misslane38
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I think you're projecting and assuming far too much. Just because the film thoroughly and explicitly explores the issue of collateral damage, as opposed to something more subtle, doesn't mean that it was explored reluctantly or begrudgingly. Snyder has expressed a genuine interest in both not sanitizing violence and in exploring consequences of violence in interviews:
"I wanted the movie to have a mythological feeling. In ancient mythology, mass deaths are used to symbolize disasters. In other countries like Greece and Japan, myths were recounted through the generations, partly to answer unanswerable questions about death and violence. In America, we don’t have that legacy of ancient mythology. Superman (who first appeared in ‘Action Comics’ in 1938) is probably the closest we get. It’s a way of recounting the myth."
"There are other superhero movies where they joke about how basically no one’s getting hurt,” Snyder says. “That’s not us. What is that message? That’s it’s okay that there’s this massive destruction with zero consequence for anyone? That’s what Watchmen was about in a lot of ways too. There was a scene, that scene where Dan and Laurie get mugged. They beat up the criminals. I was like the first guy, I want to show his arm get broken. I want a compound fracture. I don’t want it to be clean. I want you to go, ‘Oh my God, I guess you’re right. If you just beat up a guy in an alley he’s not going to just be lying on the ground. It’s going to be messy."
"It's important that these movies have consequences, that there is collateral damage. In Batman v Superman I wanted to show how Bruce Wayne feels when reduced to a sideline sitter. Batman is frightened by his impotence in the face of that."
Snyder wanted to tell these stories in the way that he did, and he didn't do so with any sort of grudge or resentment. He has shown a thoughtful and sincere interest in the issue of damage and consequences and how they can be used to tell the truth about violence as well as develop characters by showing the reactions they have and the lessons they learn as a result of it."There are other superhero movies where they joke about how basically no one’s getting hurt,” Snyder says. “That’s not us. What is that message? That’s it’s okay that there’s this massive destruction with zero consequence for anyone? That’s what Watchmen was about in a lot of ways too. There was a scene, that scene where Dan and Laurie get mugged. They beat up the criminals. I was like the first guy, I want to show his arm get broken. I want a compound fracture. I don’t want it to be clean. I want you to go, ‘Oh my God, I guess you’re right. If you just beat up a guy in an alley he’s not going to just be lying on the ground. It’s going to be messy."
"It's important that these movies have consequences, that there is collateral damage. In Batman v Superman I wanted to show how Bruce Wayne feels when reduced to a sideline sitter. Batman is frightened by his impotence in the face of that."
Okay.
Given the teases we've gotten about Batman in the film still on his journey of redemption as well as BvS not shying away from having characters call Batman out, I believe that Gordon will bring up the matter, and not in a joking way.
