Batman Vs. Superman Who Would Win

[Ultimate_Superman]

No thats how it happened Superman was trying to talk to Spider-Man and figure out whats going on but Spider-Man wanted to fight and since Spider-Man suit was giving off red sun rays he was holding his own for a min. Then it wore off just when Superman got fed up and was about to lay the Smackdown on him and Superman saw that and stopped his punch an inch from Spidey's face but the force of how hard he was going to hit him sent him flying.

 

[stardust]

Nice, only that I'd put Christopher Reeve's face in there. And of course he would win.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Just get a piece of krytonite and Bats could win easily.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Just get a piece of krytonite and Bats could win easily.

Not true read Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. Lex had a huge chunk of kryptonite and Superman just kept his distance and blew it out of his hand. Then just beat him from there.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Not true read Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. Lex had a huge chunk of kryptonite and Superman just kept his distance and blew it out of his hand. Then just beat him from there.

That wouldn't happen on Smallville

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

That wouldn't happen on Smallville

If Superman acted like how they write Clark on Smallville he should be put out of his misery then. I mean don't get me wrong I like the show and all but they just have so many problems. After a while I just learned to like the show for what it is and not expect more or else I will be disappointed.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Just get a piece of krytonite and Bats could win easily.

Superman has put up with massive amounts of kryptonite before.

And all Superman would have to do is keep a safe distance and then blast the kryptonite away with his heat vision.

Superman is just far too powerful to be beaten by Batman.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Batman has beat Superman......end of story.

The Dark Knight Returns doesn't count. The fight in Hush concluded before Superman could beat Batman (even in Batman's words). Superman defeated Batman with ease in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and Sacrifice.

Any in canon comic that has Batman winning is clearly done with poor writing on account that they have no idea how to portray Batman being a regular human or Superman practically being a god.

 

[hippie_hunter]

http://judgescourt.deviantart.com/art/Superman-vs-Batman-39965852

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Superman is just far too powerful to be beaten by Batman.

Funny since he's proven to be capable of doing it.

The Dark Knight Returns doesn't count.

Sure it does because it establishes how Batman did and could do it again.

The fight in Hush concluded before Superman could beat Batman (even in Batman's words).

Batman won that by tricking putting Lois in danger.

Batmans words, it was his staratigy to have Catwoman threated one of the Daily planets staff in the hope it would bring Superman to his sences.

And it did.Thats a win.And Batman would be willing to do so again if he had to.

Superman defeated Batman with ease in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel

Which is questionable sine many who read the book believe that the fight may have been staged to fool Luther.

To be honest I'm not sure where I stand on that one but eith way it was suposed to be early in both of their carrires as herors.

Batman wouldnt have known all he "NOW" knows about Superman and how to defeat him.

and Sacrifice.

Thats the one that doesnt count since Superman wasnt in control of himseld and was doing thing he would "NEVER" normally do.

Any in canon comic that has Batman winning is clearly done with poor writing on account that they have no idea how to portray Batman being a regular human or Superman practically being a god.

Canon has no bearing in this debate since no critria was set forth other then the nameing of the characters.

As for the rest of your statement....your welcome to your opinion but Superman being almost a God is hardly a bases for declaring him a winner.

As I said before....all the powers of a God are useless if that God isint willing to use those powers to their fullest extent.

And Gods can be killed...at least in comics.

http://judgescourt.deviantart.com/art/Superman-vs-Batman-39965852

Funny.....but Superman doing that would be out of character.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Superman, no competition.

This coming from someone who like Bats way more.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Which is questionable sine many who read the book believe that the fight may have been staged to fool Luther.

To be honest I'm not sure where I stand on that one but eith way it was suposed to be early in both of their carrires as herors.

Batman wouldnt have known all he "NOW" knows about Superman and how to defeat him.



Thats the one that doesnt count since Superman wasnt in control of himseld and was doing thing he would "NEVER" normally do.

So it doesn't count or come under question when Superman beats Batman but in all the time Batman has "beaten" Superman he has had to have help in doing so that he has in fact never done it alone but those do count.

 

[The Sage]

Thats the one that doesnt count since Superman wasnt in control of himseld and was doing thing he would "NEVER" normally do.

Oh come on. You count Batman beating Superman in Hush despite Superman not being in control of himself, but Superman in Sacrifice doesn't?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

So it doesn't count or come under question when Superman beats Batman but in all the time Batman has "beaten" Superman he has had to have help in doing so that he has in fact never done it alone but those do count.

Batman is known for cheating....its what he does any anyone would be stupid to expect any less from him.

And I didnt say that that the fight in "Luther: Man of steel doesnt count.

I said that there are 2 logical possible reasons why things went that way.

And how can anyone count "Sacrifice" as a win for Sups when Superman wasnt driving his body at the time???

Oh come on. You count Batman beating Superman in Hush despite Superman not being in control of himself, but Superman in Sacrifice doesn't?

Because Batman was in control of himself acting as he normally would.

He was not hampered at all.

Superman on the other hand was not in control of himself and was doing things he would never normally do and yet Batman still won.

The test is wether the winner was in control of himself and wether the loser was useing his abilities to his normal behaivor.

In both cases Superman was not under his own control and acting out of character.

Yes Superman beat on Batman in one fight but that doent count a s a win for Superman because Superman wasnt even awaer he was fighting Batman

Its a win for who ever was in control of Superman....in that case Max Lord.

