Ben Affleck To Team With DC’s Geoff Johns On Standalone ‘Batman’ Film - Part 5

[Micromind]

My understanding is that he is only contractually obligated for one more film, which means if he stars in The Batman, then he doesn't have to appear in JL2. With the exception of a brief cameo in SS (and maybe WW), he essentially has a three film contract. For an expanding DCEU where they will (presumably) want to make more JL and Batman films, that seems pretty insufficient. And now here we are.

Marvel locked their main cast up for at least six films each, presumably for three solo films and three Avengers films. While you don't have to exercise all six films, you at least have that option, and the actor at least knows that they are contracted to do up to that many films. Gives you more flexibility and alleviates the stress of having to recast a major role right in the thick of things.

Everything does not have to be 'locked up' in order to happen, who knows if WB had decided to use a contract for 6 movies as Marvel Studios do, Ben might not have agreed at all (and we would have got someone like Josh Brolin as Batman, lol).

Now, if Matt Reeve directed Bat solo movie gets critical and financial success, Ben would want to continue for few more Bat-solo movies.

Similarly, if Snyder's JL movie gets critical and financial success (it's possible ), Affleck may decide to appear as Batman in Justice League ensemble movies.

 

[-JKR-]

Exactly. Just because they didn't lock the actors up for more than a decade doesn't mean that they won't do it.
Look at how many movies Hugh Jackman played Wolverine in, and he signed on at a film by film basis, without being locked up for a multi-picture deal.
I've said it before, some stuff works for Marvel Studios, but not there's no need for other major studios to copy how they handle some stuff. Let some things be Marvel Studios' schtick. I'm all for variety, and for different studios to have different methods when handling their properties.
These boards have gotten pretty repetitie ever since the main argument for every movie is "Marvel Studios do it like that / it's not like the Marvel Studios movies / they should do it like Marvel Studios does / give the rights back to Marvel Studios."
I miss the old day on the boards when we could discuss these movies individually, with more interesting arguments about filmmaking and storytelling.

 

[Boom]

And people don't need to get upset or worked up every time Marvel is brought up in conversation.

Yes, actors can renegotiate for additional films. Hugh Jackman being the obvious example. And even RDJ had renegotiated his contract to appear in more Marvel films beyond his first contract. All I'm saying is a six-film contract simplifies this process a great deal, and ensures that an actor can't just up and leave during an extended franchise. That's all.

Affleck could very well decide to do more films, and this all becomes moot. Or he could up and leave any day now, and we're stuck recasting Batman after one Justice League film. Going off of what we've heard recently, it sounds more and more likely that it's the latter. We shall see.

 

[dhandler01]

I think most around here are assuming facts not in evidence.

 

[-JKR-]

And people don't need to get upset or worked up every time Marvel is brought up in conversation.

Yes, actors can renegotiate for additional films. Hugh Jackman being the obvious example. And even RDJ had renegotiated his contract to appear in more Marvel films beyond his first contract. All I'm saying is a six-film contract simplifies this process a great deal, and ensures that an actor can't just up and leave during an extended franchise. That's all.

Affleck could very well decide to do more films, and this all becomes moot. Or he could up and leave any day now, and we're stuck recasting Batman after one Justice League film. Going off of what we've heard recently, it sounds more and more likely that it's the latter. We shall see.

It kills any possibility of an interesting conversation, because instead of talking about specifics it all just leads to "like Marvel" or "but Marvel does...".

 

[metaphysician]

Me too. It doesn't guarantee it'll be great but at least it can avoid being like BvS & SS if there's more time/thought put into it.

And more generally, getting The Batman out of panicked rush mode can't help but improve its odds. IMO, half the problems WB has arise from setting an unrealistic schedule that gives them no room to adjust or recover from mistakes. Waiting until after Justice League before starting serious production for The Batman helps break that cycle.

 

[metaphysician]

Would you honestly want someone around who's heart isn't in it?

True, though note that Marvel Studios has pretty much sworn off such, themselves. Portman certainly has more movies on her contract, which are not going to be called in.

The problem is, even if WB wanted to do this, I doubt they could get a contract for that many movies out of someone as big name as Ben Affleck. Three movies with the option for more was likely the best they could do, and that was to play a role Affleck eagerly wished to do ( at the time, at least ).

Hmm, does anybody know how many movies Gal Gadot is on contract for? *She*, I could buy being new and small enough for WB to get a 6-9 movie contract.

 

[mclay18]

Hmm, does anybody know how many movies Gal Gadot is on contract for? *She*, I could buy being new and small enough for WB to get a 6-9 movie contract.

She signed a three-picture deal when she secured her deal for BvS, which includes WW and JL. She seems to have a blast playing the role, and I wouldn't be surprised if WB renegotiates her contract for extra films if WW is a runaway hit.

 

[TheVileOne]

[/B]

AGAIN, dude?

If the shoe fits.

