The Dark Knight BOF: BAT 2 Update

Dark Knight said:
Yup......I.N.W.T.

Now I want to know who they are looking at for Dent.


Don't think it's gonna be an outta left field casting like Ledger was. I personally would like to guy pierce as dent. He'd be great I think. Second choice would be Jackman.
 
JokerNick said:
alot of people were confused.... I know you really can't market a film as a "restart", I know it was implied, but I remember people telling me "why did they change it, didn't the joker kill batman's parents".... he needs to sperate the films more, and having a great story for the joker is what wil do it...
But this kind of thinking would mean you couldn't make another Shakespeare movie without people getting it confused with a Lawrence Olivier film :down
 
Now that Ledger has been pretty much cast, my bet would be for Dent to be between the ages of 28 - 34. My new choice is Joaquin Phoenix. Just think, Bale, Ledger, and Phoenix, that would be superb.

I hope The Joker's backstory is told through Batman's detective work within the film.
 
Ronny Shade said:
But this kind of thinking would mean you couldn't make another Shakespeare movie without people getting it confused with a Lawrence Olivier film :down

that's different....... with movies like Star Wars prequels, I can see how poeple thought that BEFORE seeing it..... but after, I don't understand, but there were people who thought that, heck I've seen people post stuff like that on here
 
I hope that the style resembles Brubaker's graphic novel The Man Who Laughs rather than the Killint Joke. In Brubaker's, the intriguing part of the story is how Batman and the Joker kind of fumble through their first encounter. It feels fresh and threatening, whereas The Killing Joke, the theme is that these two are traversing the same well worn path. I'd rather see a Batman that is still green, so green that he actually thinks he can douse himself with the Joker's fear toxin, use the antidote and come out unscathed.
 
Ronny Shade said:
There's a reason he's called the Joker though. It's cuz he's over the top.

But it doesn't neccessarily have to be in the same way as Nicholson portrayed him in Batman '89. Scale the antics down a bit and make him more sadistic in his "jokes" becasue to him sanity in this world is the biggest joke of all (if you go by the Killing Joke storyline).


I'd prefer multiple uncertain backstories

Ironically the Joker actually said this in the 'KIlling Joke' about his past. "If I'm going to have a past..I prefer multiple choice"


Ronny Shade said:
Thorne :up:

Yeah I forgot about Scarecrow. Maybe they'll open the film up with BAtman capturing him. Falcone...I don't know?


He'd better be flashy. Dress nice.

I'd rather see a darker dress code on the clown prince. Sure, the purple trech coat and hat, but a very dark purple, close to black, and maybe a black shirt instead of yellowish.


You said it. Thank Goodness. The only good one is Batman II, and that's not even that good.

Batman II??? No it doesn't flow well for this series. I think it'll be something like "Batman Strikes" or even "BAtman Continues" (just kidding)


By the by, Ronny Shade, you have the funniest avatar out there.:)
 
I believe we'll be seeing Boss Maroni, not Thorne, but I could be wrong..........
 
batmaluco said:
The best part IMO:
“From what I’ve heard about the direction of the film expect The Joker to be very creepy and very extreme.”
:up:
Sadly, they won't reach an R rating. I guess the Joker's extreme misdeeds could be implied, and it would still make him creepy, I just think that with the Joker, we should get to see something!
 
Beelze said:
Sadly, they won't reach an R rating. I guess the Joker's extreme misdeeds could be implied, and it would still make him creepy, I just think that with the Joker, we should get to see something!

Nolan will push it I'm sure - after all, he had to cut some of the Scarecrow scenes in the first film.
 
Wow, and R rating would be too much for a theatrical release. WB would not go for it.

Now, an R rated director's cut, I would definitely want that.....
 
do you think that the "fear toxin" of BB might have a hand in turning the Joker....
 
JokerNick said:
do you think that the "fear toxin" of BB might have a hand in turning the Joker....

Possibly.
 
JokerNick said:
do you think that the "fear toxin" of BB might have a hand in turning the Joker....
I'd say that's likely but not probable
 
JokerNick said:
do you think that the "fear toxin" of BB might have a hand in turning the Joker....

Possibly, but the Nolan brothers could go in a lot of different directions with it being that the story takes place a year later I believe. At least that's what was reported before.
 
I worried they'd venture into "Joker origin story" territory. I just hope they don't get too carried away with it.
 
Ronny Shade said:
I'd say that's likely but not probable

maybe something happens in the factory where the antidote is produced......


also, no cosmetic poison, please no..........
 
I think the fear toxin could play be a factor that pushed the already unstable mind of the Joker over the edge. I think if they go that route they could have him become so demented that he carves the smile into his face( think karl rupert kronen from hell boy/and Lee Bermejo's take on the Joker. I think the plays to Nolans wanting the villians to believable.
 
BmAaTn3625 said:
I think the fear toxin could play be a factor that pushed the already unstable mind of the Joker over the edge. I think if they go that route they could have him become so demented that he carves the smile into his face( think karl rupert kronen from hell boy/and Lee Bermejo's take on the Joker. I think the plays to Nolans wanting the villians to believable.

thats a little TOO extreme, thats more of a R rated territory they wont want to go into.
 
Ronny Shade said:
yeah because you're the one who came up with it :rolleyes: mm hmmm....
I'm smarter than I look.
 
you dont have to show him carve the smile but it is can be done in a pg13 setting
 
Killing Joke didn't really make The Joker sympathetic. You just saw that he wasn't always crazy. That didn't erase or excuse what he'd done to Barbara and Jim Gordon. He's stil a sick, remorseless bastard.

And regardless, since Batman doesn't kill, he DOES have some sympathy for the Joker, meaning we probably will, too.
 

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