Well I agree and disagree with you on different things. On the doc ock thing I agree with you if you mean that spidey should knock him fast. and he doesn't? Well doc ock in the first place is not really even that dangerous(he shoudn't be) if we see things from a realistic point of view. Because he shoudn't even be a match for spidey since he really doesn't have super powers of any kind.
His tentacles are the only thing that can hurt spidey, but ock himself isn't super strong or anything like that,. But to make him a strong adversary for spidey they ignore the fact that he's as vulnerable as any human being and make him look as if the mechanical arms bonding provided him with super hard skin and super strong bones. Spidey hits him and he just bounces back up. I would understand this if he was the goblin because he has powers (superstrenth,agility) given to the effect of the serum, so his whole body is very strong and resistant, but doc ock only has the tentacles. But you know if they would make it completely realistic then doc ock wouldn't have even lasted the first fight.
Anyway you said venom wasn't that strong in the comics? okay in what issue was that, I mean don't take me wrong but as far as i know he has been spidey's greatest physical adversary, given his powers and his hate for spidey. I mean he's the villain that spidey has never really defeated in a fight.
spiderman always has to rely on his witt to best him, he always outsmarts venom one way or the other. Never has spidey bested venom in hand to hand combat.Yes he has put on a good fight several times but he has never defeated venom.
I want the same in the movie, I want venom to defeat spidey in physical combat as it should be. However i want spidey to put up the fight of his life and kick venom's ass at least once during the battle royale.
I want spidey flipping and leaping towards venom and kicking him in the face and venoms head bouncing backwards with the impact. That would be great, a crowd pleasing moment.