 

[Drseuss]

If all actors quit after shooting 3 pictures, DCU will end after JL.

Contract isnt everything.

 

[Drseuss]

Exactly. Just because they didn't lock the actors up for more than a decade doesn't mean that they won't do it.
Look at how many movies Hugh Jackman played Wolverine in, and he signed on at a film by film basis, without being locked up for a multi-picture deal.
I've said it before, some stuff works for Marvel Studios, but not there's no need for other major studios to copy how they handle some stuff. Let some things be Marvel Studios' schtick. I'm all for variety, and for different studios to have different methods when handling their properties.
These boards have gotten pretty repetitie ever since the main argument for every movie is "Marvel Studios do it like that / it's not like the Marvel Studios movies / they should do it like Marvel Studios does / give the rights back to Marvel Studios."
I miss the old day on the boards when we could discuss these movies individually, with more interesting arguments about filmmaking and storytelling.

Yup. Getting tired of ppl blindly following suit than looking at circumstances.

If Ben isn't mentally well, signing 9 pictures with the studio aka Sam Jackson's way is equally worthless.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

In interview, in response to playing Deathstroke in Batman

Says, "maybe, we'll see"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ml...-in-new-‘smurfs’-movie/vp-BByhuj4

Around 5:40 in video

 

[GothamBat]

I feel like I'm the only one who never really wanted deathstroke as the villain in the first batman solo movie

 

[Slade W]

I feel like I'm the only one who never really wanted deathstroke as the villain in the first batman solo movie

I doubt this. He isn't a Batman villain. I am sure most people would have preferred someone else. Batman has lots of villains that are better known and who are more strongly associated with him than Deathstroke.

 

[matt47]

Yeah I didn't really want him as the main villain. I'd be excited to see them fight in the opening scene or something like that.

 

[Boom]

Start over with The Batman, including a new villain. Then use Deathstroke for the Nightwing movie. Everybody wins.

 

[Micromind]

Use Cyborg movie to introduce Titans, get Deathstroke as villain in it.

 

[Slade W]

Use Cyborg movie to introduce Titans, get Deathstroke as villain in it.

If Deathstroke is going to be used as a villain going up against one of the Titans, instead of the whole team, Nightwing would make much more sense than Cyborg IMO, given their interactions and history in the comics and cartoon. In the type of movie you are describing, Cyborg would be the main character and would then have the most interactions with the villain. In such a movie, I think a different villain should be used.

 

[metaphysician]

I doubt this. He isn't a Batman villain. I am sure most people would have preferred someone else. Batman has lots of villains that are better known and who are more strongly associated with him than Deathstroke.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: if they want to use a dark mirror superpowered Evil Batman? Use Bane. He's an actual Batman villain, with actual thematic resonance, and actual Bat comic plots to draw from. The only virtue Deathstroke brings is "cool fight scenes", and there's no reason you can't do good fight scenes with any number of other villains.

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah I didn't really want him as the main villain. I'd be excited to see them fight in the opening scene or something like that.

I could see him being used as a supporting villain in a Justice League movie, where the villain is "the Injustice Society" or some similar villain teamup. His niche would be "the smart mercenary, who is in it for the money and has some scruples and common sense".

Which is to say, he's the one that eventually betrays the villain team when the plan shifts from "profitable opportunity to test myself against superheroes while being paid by the obsessive crazies" to "insane plan involving some incomprehensible world threatening nonsense".

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Start over with The Batman, including a new villain. Then use Deathstroke for the Nightwing movie. Everybody wins.

this really is the best course of action

Still sticking to my Red Hood theory. The character has a lot of untapped potential similar to Harley. It also gives WB a chance to include batfamily characters as well as The Joker, hopefully just not the exact one we saw in Su sigh skwaaaaa

 

[Slade W]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: if they want to use a dark mirror superpowered Evil Batman? Use Bane. He's an actual Batman villain, with actual thematic resonance, and actual Bat comic plots to draw from. The only virtue Deathstroke brings is "cool fight scenes", and there's no reason you can't do good fight scenes with any number of other villains.

I agree. Bane has better stuff in the comics with Batman than Deathstroke does to draw from. He isn't incompatible with Batman though. If all they can do with him is cool fight scenes, without there being much of a feud or story between them, then they just are not very creative. If that is all they are doing to use him for then he should have been saved for the Titans or Nightwing.

 

[2kt09]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: if they want to use a dark mirror superpowered Evil Batman? Use Bane.

Or Hush.
Or Anarky.
Or Black Mask.
Or Owlman.
Or Prometheus.
Or Heretic.
Or Anti-Batman.
Or Batzarro.
Or Bizarro-Batman.

 

[Boom]

Penguin
Riddler
Hugo Strange and the Monster Men

Any of those please.

 

[The Batman]

^ I concur. If there's three characters that should've been in TDKT, they should've been Riddler and Penguin, along with Dick Grayson.

Hugo deserves to be in a film.