BvS Batman Vs Superman Manips & Art - - - - Part 13

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I love the pre 52 Superman and his suit (while I hate the new 52 ones, that's another topic tho), but c'mon ... It's 2016 and some of you guys want him to wear red underwear above his tights in a live action movie. That's a relict of the past that many want back just because of nostalgia. Modernize the trunks in a logic way first and we can talk.

The Phantom, Batman and Wolverine wear their trunks (not underwear) in codtume. Why is Superman and ONLY Superman hit with silly* complaint?

*Silly: No credible basis.
 
If they start adding red on the suit it will eventually end up like this :

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And this is a complete mess. Might as well put the underwear on.
Dear god. Hide the children. What is that thing?!



JLA Versus Avengers.
Makes me sad we will never live long enough to see a live action crossover
 
All the superhero costumes with outside undies get the same non-silly complaint. Not just Superman.
 
The Phantom, Batman and Wolverine wear their trunks (not underwear) in codtume. Why is Superman and ONLY Superman hit with silly* complaint?

*Silly: No credible basis.
Sigh, it's not like I've actually given reasons for why I think the trunks don't work imo. Same goes for every other hero, with Quailman being the exception ... It would probably work for him if there ever was a real action movie.
 
No matter what they look like, the 'S' is universal.
 
This is final composition I'm going to go with.

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The Phantom, Batman and Wolverine wear their trunks (not underwear) in codtume. Why is Superman and ONLY Superman hit with silly* complaint?

*Silly: No credible basis.

Batman never really wore visible trunks in the movies as far as I know. And Wolverine certainly didn't. It's not a silly complaint....keeping them is the silly complaint. As someone has already said, it's a relic. There's no practical reason to keep them. Are they functional? No. Are they aesthetically pleasing? No.

Keeping an outdated design for pure nostalgia is usually the cause of it's inevitable demise.
 
Batman never really wore visible trunks in the movies as far as I know. And Wolverine certainly didn't. It's not a silly complaint....keeping them is the silly complaint. As someone has already said, it's a relic. There's no practical reason to keep them. Are they functional? No. Are they aesthetically pleasing? No.

Keeping an outdated design for pure nostalgia is usually the cause of it's inevitable demise.

couldn't of said it any better.. even outside of North America the character is ridiculed for it's look. Whereas other comic book characters are not because majority of the audiences only know the cinematic versions.
 
Batman never really wore visible trunks in the movies as far as I know. And Wolverine certainly didn't. It's not a silly complaint....keeping them is the silly complaint. As someone has already said, it's a relic. There's no practical reason to keep them. Are they functional? No. Are they aesthetically pleasing? No.

Keeping an outdated design for pure nostalgia is usually the cause of it's inevitable demise.

It's funny, but people act as if it's a part of Superman's characterization.

"The trunks represent a self-awareness and lack of seriousness that should represent the Superman character."

Or maybe, it's a hangover from the golden age that people kept because of tradition.

I say this about Batman too, but because Batman got a costume upgrade in the movies, people were freer to bash Superman for his trunks.
 
Batman never really wore visible trunks in the movies as far as I know. And Wolverine certainly didn't. It's not a silly complaint....keeping them is the silly complaint. As someone has already said, it's a relic. There's no practical reason to keep them. Are they functional? No. Are they aesthetically pleasing? No.

Keeping an outdated design for pure nostalgia is usually the cause of it's inevitable demise.

I'm no fan of the trunks but capes aren't functional either, for any character, and "aesthetically pleasing" is a subjective thing. If this post is you just venting then fine but if you really want to attempt to persuade others in regards to the trunks you should make a better arguement.
 
I'll just add this and then we can go back to the manips. It's crazy how suddenly everyone post Nolan Batman trilogy is looking to find a REASON/PRACTICALITY to everything in a comic book based movie. Why does every damn thing have to be explained? Are people that idiotic nowadays? To the point that they can't accept something or go along for the ride, if every single gesture, move, aspect of a movie isn't explained on screen? You guys now sound exactly like those studio executives that ruined so many past comic book movies because they had their notes and questioned every single thing and muted costumes, characters and such, to the point of the movie only being a shadow of the source material. I don't have a problem with the current costumes, i love them (few small nitpicks but close to perfect). I do have a problem with this idiotic and elitist notion that we NEED everything to have a logical and realistic reason that also MUST be explained to us in the movie or the movie won't work. I knew people stopped having an imagination and enjoying fantasy a long time ago, but this is a really insane level we've sunk to now.

I'm done with my rant now. I'm probably getting senile these days in my "old" age.
 
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The Phantom, Batman and Wolverine wear their trunks (not underwear) in codtume. Why is Superman and ONLY Superman hit with silly* complaint?

*Silly: No credible basis.

Batman moved away from the trunks in the comics a while ago. Wolverine doesn't wear them any more either, and if he did, he's The ****ing Wolverine. He could wear a tut and it would be badass.
As for The Phantom, that's an argument? ;)

I'm no fan of the trunks but capes aren't functional either, for any character, and "aesthetically pleasing" is a subjective thing. If this post is you just venting then fine but if you really want to attempt to persuade others in regards to the trunks you should make a better arguement.

Batman's cape is VERY much a functional tool. Not just in terms of gliding and cover, but in completing his intimidating image, which is one of the biggest tools in his belt.

Superman's cape is often justified, as it was in MOS, and similar to how much of his suit is justified, by the fashion and customs of Krypton. 'Hope' anyone?

Now, that said, the exact same could have been used to justify the trunks for Kal, especially in MOS.
First off, speaking in MOS specifically now, Kal's suit is centuries removed from "modern" Krypton, coming from the ancient scout ship. This is emphasized/showcased in the colours. Superman's suit has more colour than all other modern Kryptoinian's put together, lol.
Modern Kryptonians clothes are all but monochromatic.

Combine all that with the fact that, despite their claims that they tried many designs but could not make them work, we've seen some of those designs and they worked great. There's no reason modern Kryptonian's garments couldn't have included the seam lines around were their "trunks" would be, similar to some of the "trunkless" Batman designs, and even, to a lesser extent, the aforementioned Phantom, then Kal's suit could have simply had that area also a different colour. Same as how the background of everyone's crest on Krypton was the same colour as the glyph, but Superman's was a different colour from the S glyph itself.


Now, all THAT said, the MOS suit is probably the first trunkless Superman suit that I've seen that I think actually works, and looks good. I REALLY wish they would adopt it, or something more similar, in the books, over that atrocious 'Kryptonian battle armor' New 52 ****e.
 
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