Best action sequence in any comic book adaptation!!!!

[Eggyman]

It is. But what's really going to bake your noodle later is that they set in on fire so he WOULD take it off. The powah of le cinema.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I accepted that years ago. Although I would like to see a masked hero go his ENTIRE film series without once unmasking in public/in front of his enemies, or having his mask ruined in the final action sequence. So far this hasn't happened.
No, not Batman, either.

 

[Eggyman]

Dammit, I was gonna say Batman!

I was going to say that he takes his mask off more in each subsequent film in the Spidey franchise... but that isn't entirely accurate. He takes it off most in Spidey 2, I believe, but I can forgive myself the small lapse in judgement because in the third instalment he decides to not wear a suit for half the movie and dance instead.

Less mask time in each film if you include his wolly hat from the first one.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I accepted that years ago. Although I would like to see a masked hero go his ENTIRE film series without once unmasking in public/in front of his enemies, or having his mask ruined in the final action sequence. So far this hasn't happened.
No, not Batman, either.

It is a bit ridiculous how frequently this happens, the sooner it stops the better IMO.

 

[November Rain]

I think that scene they had in spidey one where spidey was grogged and speaking to goblin on the rooftop put them off.

it came off a lil too power ranger esque. Saying that, i've seen more emotion from power rangers. spidey is a highly animated character, they don't do nearly as much with him as they could and then have to resort to removing his mask to make up for it.

if you could just get spidey a mask that moved like a jaw when he talked, he wouldn't have to take it off all the time to emote.

 

[CFE]

Well to be fair, cowl damage has yet to happen to the 'Nolanverse' Batman...and now that I think about it, it didn't happen in the Schumacher films either. But Burton insisted on tearing those things up.

 

[MissionBond92]

I accepted that years ago. Although I would like to see a masked hero go his ENTIRE film series without once unmasking in public/in front of his enemies, or having his mask ruined in the final action sequence. So far this hasn't happened.
No, not Batman, either.

That's just plain stupid. That would be a horrible movie if it just had a hero attacking stuff, no other idenity or anything

 

[MissionBond92]

The Batpod/truck scene in TDK and also the scene where Joker kills the black mobster guy, the way he gets up was so cool

 

[Chris Wallace]

That's just plain stupid. That would be a horrible movie if it just had a hero attacking stuff, no other idenity or anything

Noone's saying that at all. I said I don't want him unmasked in public, nor in the presence of his enemies! That is what I said.

 

[Chris Wallace]

The Batpod/truck scene in TDK and also the scene where Joker kills the black mobster guy, the way he gets up was so cool

Gambol's death scene was too ambiguous for my tastes.

 

[SenseiofCheese]

Gambol's death scene was too ambiguous for my tastes.

I've watched the film many times and I'm still never quite sure what the hell happens there.

 

[Obi-Ron]

I accepted that years ago. Although I would like to see a masked hero go his ENTIRE film series without once unmasking in public/in front of his enemies, or having his mask ruined in the final action sequence. So far this hasn't happened.
No, not Batman, either.

I submit Hugo Weaving's non-appearance in V for Vendetta. He was the von Doom we should have gotten in Fantastic Four.

 

[November Rain]

yeah considering V had no facial expressions what so ever, he carried that film in an amazing light.

the person who played V's body is a real amazing actor, able to emote via body language.

it's like silient film actors, we've taken the art of verbal and facial communication for granted.

 

[WeaponXProject]

Agreed. Batman is supposed to be one of the best un-armed combatants in comics, yet that's the one aspect of the character Nolan completely skimps on.

I agree completely, the way Nolan uses Bale in fight scenes is terrible. As athletic as someone like Christian Bale is you would think he would have fight scenes as good or better than Burton's were.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that's what I think is missing from these Nolan films. None of the fights so far have that epic feel to them. I wanna see Batman throwing down on a rain swept Gotham rooftop or something, with a villain who can match him physically. Not just throwaway goons. We got a little taster in B.B against Ra's on the train, but Batman and Jokers final fight in TDK wasn't that brilliant. It was more just Joker smashing the **** out of him. I wanna see Batman take on someone who can match his martial arts skills, someone like Deathstroke

 

[huskerwebhead]

The ock fights and the whole of spidey 2 accurately showcases that most fans aren't really fans and are happy to lap up what's infront of them regardless of what is shown.

