Boston Marathon Terror Attack - Part 2

[Thundercrack85]

Generally speaking the more intricate a conspiracy theory sounds, the less plausible it is.

For that theory to work, the government had to make a plane and all its occupants disappear - yet still have them call their families to tell them the plane was hijacked.

Then somehow they would have to shoot a missile into the pentagon, and convince all the witnesses they really saw a plane. And then they would have to liter the point of impact with plane debris.

Oh, and put fake footage of a plane crashing at different angles onto multiple cameras.

And during all this, they would be coordinating with the guys who hijacked three other planes.

See how ridiculous it sounds when you lay it all out?

 

[IamtheBatman]

Generally speaking the more intricate a conspiracy theory sounds, the less plausible it is.

For that theory to work, the government had to make a plane and all its occupants disappear - yet still have them call their families to tell them the plane was hijacked.

Then somehow they would have to shoot a missile into the pentagon, and convince all the witnesses they really saw a plane. And then they would have to liter the point of impact with plane debris.

Oh, and put fake footage of a plane crashing at different angles onto multiple cameras.

And during all this, they would be coordinating with the guys who hijacked three other planes.

See how ridiculous it sounds when you lay it all out?

Or, a drone

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, the Truthers usually say a missile, but that could work too.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I was never really a conspiracy theorist but the whole 9/11 thing bothers me. There was no plane rubble, the footage shows no plane and the size of the whole isn't big enough to be a Boeing plane. But regardless, conspiracy or not, people lost their lives and that's the sad part of it all.

Seriously?!

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I've only had one friend go into the deep end of the conspiracy theory pool and it's one that I would never had guessed it. She's a white Rastafarian-believing, liberal hippy-type girl I went to high school and college with. I didn't think she was typically one to believe in such non-sense.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Seriously?!

Seriously.

It's just sketchy, that's all.

 

[danoyse]

Seriously.

It's just sketchy, that's all.

No, it really isn't.

 

[The Apocalypse]

No, it really isn't.

Yeah, it kinda is when you actually spent the time to watch a lot of the stuff on it. I'm not saying it's true or not and honestly I don't really care. My point was, that conspiracy or not a bunch of people still lost their lives that day and it seems like people forget about that and just care that they think the gov't was behind the attack.

 

[danoyse]

Yeah, it kinda is when you actually spent the time to watch a lot of the stuff on it. I'm not saying it's true or not and honestly I don't really care. My point was, that conspiracy or not a bunch of people still lost their lives that day and it seems like people forget about that and just care that they think the gov't was behind the attack.

I'll repeat this again:

I was in NYC on 9/11, my friend's mom was in DC and on the phone with my dad when the Pentagon was hit.

They were planes. We all ****ing saw them. Anyone who suggests to you otherwise is a clueless jackass with nothing better to do.

That is all.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I'll repeat this again:



That is all.

Again:

I never said it didn't.

 

[danoyse]

Again:

I never said it didn't.

And there's no need to believe otherwise.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah, it kinda is when you actually spent the time to watch a lot of the stuff on it. I'm not saying it's true or not and honestly I don't really care. My point was, that conspiracy or not a bunch of people still lost their lives that day and it seems like people forget about that and just care that they think the gov't was behind the attack.

Let me guess, you watched Loose Change.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Let me guess, you watched Loose Change.

Nope. I saw 5 minutes of it and just turned it off.

 

[regwec]

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/21/sport/london-marathon/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I thought it was a nice moment in trans-Atlantic friendship.

 

[Marvolo]

Boston Marathon suspect may never be able to be questioned, mayor says.

Surviving suspect's injuries prevent him from communicating as FBI faces scrutiny over contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/21/boston-marathon-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-injuries

Its a lot harder to interrogate a person who can't speak. Its a lot easier for them to BS and stall when all their answers have to be typed or written. Damnit!

Conspiracy nuts are already jumping all over this.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Can't he write?

 

[LuvSupes]

Can't he write?

He's sedated. I think getting him stable comes first.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, I mean down the line.

Put a pencil in his hand and a gun to his head, and tell him you'll be checking for spelling and punctuation.

 

[The Apocalypse]

He won't be able to speak ever or they just need to wait for his wounds to heal?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I question how useful he will be anyway. From the sound of things, his brother was the brains of the operation. But then again, first impressions can be deceiving.

At least it's not brain injury.

 

[KalMart]

Yeah, it kinda is when you actually spent the time to watch a lot of the stuff on it. I'm not saying it's true or not and honestly I don't really care. My point was, that conspiracy or not a bunch of people still lost their lives that day and it seems like people forget about that and just care that they think the gov't was behind the attack.

Just like killing all those young school children in Newtown was all 'part of the plan'.

 

[IamtheBatman]

He won't be able to speak ever or they just need to wait for his wounds to heal?

I have a feeling he'll heel but he won't to officials.

 

[Marvolo]

Well, I mean down the line.

Put a pencil in his hand and a gun to his head, and tell him you'll be checking for spelling and punctuation.

The problem with writing is it isn't as intense nor is it as reliable. I can write a couple pages of lies without even sweating it, but I can't speak a lie worth a damn under pressure.

It just goes much easier when the person can speak. If he could speak we could keep hammering him and hammering him and he might let something slip. Since he has to write his responses down it gives him more time to come up with his responses, and usually people don't accidentally let a thought slip onto paper. Writing takes more active thought than just saying something accidentally. It removes a lot of the spontaneous element.

That being said, they could use drugs to encourage him, without causing any physical harm or pain.

 

[danoyse]

A person can lie when they speak too. I don't see how him not being able to speak changes much.

 

[Marvolo]

A person can lie when they speak too. I don't see how him not being able to speak changes much.

It's not about lying. Its about method and momentum.

Like I just said, writing gives him more time to come up with a response. Have you ever been questioned hard by someone? They keep hammering you and trying to get you to trip up because usually someone will let sometyhing slip if you go at them hard enough. I've never heard of anyone letting something slip on paper. There is too much thought between the thought and the action of putting it to paper so you lose spontaneity.

On paper, they have to question him, and wait for him to write down his response, then question again, stop and allow him to write a response and so on and so forth. You can't build any kind of momentum. You can't keep going at him nonstop, because each time he responds you have to stop and give him time to write. It just limits there options.