Batman: Year One

And i like the voice of Mckenzie here.Works well.
Yeah, this is the first time where I can actually feel comfortable with his performance. Though I think it has a lot to do with him saying his lines as Bruce. His Batman is what I had issues with.

I also hope they keep the whole voiceover/hearing his thoughts to a bare minimum, even though the comic is basically written that way.
As introspective as Batman is, it is my preferred delivery. I always imagined him to having a quiet and serene exterior, but his mind as being constantly on overdrive. Only speaking out loud when he needs to.

It wouldn't be very exciting to have a mute hero, so I find the noir inspired narration to be a pleasing medium.
 
This is the film that "Batman Begins" should have been.
 
Maybe it's because I'm open-minded but McKenzie's voice in the trailer was good, still need to hear more from his Batman voice though.

And I loved the noir inspired narration in the comic so I hope they keep that for this, it'd make it stand out from the other DC animated movies.
 
Looks amazing but awful selection for the trailer music.
 
I didn't think the music was bad, but it certainly could've been better.
 
gotta say...as someone who didn't care for the comic...this looks amazing. :)

And to anyone who says a live action movie couldn't be like this....they don't know crap about stylization.
 
Any chance of getting a direct dl link?
 
I saw nothing wrong with McKenzie's voice or the music selection. :o
 
Yeah, this is the first time where I can actually feel comfortable with his performance. Though I think it has a lot to do with him saying his lines as Bruce. His Batman is what I had issues with.


As introspective as Batman is, it is my preferred delivery. I always imagined him to having a quiet and serene exterior, but his mind as being constantly on overdrive. Only speaking out loud when he needs to.

It wouldn't be very exciting to have a mute hero, so I find the noir inspired narration to be a pleasing medium.

I think it's fine in comics, but I don't like it very much in movies. Maybe just a few key times to open and close acts.
 
Still not sold on McKenzie's voice acting. The art is very nice, though.
 
Call me a hopeless devotee of the book, but I missed the orange light of the flame radiating the tenant where Batman is trapped. The brown doesn't convey the same feeling of sheer panic.
 
Trailer was amazing I am heavily anticipating this film.
 
You don't like film Noir?

Film Noir does not always have to have voiceover narration. Again, I wouldn't mind it used minimally, as perhaps a poetic interlude between acts or such. But not throughout. There are a lot of scenes in the comic with the 'thoughts' worded out that I feel can be reimagined equally well if not better in a motion format without the voiceover.

Or, just do a little of it in the first act as Wayne returns to Gotham...then a small part when the Bat crashes through the window...the leave it out entirely of the middle, and bring it in a little bit at the very end. And none for Gordon.
 
I'm gonna have to get used to McKenzie's voice. I don't think it's bad or anything, it's just different from Conroy. Can't wait till I see this, hopefully I can catch the premiere at Comic-con!
 
Film Noir does not always have to have voiceover narration.

Voice over narration is a classic element of film noir. The voice over narration should definitely be in Batman: Year One. The majority of the dialogue in Batman: Year One is through Bruce Wayne and James Gordon's narrations into their minds, their thoughts, their feelings.

There are a lot of scenes in the comic with the 'thoughts' worded out that I feel can be reimagined equally well if not better in a motion format without the voiceover.
That wouldn't be faithful to the comic and would make the film more like a standard superhero cartoon and less like a film noir.

Or, just do a little of it in the first act as Wayne returns to Gotham...then a small part when the Bat crashes through the window...the leave it out entirely of the middle, and bring it in a little bit at the very end. And none for Gordon.
That wouldn't be faithful to the comic if they left out most of Bruce Wayne's narration and all of Gordon's narration and that would leave viewers puzzled by scenes such as Gordon holding the gun in bed with his wife sleeping. Without knowing Gordon's thoughts people would get the wrong idea about this scene for example.
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Voice over narration is a classic element of film noir.
It's used...and not used..in other genres as well.

The voice over narration should definitely be in Batman: Year One. The majority of the dialogue in Batman: Year One is through Bruce Wayne and James Gordon's narrations into their minds, their thoughts, their feelings.
Minimally, I hope.

That wouldn't be faithful to the comic and would make the film more like a standard superhero cartoon and less like a film noir.

That wouldn't be faithful to the comic if they left out most of Bruce Wayne's narration and all of Gordon's narration and that would leave viewers puzzled by scenes such as Gordon holding the gun in bed with his wife sleeping. Without knowing Gordon's thoughts people would get the wrong idea about this scene for example.
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Depends on what you're looking for....if you're looking for a moving version of the comic, then perhaps. I'd rather see an adaptation and reimagining for animation. The entirety of the Batman Animated series got by just fine without a comic-like voiceover. Basically, if I wanted something like the picture you posted...I'd stick with the original comic. They can achieve that, and even more, on film/animation by cutting to a closeup of the gun, Barbara's stomach, quick stylized flashbacks of Batman, Essen, and so on with no voiceover...taking more advantage of the actual moving medium in a more uniquely poetic way than having to listen to all that stuff read over a single frame. I'd rather that an animated or live-action feel like it was made for animation/live-action. If they're going to use voiceover, I'd like it used differently than it was in the comic. Otherwise, they should have someone actually saying 'Thock!' and 'Wham!' while they're at it. :oldrazz::woot:
 
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It's used...and not used..in other genres as well.

Indeed, it is.

Minimally, I hope.
To the extent it's used in the comic, I hope.

Depends on what you're looking for....if you're looking for a moving version of the comic, then perhaps. I'd rather see an adaptation and reimagining for animation. The entirety of the Batman Animated series got by just fine without a comic-like voiceover. Basically, if I wanted something like the picture you posted...I'd stick with the original comic. They can achieve that, and even more, on film/animation by cutting to a closeup of the gun, Barbara's stomach, quick stylized flashbacks of Batman, Essen, and so on with no voiceover...taking more advantage of the actual moving medium in a more uniquely poetic way than having to listen to all that stuff read over a single frame. I'd rather that an animated or live-action feel like it was made for animation/live-action. If they're going to use voiceover, I'd like it used differently than it was in the comic. Otherwise, they should have someone actually saying 'Thock!' and 'Wham!' while they're at it. :oldrazz::woot:
Onomatopoeic sound effects are to suggest the source of the sound that it describes since there is no sound in print, not to suggest the sound of someone saying "Screechh!", "Whukk!", "Kblam!", etc. In film we, of course, can hear the intended sound effects suggested on the printed page.
There, of course, was a noir style narration by Bruce Wayne and James Gordon attached to the original comic written by Frank Miller, the film should retain that. I love the narration in Batman: Year One, which gives another dimension to the characters by letting you inside their heads. Miller delves deeply into the character’s souls and allows for an unfiltered look into their thoughts. Miller makes use of an internal monologue so the character's thoughts and feelings are counterpoint to their actions. Without Gordon's voice over the viewers wouldn't know what is going on during the scene with Gordon holding the gun in bed with his wife sleeping. People would get the wrong idea and assume that Gordon is planning on killing his wife or something. The narration is definitely needed. I love the old fashion internal monologue voice over narration on film. A trademark of film noir going back to Bogart, classic noirs, which I've always loved. Adapting the comics material into the film medium automatically does add elements that are not on the page. Voice actors, music, moving visuals, seeing it all come alive is exciting. I'm glad they didn't take the story and bastardize it. Faithfulness to the source material is showing respect to the books, the author, the illustrator, and it's entertaining to fans to get to see the comic books we love come alive on film. A film made faithfully to the source material can also renew interest in the comics. It exposes it to many people who don't read comic books, so to them it is completely fresh, thus reaching a wider audience. Let's face it, most people don't read comic books so for many, the film will be their introduction to Batman: Year One. If someone is a fan of the film they might want to buy the comic book and see it in comic book form, and some might start buying other comics, too. It can be a promotional tool for comics.
 
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While I despise Miller's work in general... he did good work with this story. Simple, short but powerful.

While I know they followed the majority of the book to the letter... I wish they had of experimented with the colour scheme to achieve an even greater effect.
 
There, of course, was a noir style narration by Bruce Wayne and James Gordon attached to the original comic written by Frank Miller, the film should retain that. I love the narration in Batman: Year One, which gives another dimension to the characters by letting you inside their heads. Miller delves deeply into the character’s souls and allows for an unfiltered look into their thoughts. Miller makes use of an internal monologue so the character's thoughts and feelings are counterpoint to their actions. Without Gordon's voice over the viewers wouldn't know what is going on during the scene with Gordon holding the gun in bed with his wife sleeping. People would get the wrong idea and assume that Gordon is planning on killing his wife or something. The narration is definitely needed. I love the old fashion internal monologue voice over narration on film. A trademark of film noir going back to Bogart, classic noirs, which I've always loved. Adapting the comics material into the film medium automatically does add elements that are not on the page. Voice actors, music, moving visuals, seeing it all come alive is exciting. I'm glad they didn't take the story and bastardize it. Faithfulness to the source material is showing respect to the books, the author, the illustrator, and it's entertaining to fans to get to see the comic books we love come alive on film.
You can show just as much 'respect' by maintaining the spirit and vibe of the story, but reimagining it for another medium. I'd rather see an animated film based on a comic book, than a moving comic book. You respect the comics by acknowledging what works uniquely in them, and doing something different in a way unique to another format.

A film made faithfully to the source material can also renew interest in the comics. It exposes it to many people who don't read comic books, so to them it is completely fresh, thus reaching a wider audience. Let's face it, most people don't read comic books so for many, the film will be their introduction to Batman: Year One. If someone is a fan of the film they might want to buy the comic book and see it in comic book form, and some might start buying other comics, too. It can be a promotional tool for comics.
I think if the film is good enough, it should attract people just as well...and wouldn't it be nice if they got the comic, and it offered something different than what they got in the film they just saw...something unique to comics?

You shouldn't make a film to simulate the experience of reading a comic book...that's what comics are for...and vice versa. Each version can do the same story in their own distinct way, benefitting both and, in turn, respecting the core story even more. I feel it would be even more respectful not to mirror the constant first-person narration, and instead incorporate what it's doing for the story functionally in a different way. Use less of it, represent it more through moving imagery and other aspects that comics can't do, and have the film be a 'companion piece' that expands what the story has to offer, instead of just mimicking it.
 
While I despise Miller's work in general... he did good work with this story. Simple, short but powerful.

While I know they followed the majority of the book to the letter... I wish they had of experimented with the colour scheme to achieve an even greater effect.

I actually liked the color approach in the Year One comic...it grew on me very quickly and gave the story a more 'realistic' feel, whilst still taking full advantage of the format.
 
Is there a YouTube link to the official trailer. If so could anyone post the link, not just the video?
Please, it would be much appreciated.
 
I haven't been able to find anything on YouTube except a couple vids recorded off someone's screen.
 

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