I've seen hulk comic fans happy even though the entire film is based off a highly inaccurate tv series

I've seen spidey fans deeply enraged about organics but happy to have spidey's powers turn on and off powered by mj's love.

I've seen ock fans delighted even though ock was controlled by the tentacles, he got ordered around by harry and got jumped and heavily beaten by spidey in every encounter, unable to defeat him on his own merit and having to use a speeding train to weaken him.

i've seen batman fans who watch the dark knight, a film very much different from all comic sources of any of the main characters but a good story nonetheless, who are happy to throw away 90% shred of the comic idols persona for a good film.


so for me, a fan's opinion does not hold much water when the dust settles, we ultimately take what we're given and the studios still make money.

abomination and the hulk could have been kissing behind a bus stop and you'd still get people saying it was the greatest fight of all time.

Dear Lord. I'm getting real bored with all the Comic Book Purists. God forbid I simply enjoy a fight scene because...well, it entertains me. If I don't go stomping out of the theater with my fist in the air cursing the film makers then gee...I must not be a true fan of the character. Give me a ****ing break!

 

[weezerspider]

Yea that's what I think is missing from these Nolan films. None of the fights so far have that epic feel to them. I wanna see Batman throwing down on a rain swept Gotham rooftop or something, with a villain who can match him physically. Not just throwaway goons. We got a little taster in B.B against Ra's on the train, but Batman and Jokers final fight in TDK wasn't that brilliant. It was more just Joker smashing the **** out of him. I wanna see Batman take on someone who can match his martial arts skills, someone like Deathstroke

I agree that we need an epic fight between Batman and a villain in a Nolan film, BUT I think the overall last battle in TDK with the hostages, SWAT, Dogs, Batman and Joker was awesome.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

The Dinner Scene and Hotel Shootout of P:WZ should definitely be mentioned. Its one of the few action scenes that completely gets a Marvel character right even if the rest of the movie didnt get the universe right.

 

[jimbo 007]

I don't know if it's my favorite but I really liked the final shoot-out from the '04 The Punisher. I know alot of people complain that it wasn't violent enough but to me that scene was really well done. I'm no expert but it had a good sense of realism in terms of how a highly trained soldier would take out a bunch of armed mob goons. His movement was very clean and percise. You could tell that Tom Jane and put alot of time into training for it and the people that taught him made sure he got it down.

I also think the club scene from The Crow is worth mentioning. It was very brutal yet well planned out.

 

[November Rain]

Dear Lord. I'm getting real bored with all the Comic Book Purists. God forbid I simply enjoy a fight scene because...well, it entertains me. If I don't go stomping out of the theater with my fist in the air cursing the film makers then gee...I must not be a true fan of the character. Give me a ****ing break!

Right.....

so we'll see where you sit when captain america single handedly puts down the hulk after getting a barrage of hits to the face in the avenger's movie




The idea of taking away humanising elements from characters for entertainment is just lazy writing. Yeah fine you are entertained now but they settled when they could have pushed the boat out and given you something truly remarkable.

spiderman 2 is the greatest example of settling in a superhero film. It's so half baked, it hurts.

it's great knowing you're happy with a bronze medal performance when you think bronze is really gold. naiivity must be bliss.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Right.....

so we'll see where you sit when captain america single handedly puts down the hulk after getting a barrage of hits to the face in the avenger's movie




The idea of taking away humanising elements from characters for entertainment is just lazy writing. Yeah fine you are entertained now but they settled when they could have pushed the boat out and given you something truly remarkable.

spiderman 2 is the greatest example of settling in a superhero film. It's so half baked, it hurts.

it's great knowing you're happy with a bronze medal performance when you think bronze is really gold. naiivity must be bliss.

