Bought/Thought 19/12/07

[iloveclones]

And in my opinion, should not have been told. I honestly don't see what you guys see in Bachalo.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

His art style is slick and beautiful--slightly cartoony but hugely expressive. He gave Cannonball more visual character by putting goggles on him and sticking a toothpick in his mouth than any other artist has managed since his New Mutant days. He's also just a great storyteller, plain and simple. He's one of those rare few who manage to put solid storytelling and a great deal of flash together to make a really impressive final product.

 

[Doc Destruction]

Well, Karima isn't exactly herself atm

 

[PhotoJones]

I finished X-Men: Supernovas during lunch. Good stuff. The Children of the Vault were kind of lame, but the Hecatomb was pretty awesome, especially with Bachalo's composited artwork. Anyone wondering how comic art has changed over the years, this is a story that literally could not have been told 20 or 30 years ago--at least not in the same visually amazing way it was told here. I love how Carey's handling the X-Men so far, and I find myself liking Karima Shapandar as a character a lot. I'm planning to buy the X-Men: Blinded by the Light TPB next week to continue reading Carey's run, and I hope Karima gets some more of a spotlight.

You're in for an unpleasant surprise with Karima.

And in my opinion, should not have been told. I honestly don't see what you guys see in Bachalo.

His art style is slick and beautiful--slightly cartoony but hugely expressive. He gave Cannonball more visual character by putting goggles on him and sticking a toothpick in his mouth than any other artist has managed since his New Mutant days. He's also just a great storyteller, plain and simple. He's one of those rare few who manage to put solid storytelling and a great deal of flash together to make a really impressive final product.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, I know about Karima getting possessed and all. I just hope she gets out of it and manages to come back. Unlikely, I know, since the X-Men seem to only permit new characters on their roster for a year at most before carting them back off to obscurity (Cecelia Reyes, Neal Sharra, Marrow, and many others can attest to that), but I can hope. Carey'll still be around after MC, and if any part of Legacy takes place in the present, he may want to use Karima again.

 

[PhotoJones]

God, I loved Cecilia.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

She should still be in the X-Men's medical facility as a colleague to Hank. Every time I see Hank playing doctor, I always think, "Hank's a biologist and a geneticist, goddamnit, not a practicing physician. Where's Cecelia Reyes?"

 

[PhotoJones]

It would such an easy thing to inject in the X-books, too. One day, Corp, one day. We will make it so.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Indeed.

 

[Dread]

And in my opinion, should not have been told. I honestly don't see what you guys see in Bachalo.

Don't worry, I don't care for Bachelo's art either.

I haven't seen anything of his that didn't look like half melted clay figures in at least 7 years. Sometimes his art is borderline incomprehensible unless he is in such a rush that he needs a half dozen inkers and thus falls back on fundamentals. After his stint on Ultimate X-Men I really couldn't bare to read anything he draws. It all looks like wet claymation.

And having Cecelia Reyes as the X-Doctor, especially to give poor Elixir a damn rest, makes a lot of sense. That could work even if her powers got lost during M-Day, as she rarely seemed to like being a mutant anyway. She's been "missing" and her brother pilots one of the SENTINEL O*N*E*'s. Anyway, Reyes being the team doctor is one of those things that makes so much sense that it will never actually happen, because life is like that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Bah, wasted characters are uber-lame. I always hoped she and Beast would have a thing, too.

 

[PhotoJones]

I liked her and Bobby, actually. That was back when Beast was still with Trish, and Lobdell was writing Bobby as a competent leader.

 

[iloveclones]

Don't worry, I don't care for Bachelo's art either.

I haven't seen anything of his that didn't look like half melted clay figures in at least 7 years. Sometimes his art is borderline incomprehensible unless he is in such a rush that he needs a half dozen inkers and thus falls back on fundamentals. After his stint on Ultimate X-Men I really couldn't bare to read anything he draws. It all looks like wet claymation.

Surprisingly, I liked the previews for Amazing Spider-Man. But I'm not hopeful.

 

[Dread]

Bah, wasted characters are uber-lame.

Agreed.

Sometimes there are far too many of 'em.

 

[RockSP]

I honestly don't see what you guys see in Bachalo.

Me either. I liked him on Generation X (the few issues I read/bought) but his style seems to have changed...and not for the better.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He had a rough patch right around his stint on New X-Men where his style got way too exaggerated and started sacrificing narrative clarity, but he backed off from that and is back to a style much like his GenX style on Carey's X-Men now.

 

[El Bastardo]

And in my opinion, should not have been told. I honestly don't see what you guys see in Bachalo.

Me either. I liked him on Generation X (the few issues I read/bought) but his style seems to have changed...and not for the better.

Don't worry, I don't care for Bachelo's art either.

I haven't seen anything of his that didn't look like half melted clay figures in at least 7 years. Sometimes his art is borderline incomprehensible unless he is in such a rush that he needs a half dozen inkers and thus falls back on fundamentals. After his stint on Ultimate X-Men I really couldn't bare to read anything he draws. It all looks like wet claymation.

Yeah, fourthed. That's right, fourthed.

I can't stand Bachalo. I tend to refer to him as the "Where's Waldo?" artist of comics today. And personally, I thought his Hecatomb stuff, especially, was awful. "Oh, hmm, in order to show this character as possessed, I think I'll splash watercolors all over their face!"

Don't get me wrong - I'm not ridiculing anyone for their art tastes (as you all would begrudge me for liking Ramos ). I just don't get it.

 

[RockSP]

Bought:

Ex Machina #33
JLA #16
Batman & The Outsiders #3
Checkmate #21
Iron Fist #11
Countdown 19
Order #6
She-Hulk #24
World War Hulk Aftersmash: Warbound #1
The Umbrella Academy #4
Dynamo 5 #7, #8, #9
Tales of the Sinestro Corps:Ion
Flash #234
Stormwatch:Armageddon
Killing Girl #5
Proof #2
Black Panther #32
Astounding Wolf-man #4

Thought:

Iron Fist #11: Iron Fist is the shiznit

Checkmate #21: Checkmate is the shiznit

Umbrella Academy #4: Umbrella Academy is the shiznit

JLA #16: The story wasn't bad but I just wish it was an all JLA story since I don't read Superman and won't know how it ends. Also, the whole "Red Tornado's body gets destroyed thing" seems to contradict Meltzer's run bigtime. His body is supposed to "heal" itself, right?

 

[Darthphere]

People that hate on Bachalo have no souls.

 

[El Bastardo]

People that hate on Bachalo have no souls.

I'll agree with that.

 

[Manic]

People that hate on Bachalo have no souls.

Then I'm a soulless bastard.

As someone who got back into comics in 2003 or so, my first exposure to Bachalo was during the Ultimate War arc where the Ultimates hunted down the Ultimate X-Men.

I've hated him ever since. It's like all of his characters are decals on top of cheap Picasso knockoff backgrounds. They're so flat, completely blend in with the background, and are nearly impossible to keep track of. I've looked at his action scenes, and actually had to re-read pages just to figure out what the hell just happened.

 

[CaptainCanada]

I find Bachalo's character renderings attractive in a lot of cases ("stylized china doll" would be a good way of describing it), but his sequential storytelling is often poor, and, especially when it comes to action, everything will usually become muddled and hard to understand.

 

[GNR]

Bachalo's art doesn't attract me at all.I know he has fans,but I can't stand the style guys like him,Ramos and Young use.

 

[RockSP]

Bachalo's art doesn't attract me at all.I know he has fans,but I can't stand the style guys like him,Ramos and Young use.

Ramos is another guy who seems to have gotten more "abstract" over the years. When I first became aware of him years ago on Hardware I liked his style. Now...not so much.

 

[PhotoJones]

This thread just got 110% stupider.