BvS Batman Vs Superman Manips & Art - Part 10

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The lenses look best if they're contact lenses which make the eyeball look all white, imo.

I respectfully disagree. I prefer snake slits. Actually, I don't like white contacts at all.

I'm probably in the minority but I don't think the white lenses add anything, I like the blackened-eye look better. I'm not against them but they don't do anything for me.

Well, to me, Batman always looks better when his real eyes are obscured. Even in the set pics:

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He looks more intimidating in the first one to me.
 
Agreed. I love when the brows cast a deep shadow over his eyes.
 
Maybe black contacts would be an interesting choice...for that demonic, unnatural look, but probably wouldn't go over well with fans.
 
Well, to me, Batman always looks better when his real eyes are obscured.

I agree with that too. Part of the reason I prefer the blackened-eye look is those moments when you can't see his eyes at all.
 
well-executed the white eyes do work though.

here you go, did some editing through the mechsuit visor

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simply 'whiting' the eyeballs doesn't work. the comic batsy doesn't have that, either. the bat-eyes with the mask are somewhat rectangular, not round/almond-shaped - while the unmasked bruce wayne has normal human eyes.

so offcourse simply making human eyes white doesnt work because it doesn't have the right shape.

i agree having hardly visible eyes does look more 'menacing'.
this is pure gold

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well-executed the white eyes do work though.

here you go, did some editing through the mechsuit visor

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simply 'whiting' the eyeballs doesn't work. the comic batsy doesn't have that, either. the bat-eyes with the mask are somewhat rectangular, not round/almond-shaped - while the unmasked bruce wayne has normal human eyes.

so offcourse simply making human eyes white doesnt work because it doesn't have the right shape.

i agree having hardly visible eyes does look more 'menacing'.
this is pure gold

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the comic batman does have that. that's why he can squint as well, and you see that change in the eyes in the comics and cartoons. it's the only thing that achieves that same effect. and your manip is yet another demonstration of the problem with built in white lenses.

if you want to go for the dorito eye look of some of his depictions, then you have to take the live action spiderman route. But that doesnt really work for batman. If you want a more normal eye shape, which you see more so in the comics, i think, then it has to be built into the cowl, and certainly has to be smaller.
 
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Maybe black contacts would be an interesting choice...for that demonic, unnatural look, but probably wouldn't go over well with fans.

You mean completely blackening his eyes? Interesting idea, but I think it would look way too creepy.

I agree with that too. Part of the reason I prefer the blackened-eye look is those moments when you can't see his eyes at all.

Well, yeah that is true, but in moments when you can see his eyes, it doesn't look that good and can look even silly at times, I find. I think white lenses that don't really glow, but have a slight reflection in certain lighting and are obscured the same way his real eyes are in when in shadow would work perfectly.


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the comic batman does have that. that's why he can squint as well, and you see that change in the eyes in the comics and cartoons. it's the only thing that achieves that same effect. and your manip is yet another demonstration of the problem with built in white lenses.

if you want to go for the dorito eye look of some of his depictions, then you have to take the live action spiderman route. But that doesnt really work for batman. If you want a more normal eye shape, which you see more so in the comics, i think, then it has to be built into the cowl, and certainly has to be smaller.

Depends on the art. Jim Lee's batman would rarely squint or change the shape of white eyes in any way, I believe he got closest to what lenses would look like in film than any other artist. And that snake slit shape is perfect. CGI-ing such lenses would work perfectly, as it avoids practical problems of lenses being too small for actor to see and Snyder is not stranger to CGI. Also, before this argument is made again, no, I don't think it is needed to see actors real eyes, the same it wasn't needed for Judge Dredd, "V" and many other characters...
 
You mean completely blackening his eyes? Interesting idea, but I think it would look way too creepy.



Well, yeah that is true, but in moments when you can see his eyes, it doesn't look that good and can look even silly at times, I find. I think white lenses that don't really glow, but have a slight reflection in certain lighting and are obscured the same way his real eyes are in when in shadow would work perfectly.