Yes, cause that's what I'm saying. [/sarcasm] At no point in my post did I say that I thought the fight was an accurate portrayal from the comics, just that the fact that I enjoyed the fight doesn't mean I'm not a fan. That's simply ridiculous. I would love for the fight to have gone down as you suggest, and I would LOVE even more if Spidey actually threw out a few qips here and there like in the comics. It doesn't mean that the fight wasn't entertaining for me to watch and in a general sense...well done. Was it accurate per the Spidey comics...not entirely. Do I give it the "best, most accurate fight" Gold medal....No. Did I enjoy seeing Spidey flipping around fighting with Ock...you bet! Doesn't mean I don't think the fight could have been done better...but I can enjoy it for what it is.

Nothing is ever going to be a perfect transfer from comic book to big screen. And I really see no point in whining about every little divergence from the source material...especially petty stuff like this.

 

[OsGom]

Right.....

so we'll see where you sit when captain america single handedly puts down the hulk after getting a barrage of hits to the face in the avenger's movie




The idea of taking away humanising elements from characters for entertainment is just lazy writing. Yeah fine you are entertained now but they settled when they could have pushed the boat out and given you something truly remarkable.

spiderman 2 is the greatest example of settling in a superhero film. It's so half baked, it hurts.

it's great knowing you're happy with a bronze medal performance when you think bronze is really gold. naiivity must be bliss.

November Rain, you seem to be confused. You rip on SM2 for straying from the comic, specifically SM issue 3 (which is a very basic representation of Doc Ock). Railing about the unrealism. Then you talk about how the filmmakers take away the humanizing elements.

Comic writers added depth to characters like Dr. Octopus, Sandman and other characters later but in the golden age these characters were about as one dimensional as they get.

I submit to you that humanizing the characters and especially the villains is what Raimi did right. If we stuck to your formula of comicbook nazi purity we would have an hour and a half of SM battling a egomaniac Dr. Octopus who is evil for the sake of being evil. Character development would consist of SM whining about being a failure. The filmmakers brought realism to unrealistic characters.

Don't look down your nose at fans who have the imagination to except that Raimi was trying to adapt some of the better elements of the comics into a semirealistic adaptation and the challenges inherent in that task.

I just find ironic that a "true fan" of a work of fantasy as yourself is so rigid in his/her interpretation as to not accept an alternate vision of this beloved character.

Talk about naive!

 

[david icke]

I agree completely, the way Nolan uses Bale in fight scenes is terrible. As athletic as someone like Christian Bale is you would think he would have fight scenes as good or better than Burton's were.

They could be better but I'd say they were better than Burtons. The 2nd fight sequence between Batman and the circus gang is pretty awful, the way he awkardly spins around and such. The fights in the alley in Batman 89 were better but they basically had BM standing in the one place for the most part.
In comparison I really liked the scene with BM ploughing through the nightclub goons to get to Maroni in TDK, also the scene capturing Lau and the Scarecrow car park sequence, they were a lot better than the fights in BB, although I really do enjoy the way BM is used coming out of the shadows in that one, something they didn't really do in TDK.

best for me is probably

1. Spidey vs Ock on the train
2. Wolverine 'Get out of my bar freak' - short but the perfect W scene
3. Batman on the docks in BB
4. The whole train station sequence in X-Men
5. Bat-pod, Joker van chase scene
6. Wolverine vs Military in X2
7. Superman vs Non, Ursa and Zod
8. Spidey and Harry vs Venom and Sandman
9. Tumbler chase scene in BB
10. Spider-man vs Sandman bank heist

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I disagree, making Ock and Sandman personally tied to Parker and sympathetic villains was a very bad mistake on Raimi's part IMO. Raimi seems to have this thing stuck in his head. "Let's make all of the villains tied to Peter Parker!! And let's make them all easy to sympathize with!". He is taking liberties and changing characters that have been loved for years and years just the way they were. Doc Ock shouldn't be easy to sympathize with, he is one of the most evil men in the whole M.U.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

My favourite fight in all the Spidey films was the first fight with Harry. The build up, the score and the action was just brilliant. The bit where Harry throws him through the glass and he tries to catch the wedding ring was just pure Spiderman.