On the other hand in Hush it was Batman that won......and it counts as a win for Batman because instead of taking out the person in control of Superman [Poison Ive] he used a tatic that would work on Superman even if he was under his own control.

Threating anyone of Supermans loved ones is a sound tatic and would be an eficent way to set up Superman for the killing blow....in a matter of speaking.

 

[The Sage]

Batman is known for cheating....its what he does any anyone would be stupid to expect any less from him.

And I didnt say that that the fight in "Luther: Man of steel doesnt count.

I said that there are 2 logical possible reasons why things went that way.

And how can anyone count "Sacrifice" as a win for Sups when Superman wasnt driving his body at the time???



Because Batman was in control of himself acting as he normally would.

He was not hampered at all.

Superman on the other hand was not in control of himself and was doing things he would never normally do and yet Batman still won.

The test is wether the winner was in control of himself and wether the loser was useing his abilities to his normal behaivor.

In both cases Superman was not under his own control and acting out of character.

Yes Superman beat on Batman in one fight but that doent count a s a win for Superman because Superman wasnt even awaer he was fighting Batman

Its a win for who ever was in control of Superman....in that case Max Lord.

On the other hand in Hush it was Batman that won......and it counts as a win for Batman because instead of taking out the person in control of Superman [Poison Ive] he used a tatic that would work on Superman even if he was under his own control.

Threating anyone of Supermans loved ones is a sound tatic and would be an eficent way to set up Superman for the killing blow....in a matter of speaking.

I can't count Hush as legit win since Superman wasn't himself. Using Lois Lane as bait doesn't make a difference.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I can't count Hush as legit win since Superman wasn't himself.

Thats your right.

Using Lois Lane as bait doesn't make a difference.

To you it might not....and as I said thats your right, but in a real fight it could make all the difference giving Batman the advantage he needs to win.

It could provoke Superman in to making a mistake out of anger or it could distract him long enough to deliver the winning blow....by what ever means Batman does it by.

 

[Franklin Richards]

What if Superman travels back in time and makes sure Bruce's parents weren't killed? Would that be a win?

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

What if Superman travels back in time and makes sure Bruce's parents weren't killed? Would that be a win?

I dont know if I would even classify that as a fight.

But I guess if he did that in a middle of a fight with Batman so that he could win then yes it would be a win for Superman.

But here's the real question.........when has it been in Supermans character to do that type of thing just to win a fight????

 

[The Sage]

To you it might not....and as I said thats your right, but in a real fight it could make all the difference giving Batman the advantage he needs to win.

It could provoke Superman in to making a mistake out of anger or it could distract him long enough to deliver the winning blow....by what ever means Batman does it by.

Yeah, but it doesn't count as a legit win over Superman since he wasn't himself, just as he wasn't himself in Sacrifice.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Yeah, but it doesn't count as a legit win over Superman since he wasn't himself, just as he wasn't himself in Sacrifice.

To me Hush counts as a more significant win for Batman because of that same fact.

Batman won against a Superman that was willing to do things that Superman would never stoop to doing while under his own control.

To me the fact that Batman won under those conditions proves hes more then capable of beating Superman and coming up with a winning strategy to beat Superman under normal control.

Lets face it, Batman's strategy to defeat the entire JLA worked in Tower of Bablel.

His plans there took down Plastic Man,The Flash,Green Lantern,Aquaman ,The Martin Manhunter, Wonderwoman and Superman.

You cant take that win away from him just because he didnt carry out the plan.

 

[scatterax]

To me Hush counts as a more significant win for Batman because of that same fact.

i knew it, u do have double standard when it comes to this fight.

 

[Franklin Richards]

To me Hush counts as a more significant win for Batman because of that same fact.

Batman won against a Superman that was willing to do things that Superman would never stoop to doing while under his own control.

To me the fact that Batman won under those conditions proves hes more then capable of beating Superman and coming up with a winning strategy to beat Superman under normal control.

Lets face it, Batman's strategy to defeat the entire JLA worked in Tower of Bablel.

His plans there took down Plastic Man,The Flash,Green Lantern,Aquaman ,The Martin Manhunter, Wonderwoman and Superman.

You cant take that win away from him just because he didnt carry out the plan.

I guess you have to take away all of Batman's kryptonite wins away because Lex planned that first.

 

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

i knew it, u do have double standard when it comes to this fight.

Where do you see a double standard????

How is it a double standard to credit the man for not only winning against a superior force but also a superior force unchecked by the norms that normally govern that force????

Fact is Batman won in "Hush" against a Superman that was not in control of himself because he had the chance to plan for the fight.

In "Sacrifice" Batman lost against a Superman that was not under his own control because he was caught off gard, because he didnt have a chance to plan for the fight.

Its not a double standard its a simple fact....given the time to plan Bats wins.

I guess you have to take away all of Batman's kryptonite wins away because Lex planned that first.

What???

What does being first have to do with anything????

Sometimes your logic makes no sence at all.

I never said anything about Batman having plans first.

The fact is Batmans plans in Tower of Bablel took out the entir JLA.

Granted he didnt carry them out...the plans were stolen by Ras Al Ghul and then carried out by him but they were still Batmans plans.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Well Lex planned taking Superman out with Kryptonite. Those plans were stolen by Batman and then carried out by Batman but they were still Lex Luthor's plans.


This is your reasoning. Not mine. So it is in fact your logic that doesn't make sense.

 

[stargazer]

This thread amuses me greatly. haha!