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Depends on the art. Jim Lee's batman would rarely squint or change the shape of white eyes in any way, I believe he got closest to what lenses would look like in film than any other artist. And that snake slit shape is perfect. CGI-ing such lenses would work perfectly, as it avoids practical problems of lenses being too small for actor to see and Snyder is not stranger to CGI. Also, before this argument is made again, no, I don't think it is needed to see actors real eyes, the same it wasn't needed for Judge Dredd, "V" and many other characters...
Yeah it's just that the cowl would have to be specially made for the lenses, with smaller eye holes. You couldn't just stick white lenses in the existing cowl. TDK did that, and it looked very odd, and imo, the same is true of the Batfleck cowl. I certainly don't agree with him having black eyes. It doesn't look right. I think that with either white lenses built into the cowl or white contact lenses, it's got to be much closer to being eye-sized and not the big Spiderman-sized white lenses. Because the problem with that, and a whole lot of these white lens manips is that the cowl loses all sense of seriousness/creature-of-the-night feel to them. It completely negates the look of the cowl itself, and the end result is that the end product basically becomes more campy, appearance-wise.
 
Yeah it's just that the cowl would have to be specially made for the lenses, with smaller eye holes. You couldn't just stick white lenses in the existing cowl. TDK did that, and it looked very odd, and imo, the same is true of the Batfleck cowl. I certainly don't agree with him having black eyes. It doesn't look right. I think that with either white lenses built into the cowl or white contact lenses, it's got to be much closer to being eye-sized and not the big Spiderman-sized white lenses.

Yeah, but that's why I said that CGI would work. Even if they could make such a narrow lenses built into the cowl so close to the eye without the risk of serious damage I don't think they'd allow actor to see much. I am usually more for practical solutions as opposed to CGI, but I find that this is the example that calls for the latter.
 
Yeah, but that's why I said that CGI would work. Even if they could make such a narrow lenses built into the cowl so close to the eye without the risk of serious damage I don't think they'd allow actor to see much. I am usually more for practical solutions as opposed to CGI, but I find that this is the example that calls for the latter.
That's also why I think CGI'd white contact lenses are the way to go over thinner white lenses built into a cowl that's designed around that, because then you're limiting his peripheral vision if the built-in lens is small (which looks better, imo).

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Even with white lenses that cover the whole eye, I think something like this, of this size, is the only way to do built-in lenses in a way that still complements the design of the cowl. They could certainly do that, but that's definitely not the case with BvS. I also support practical solutions, but yeah, CGI would be best, as well as a certain suspension of disbelief.

An issue that I have with him having no white lenses is that, when his eyes aren't concealed, he loses that intimidating look. For those who saw the leaked Batman picture (the color one that showed the real color of the suit), that picture didn't look intimidating at all. He looked like a normal guy in a cool-looking Batsuit. His eyes would have to always be concealed to always look intimidating. White eyes, imo, remove a bit of the humanity from Batman, and push him more towards a creature of the night.
 
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That's also why I think CGI'd white contact lenses are the way to go over thinner white lenses built into a cowl that's designed around that, because then you're limiting his peripheral vision if the built-in lens is small (which looks better, imo).

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Even with white lenses that cover the whole eye, I think something like this, of this size, is the only way to do built-in lenses in a way that still complements the design of the cowl. They could certainly do that, but that's definitely not the case with BvS. I also support practical solutions, but yeah, CGI would be best, as well as a certain suspension of disbelief.

An issue that I have with him having no white lenses is that, when his eyes aren't concealed, he loses that intimidating look. For those who saw the leaked Batman picture (the color one that showed the real color of the suit), that picture didn't look intimidating at all. He looked like a normal guy in a cool-looking Batsuit. His eyes would have to always be concealed to always look intimidating. White eyes, imo, remove a bit of the humanity from Batman, and push him more towards a creature of the night.

Indeed. I immediately remember how much less unsettling Voldemort looked like in Harry Potter films, because they kept Ralph Fiennes' real eyes, instead of giving him red snakelike ones. There are manips of him with eyes like ones he has in the books and he looks much better. Much less human and more similar to snake in appearance, which was the very idea behind his look, given that part of him lives in a snake.

But this is the exact reason why I still prefer this look to white contacts like in your manip above (it is a good manip though):

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It is so very bestial. Just imagine them more like mirror than white, with a slight glow when reflecting light, but completely obscured when in shadow.
 
Sexy as hell.

Shame it's a MOS suit though.
 
It's probably such a minor thing to everyone else but man I miss the shield from Man of Steel on the new suit.
 
I prefer it as well. It just sits better on the suit.
 
Add me to that list. I loved that shield.
 
It's probably such a minor thing to everyone else but man I miss the shield from Man of Steel on the new suit.

They're still both miles ahead of the tiny Superman returns one, so I'm thankful for that.
 
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