Batman: Year One

[EliteF50]

Holy crap, Ben totally ruined Batman's voice. Especially his "threat"...

If they wanted a young Batman, then Rino Ramano was their man. He's a fantastic young Batman.

 

[Cobblepot]

I'm sceptical. I love the artwork, but the dialoge sounds weird. These are thought bubbles not ment to be spoken...
Bat's voice is horrible.

 

[Hush]

It's not an excuse. It's clearly an intentional creative decision. Of course it's fine that it doesn't work for you, but for those of us it does work for, we aren't just saying he's supposed to sound young to "excuse" a misfire or something - he IS supposed to sound young. It's an important aspect of the story. Just like, if they were casting it for live-action, the actor would need to LOOK young, regardless of how we're used to seeing Batman look in other stories.

It's not like he sounds like a boy (or Leo DiCaprio or Andrew Garfield) or something. He's got a nice young-but-masculine voice, imo.

You took why I said the wrong way, I could have worded it better, I do not think that Bruce has ever had a real light voice. I believe it has always been heavy and deep, even as a man in his 20's. I mean when Conroy did the younger Wayne scenes he did them well and made Bruce sound similar to adult bats with out losing that inexperience in his voice. I know you like the voice and my opinion won't change yours I just think that who they cast is horrible and that even though he is young in this he doesn't need to sound as young as the actor who is playing him has made it. Like I said though I'm still buying it because I support everything DC does film/animation wise.

 

[Darkness Falls]

anyone have a link to the video ?

 

[EliteF50]

I think his voice fits well. Anyone older would seem out of place for a young batman. I know we are all used to the Kevin Conroy type of voice but I think Mckenzie's is a nice change of pace without being too off.

Not really.

Kevin's voice in Mask of the Phantasm was young, and it sounded amazing. If they wanted a young Batman, why not get Rino Romano? He was terrific as young Bruce.

 

[flickchick85]

You took why I said the wrong way, I could have worded it better, I do not think that Bruce has ever had a real light voice. I believe it has always been heavy and deep, even as a man in his 20's. I mean when Conroy did the younger Wayne scenes he did them well and made Bruce sound similar to adult bats with out losing that inexperience in his voice. I know you like the voice and my opinion won't change yours I just think that who they cast is horrible and that even though he is young in this he doesn't need to sound as young as the actor who is playing him has made it. Like I said though I'm still buying it because I support everything DC does film/animation wise.

Fair enough, I never thought Conroy sounded very young even when he was playing young Bruce, so mileage obviously varies.

 

[theMan-Bat]

anyone have a link to the video ?

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/...mated-film-sneak-peek-video-character-designs

 

[Darkness Falls]

thanks

 

[theMan-Bat]

I'm sceptical. I love the artwork, but the dialoge sounds weird. These are thought bubbles not ment to be spoken...
Bat's voice is horrible.

That's voice over narration into the thoughts of the characters. It's a classic element of Film Noir. It's in Taxi Driver, Casablanca, the original version of Blade Runner, Sin City, Million Dollar Baby, The Shawshank Redemption, etc.
The Batman voice is different, that doesn't make it horrible. Try to keep in mind that Bruce Wayne is 25 years old in Batman: Year One, learning how to use the bat-symbolism to scare people, developing the Batman voice and persona. Ben McKenzie sounds young without sounding too young. He also has low deepness, creepiness, anger and intensity in his voice, appropriate for Batman: Year One.

 

[Darkness Falls]

i think the voices are pretty good, not too sure about batman's yet, need to hear more of it

 

[Cobblepot]

That's voice over narration into the thoughts of the characters. It's a classic element of Film Noir. It's in Taxi Driver, Casablanca, the original version of Blade Runner, Sin City, Million Dollar Baby, The Shawshank Redemption, etc.
The Batman voice is different, that doesn't make it horrible. Try to keep in mind that Bruce Wayne is 25 years old in Batman: Year One, learning how to use the bat-symbolism to scare people, developing the Batman voice and persona. Ben McKenzie sounds young without sounding too young. He also has low deepness, creepiness, anger and intensity in his voice, appropriate for Batman: Year One.

