything that was broken the first time around. He still has that dead melodramatic third act, but everything else is great.

While i like the film alot, Batman is much better imo. I think returns could of really been great, just there is hardly any Batman in it. Add more scenes with Batman in and take out the kamazai penguins, and you got a kick ass movie.

 

[Bat Attack]

I wish I would have known it was on TCM! They always show films in widescreen with no commercials, and they aren't cut.

 

[Bat Attack]

Me too.

Me three.

 

[union_jak]

It will always be my favourite film, not just out of the Batman movies, but of every film there is.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

It will always be my favourite film, not just out of the Batman movies, but of every film there is.

What it someone makes a film you like more?

 

[Catman]

While i like the film alot, Batman is much better imo.

Yeah, I also prefer B89 for several reasons. 1) I thought it had more of an interesting approach. Batman Returns was an amazing film but it was pretty much a Tim Burton film. B89 combined Kane/Finger, Frank Miller, and Tim Burton. I thought that was an interesting combination. 2) I liked the British feel. Nolan, f--ked up his British feel by shooting in Chicago. In B89 there's just something great about watching Bruce Wayne drive out of his castle. lol. 3) I actually prefer Anton Furst's production design. 4) Batman's costume/suit was WAY better. 5) B89 has flaws and I'll be the first to admit that, but I felt the story was very good. Returns didn't have the strongest story and I was disappointed that Harvey Dent wasn't in the film.

But...Batman Returns is still my 2nd favorite Batman film. It's the deepest and most artistic Batman film EVER made. So far anyway...

 

[union_jak]

What it someone makes a film you like more?

I don't see that happening.

Some have tried, but none can compete. Returns has been around for most of my life, I grew up watching it nearly every week as a child. I think I use Returns as a standard now, and nothing has compared to it so far. I doubt that I could ever say of a movie "This is greater than Returns."

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I don't see that happening.

Some have tried, but none can compete. Returns has been around for most of my life, I grew up watching it nearly every week as a child. I think I use Returns as a standard now, and nothing has compared to it so far. I doubt that I could ever say of a movie "This is greater than Returns."

What about Edward Scissorhands? That's Burton's masterpiece.

 

[Nepenthes]

BR is a beautiful movie that manages to be real crap if viewed in the wrong perspective. :heart: