Best Blade movie and would you want a Blade 4??????

Best Blade movie?

  • Blade

  • Blade II

  • Blade Trinity


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"Lethal Weapon 4 wasn't much of a profitable venture..."

actually it was, it made a lot of money from dvd sales,rentals and foreign money,
 
i suppose you're saying the same thing about the Punisher.
it made big money from dvd rentals,sales etc

even though it didnt make much from theaters

blade trinity made much more in theaters, yet that means there wont be a sequel?

bollocks

where there is money, there is always a sequel
 
Yeah, but Punisher didn't cost like 125-150M to make.

That's hardly a fair comparison.
 
blade trinity made much more in theaters, yet that means there wont be a sequel?

bollocks

where there is money, there is always a sequel

Well, the thing is, with Punisher, there's hope it'll go UP.

Blade Trinity went DOWN and ended up making, what, about 60-65% of Blade II's gross?
 
Why the hell does everyone say that all movies have to be a bloody trilogy???

im sick of people who say this

the 1st and 2nd Blade movies were superb, the 3rd was ****e.

Overall, despite the crapness of the movie, the movie still made a hefty profit, if you include the dvd sales,rentals and theater money. True, the movie didnt do well domestically at the theaters, but as of now its made a hefty profit. Where there is profit to be made, the sequel is always ready to be made.

As for saying Snipes won't go back. YES he will, just as long as he is not ripped off or mislead into making a movie in which he has less screentime than 2 ****ty side acts called biel and reynolds. Oh, and while they are it, just make sure Goyer doesnt come back. He totally lost the plot for Trinity and his Blade Series sucked ass.

Just let Snipes take over duties with his production company, get his proper martial arts choreographer back on the set like for the first two movies, and we can have a proper kick ass movie.


Domestic: $52,411,906 40.7%+ Foreign: $76,493,460 59.3%= Worldwide: $128,905,366
Production Budget: $65 million


Lethal Weapon went to a 4th movie. So why can't Blade ? In fact, whats to stop them making a 4th,5th and 6th ? They can film 2 of them back to back to save on budget costs, and finally bring us Morbius and everything on screen.

Del Toro made Blade 2 on a relatively small budget. And they can do it again. All they need is a proper director like Del Toro or someone who knows how to make proper action. Not crap like Blade Trinity.

As for those saying "whats the need for a blade 4", or "no".

YES we do need one. Goyer's pathetic attempt at directing was a disgrace to movie making and made Michael Jackson's Moonwalker look like a oscar masterpiece in comparison.

Goyer is just a hack now, well past his best.

He should go back to his real talent, making scripts for movies like his "classic" kickboxer 2.

LOL

I agree, i think a Blade 4 is even NEEDED just to give the character the send-off he deserved. BUT Wesley's Tax troubles are what may stop it happening.
 
I agree, i think a Blade 4 is even NEEDED just to give the character the send-off he deserved. BUT Wesley's Tax troubles are what may stop it happening.

Blade 3 indeed was a rather sad excuse of a last installment. Still, the action was better than X3. :D

Wesley's Tax troubles?????? Care to drop a line on that?
 
i enjoyed all 3, yes even the third, there is no arguing that it is an inferior film to the first two but it was still enjoyable

would i want a 4th, there are many things to factor in but i'll have to say yes mainly cause it seems to be the only was to get the character of moribus on the big screen
 
Hey, preaching to the choir, man.



:wow: :wow: :wow:

Snipes came back to the usa with his attorney and told the worlds news he would be fighting them in court,

didnt you see it?

Snipes looked cool, he had a grey goatee, looked like a old blade!

he was allowed to go back and film his movie "Gallowwalker", a movie about dead people coming back and plenty of gore and horror,

sounds like a good movie!

Snipes would do Blade 4 at the drop of a hat if he gets the chance, no doubt about it,

his only problem is New line and Goyer who tried to screw him last time

He deserved better, Snipes is a great actor, who unfortunately seems to be only doing direct to dvd movies to make easy quick money.

Judging from the amount of films he has been churning out recently in the last 2 years.
 
I voted for Blade 2 as the best, and reluctantly, I'm gonna have to say no to a fourth film. Blade Trinity just did a lot of dumb s**t, the series ended just as quickly as it began, and Snipes has serious legal troubles to reconcile.

Honestly, I'd consider the first two films to be on the same level, but the second film really stepped things up in a lot of areas, just in the scope and the tone. It's a very different film to the first, but still feels familiar. Blade has a little more style about him in his look and the way he fights. I love how Snipes broke it down in the DVD commentary, explaining how every fight in the film was different, and he was right. The swordfight with Nyssa being more of a means of them testing each other, while other fights like the final fight with Nomak are just sheer ferocity. There was a lot of emotion in that fight, and the sense that Blade may have actually met his match. They really showed him getting his ass BEAT. It was a nice change of pace.

Storywise, you get to see a little more of the vampire nation, and the whole gothic/old world feel to everything. It was a nice contrast to the first film, that was very industrial and new age. And the reapers? I think where people complain vampire movies depict vampires too much as cool hip and young, Blade II reminded us that vampires can be vicious creatures. Del Toro really brought a great visual aspect to the film and to hear him explain the reapers from a biological standpoint, it made a lot of sense. It carried over the scientific aspects from the first film while doing something new, especially the reaper autopsy.

The great thing about the first film, though, as I've always said in speaking about Blade, it was cool to see a black superhero and not be beaten over the head with the fact that he was black. Furthermore, you had a black female companion in the mix that was just a strong character on her own. As much as she needed Blade's help, Blade needed her help. Karen Jensen was just an intelligent woman and able to hold her own.

Like Del Toro, Norrington was a great visual director for blade. THe look of the film is very sleek and self-aware. There's enough reality to it to draw you in, but it transitions very well into the more "out there" settings. This is most apparent in Blade and Karen's tracking of Krieger, as they go from the street, to the Japanese night club, to the archives, and the bible room where you've got all these large hanging scrolls in glass. Then the fight scene follows and everything just pops visual. The production design of both films is just stunning. They both managed to do great things with their budgets.

The problem with Blade Trinity is that Goyer isn't that great when it comes to visual concepts. I remember watching the special features for the first Blade, and seeing conceptual where that Norrington just splicing photos in Photoshop. He even did a photomanipulation of how he wanted Blade to look using a phot of Wesley from another movie. Del Toro did a lot of conceptual sketches for Blade two, things like weapons, the look of the reapers, and especially the ninja suits Nyssa and Assad wore when the break into Blade's headquarters. Goyer simply doesn't have that kind of visual flair. Blade's look in Trinity is horrible. The signature hairstyle looks terrible and doesn't even mesh with his real hair the way the others did. The goatee was okay, but the bad hairstyle messes it up. The outfit was just clunky and uninspired. Blade II saw Blade actually try to be somewhat stylish. The coat had a better flow to it, and vest was just perfect. Why couldn't the costume from Blade II come back? I guess a lot of the people who worked on Blade II were too busy with Guillermo Del Toro on Hellboy, because the only crew member who came back from Trinity was the Director of Photography, he even has a bit part in the movie!

Then there's the casting of Blade Trinity, which I think someone else commented on. It's terrible. I'm usually the first to say, let's give people a chance to do something different, but this isn't one of those times. If I were Blade, I'd be worried about The Nightstalkers watching my back too! Granted, Reynolds and Biel definitely put in the work to at least look like they could kick people's asses. But damn! Patton Oswald? Natasha Lyonne as a BLIND geneticist? This was a big tick in my foot, because it just goes to show how clueless Goyer was in constructing this film. WHERE'S KAREN JENSEN?!?!? Even if you had to recast her, the character would have fit right into the whole plot of Daystar. Why create a new character for this purpose, and furthermore make her blind for no justifiable reason? The girl looks laughably out of the place the whole film, to say nothing of the fact that when the time comes for her character to die and let out a final scream, Lyonne can't even do it! Her voice was so jacked from smoking, they had to have someone else do it!

Villains? What villains? Drake never shows any signs of being a formidable enemy. First time he meets Blade and the Nightstalkers, he runs off like a ***** and hides behind a baby. Nomak at least TRIED to take on Blade the first time they met. Drake spends most of the film pontificating about a whole heap of nothing. Unlike the first two films, there's no real urgency. Drake doesn't have any real plans that will immediately affect the world, and all Danika and her minions are doing is milking homeless people for blood. It was nice to see, because I know they wanted to show it in the first film, but other than that, nothing major was really going on.

Goyer had a perfect story point with the authorities and the media going after Blade, and he wastes it. From the time the Nightstalkers break him out, he's walking out with them in BROAD DAYLIGHT! Nothing was more groan-inducing than seeing the slo-mo walking scene building up to them going to Vance's office! All manner of weapons just dangling off their bodies in plain sight! And then, for whatever reason, the feds miraculously show up at Danica's building after the final fight with Drake.

The whole film was just a mess of missed opportunities and A LOT of forced humor. Hannibal Kings humor doesn't really hit its stride for me until the vampires capture him, and are questioning him about the NIghtstalkers' weapon for killing all the vampires. From then on, it's just hit after hit. The whole hairdo comment, as well as the stuff about the tracking beacon.

"It's in my left ass cheek."

SLAP!

"Okay, it's in my right ass cheek."

SLAP!

"Look, seriously, it's somewhere in the meat of my butt, right below the Hello Kitty tattoo!"
 
Blade II for me, then Blade I. I can watch Blade II over and over again due to the nice visual style Del Toro brought to the film that it doesn't look dated. Blade I hasn't really dated well to me especially at the end with the CGI effects. B: Trinity is trash as most as you guys said. The first 15 minutes was solid with Blade then goes downhill as soon has he gets captured.

I wouldn't mind a Blade 4 if its done right, Just used Goyer for the first draft of the script, then have re-writes from there with somebody else. Bring Del Toro back and Jeff Ward Back stunt coordinator.
 
Snipes came back to the usa with his attorney and told the worlds news he would be fighting them in court,

didnt you see it?

Snipes looked cool, he had a grey goatee, looked like a old blade!

he was allowed to go back and film his movie "Gallowwalker", a movie about dead people coming back and plenty of gore and horror,

sounds like a good movie!

Snipes would do Blade 4 at the drop of a hat if he gets the chance, no doubt about it,

his only problem is New line and Goyer who tried to screw him last time

He deserved better, Snipes is a great actor, who unfortunately seems to be only doing direct to dvd movies to make easy quick money.

Judging from the amount of films he has been churning out recently in the last 2 years.

Obviously dark,ur a huge blade fan,and the series can do no wrong. Sorry,blade 3 was bad. Ya,it made money,due to the fact blade 1 and 2 were good. Ppl go see another cause the first 2 were good,so they figure the 3rd will be good.
Far as Snipes, hes not a 'Great' actor, hes an okay actor,basically in the same category as:stallone,arnorld,jean claude van-dam,etc..Hes an action actor,bout it. I recall reading a article or interview with Snipes along time ago,saying he don't care if his movies do well,long as he's getting paid..Thats fine,thats his MO to get paid. Look at whats hes doing now,hes buddying up with chuck with infomercials,lol...
I'd see nother blade if it came out despite the dismal performance of 3,just like the series enough to see another..
 
Obviously dark,ur a huge blade fan,and the series can do no wrong. Sorry,blade 3 was bad. Ya,it made money,due to the fact blade 1 and 2 were good. Ppl go see another cause the first 2 were good,so they figure the 3rd will be good.
Far as Snipes, hes not a 'Great' actor, hes an okay actor,basically in the same category as:stallone,arnorld,jean claude van-dam,etc..Hes an action actor,bout it. I recall reading a article or interview with Snipes along time ago,saying he don't care if his movies do well,long as he's getting paid..Thats fine,thats his MO to get paid. Look at whats hes doing now,hes buddying up with chuck with infomercials,lol...
I'd see nother blade if it came out despite the dismal performance of 3,just like the series enough to see another..

I'm sorry, but putting Snipes in the same category as the arnolds and the van-dammes is insulting. The man has never been just an action star. He's done plenty of dramatic films, not to mention his role as Nino Brown in New Jack City. Incredibly charismatic, but ultimately conniving and ruthless. Snipes has always been a well-rounded actor, definitely moreso than Arnold or Van Damme. I wouldn't include Stallone in that category either, because I think as an actor he's somewhat underrated.
 
I don't really see any good way to go with a 4th. Unlesssss... Blade becomes the villain and a new crop of Hunters are pitted against him, led by Reynolds and Biel.
 
The best Blade?
Blade II
The first is a medicre action movie, and the last we talk about the last, the better.

4th movie?
Please God...no.
Blade is nothing more than action movies glued together, being the second actually good because of Del Toro and Nomak.
Like i always say, Goyer is a hack, but because he likes comics, he gets some right from time to time, Blade II was it.
It had very good characters, some that deserved to be more fleshed out (Reinhart comes to mind).
There is no room for a 4th, because it will end being more of the same.

You want more Blade?
Start over, and actually make movies about Blade, meaning with some drama and characterization in there, not just sorry excuses to see Blade kicking ass.
 
Can't see how 2 is better than 1. The effects and overuse of CGi in 2 make it underaverage, and the whole teaming up element doesn't feel very 'blade' to me. And there is a much more darker side to Blade 1, and the opening sequence is the shizzle! Whilst 2 is good, it feels really low budget and rushed in comparison. The technology element takes away from the badassness, and the extra characters aren't too charming. Don't get me wrong, I think blade 2 is great, but blade one is one of the best comic book movies for sure!
 
Can't see how 2 is better than 1. The effects and overuse of CGi in 2 make it underaverage, and the whole teaming up element doesn't feel very 'blade' to me. And there is a much more darker side to Blade 1, and the opening sequence is the shizzle! Whilst 2 is good, it feels really low budget and rushed in comparison. The technology element takes away from the badassness, and the extra characters aren't too charming. Don't get me wrong, I think blade 2 is great, but blade one is one of the best comic book movies for sure!
I explained why in the second part of my post: "Blade is nothing more than action movies glued together, being the second actually good because of Del Toro and Nomak."
You´re right, there is a huge amount of CGI, i´ll give you that, and, specially in the scene with Blade fighthing the vampires emissaries (Nyssa and some other), it just looks cheap.
And the all team up doesn´t look very Blade....ish, but the villain is little less than amazing, and the Reaper are extraordinary.
Nyssa and Reinhart are great characters, that deserved to be even more fleshout (specially the last one).
But, above all, there was that big asset called Guillermo del Toro.
 
Isildur´s Heir;11151281 said:
I explained why in the second part of my post: "Blade is nothing more than action movies glued together, being the second actually good because of Del Toro and Nomak."
You´re right, there is a huge amount of CGI, i´ll give you that, and, specially in the scene with Blade fighthing the vampires emissaries (Nyssa and some other), it just looks cheap.
And the all team up doesn´t look very Blade....ish, but the villain is little less than amazing, and the Reaper are extraordinary.
Nyssa and Reinhart are great characters, that deserved to be even more fleshout (specially the last one).
But, above all, there was that big asset called Guillermo del Toro.

I am a huge Del Toro fan, but Blade 2 is not his finest hour, I think diretion is rather bland is this movie, considering the devil's backbone, it's awful in comparison. Considering he was using CGI so much, he should have chosen to shoot sequences in a way that made it alittle less obvious.

The first Blade is much more stylistic and is much more than an action film.
 
The CGI in only one scene distracted me (sword fight in warehouse) besides that it didn't bother me at all. I enjoyed Blade 2 much more than the 1st film which I loved as well. I liked the extreme horror element.
 
I thinkt he majority of CGI in Blade 2 added to the movie, there some weak spots, but this is true of Blade and many other action movies also. Blade 2 is definately the better movie for me as the supporting characters are great as someone else mentioned, Nomak is the best villain of the series IMO, AND Blade actually develops also, he changes from what he was in the first movie. Of course the 3rd movie then ruins that.
 
I still love the scene in Blade 2 where he jumps out the window, and the camera appears to have followed him from over his shoulder inside the building, to outside the building, then down to the ground floor outside. Technically, I thought it was a very impressive use of visual effects. Yeah, there were spotty moments, but that could be said of any visual effects movie. But Tippet Studios have always done pretty good work. The effects in Starship Troopers, for example, I think they still hold up well, given how much they had to coincide with what was actually filmed. Not to mention that one scene in Hellboy at the beginning, where they combine a filmed wire stunt with visual effects, and seeing how they did it was pretty impressive, because there's never a cutaway between the actual performer and the CG image. They had to mimick the twist and spin of fabric and all the texturing, basically continuing the shot from where the stunt person is spun in a wire rig.

I loved the shot in Blade 2 with Nomak and Blade fighting and Nomak uppercuts him, and thinking, they did the whole slow-mo thing better than parts of Matrix Reloaded's burly brawl. I thought the texture work was a lot better, and seeing the sweat fly off the body, and the reflections of the glasses, and the texture of Blade's hair, and then to have it continue as he hits the wall and falls to his knees, and it's Wesley, actually on film. We're not even gonna talk about the Reaper maw, 'cause that goes without saying.
 
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