But those narrations were specifically written for that purpose. Y1's narration isn't.

 

[Kane52630]

Based on the video so far, the feel makes me want to see them to do my favorite Elseworld comic Batman: Gotham Noir.

 

[KRIM]

But those narrations were specifically written for that purpose. Y1's narration isn't.

I'm not understanding. The film noir narration is exactly what Miller was replicating. The entire book is filled with a throwback to noir elements. Not to mention it's his trademark style.

 

[JBElliott]

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2011/...mated-film-sneak-peek-video-character-designs

THANK YOU!!!

That was great! I'm more excited than ever. To hear how close they're going to stay to the source material really makes me happy. I wish this course had been taken with the live action movies. Gordon is needed as a central character to show how bad Gotham is and why Wayne could only make a difference as Batman rather than as a cop and what makes it really work is how fully developed Gordon is as a character.

The voices didn't sound completely perfect (but they were all pretty good), but I'm hoping that in the movie with the animation, music and effects they'll sound better.

 

[Cobblepot]

I'm not understanding. The film noir narration is exactly what Miller was replicating. The entire book is filled with a throwback to noir elements. Not to mention it's his trademark style.

I was clear enough, but okay.
Sure Miller was using these film noir technics, but he wrote the dialogue to be read not to be spoken. That makes a huge difference, lines that look great on paper can often sound like cheese when spoken as narration.

 

[KRIM]

I was clear enough, but okay.
Sure Miller was using these film noir technics, but he wrote the dialogue to be read not to be spoken.

That's an odd way of looking at it. Through the act of reading, lines are being spoken. It's in our heads, but the words have been brought to life. So the point still stands. Miller knew exactly how his comic would be read, and considering his style, it was meant to be no different than watching a noir film on a screen. Same mechanics apply.

That makes a huge difference, lines that look great on paper can often sound like cheese when spoken as narration.

That applies to anything. Films start on the page, after all. Dialog is dialog. The medium does not alter whether it is good or bad. Execution may make it more favorable, but that is up to the actor rather than the words themselves.

 

[The Caped Knight]

If they wanted a young Batman, why not get Rino Romano? He was terrific as young Bruce.

I agree, Rino voice was prefect for a young Batman

 

[antsman41]

THANK YOU!!!

That was great! I'm more excited than ever. To hear how close they're going to stay to the source material really makes me happy. I wish this course had been taken with the live action movies. Gordon is needed as a central character to show how bad Gotham is and why Wayne could only make a difference as Batman rather than as a cop and what makes it really work is how fully developed Gordon is as a character.

The voices didn't sound completely perfect (but they were all pretty good), but I'm hoping that in the movie with the animation, music and effects they'll sound better.

Oldman as Gordon is straight out of Year One.

 

[KRIM]

I would attribute Oldman more to Loeb's Gordon more than Miller's. The latter was tougher and looked like he could physically handle himself. Not to mention he was conflicted with a whole host of issues. Oldman is the everyman who's just trying to do right in a world full of wrong.

 

[JBElliott]

Oldman as Gordon is straight out of Year One.

Other than being a Lt. rather than Comm., BB Gordon had little in common with Y1 Gordon. Y1 Gordon was a complete character, BB Gordon was pretty much two dimensional with little or no back story or character development.

 

[Drz]

 

[FCEEVIPER]

I like it.

 

[antsman41]

This is such a good mix between;

Year One, BTAS, and TNBA.

 

[TDK Joker]

This is such a good mix between;

Year One, BTAS, and TNBA.

That is the absolute perfect way to describe that!

 

[theMan-Bat]

That's the Batman: Year One Maquette DC Direct is releasing on September 21st for $125.00.
http://www.dccomics.com/dcdirect/?dcd=20198&lst=new&cat=JUST+ANNOUNCED

There's also the Batman: Black and White statue based on David Mazzucchelli's Batman: Year One art that was released on September 2nd, 2009 for $80.00.
http://www.dccomics.com/dcdirect/?dcd=11580