BOUGHT/THOUGHT May 30

[Anubis]

The reason why they haven't talked about what they did to the Secret Avengers is because they haven't even done it yet in their book. The team has only been formed for about, an hour total out of three issues.

 

[Dread]

Yeah that all sounds dandy and whatnot but you forgot to add Megan Fox in your calculations my dear Dread.:meow:

See, that's whats wrong with Dread, he's all logic and facts. PWN3R and I, we're all heart.

Now you're saying I'm heartless? But I like stories with heart. I lost interest in NEXTWAVE because it was soulless.

And I never claimed that sales equal quality. Quite often they are opposite, ironically.

Besides, if I was heartless, I wouldn't go on passionate rants that got me in trouble.

 

[Anubis]

As long as Prime kicks somebodies ass oldschool, the movie will be a success for me.

 

[PWN3R]

Now you're saying I'm heartless? But I like stories with heart. I lost interest in NEXTWAVE because it was soulless.

And I never claimed that sales equal quality. Quite often they are opposite, ironically.

Besides, if I was heartless, I wouldn't go on passionate rants that got me in trouble.

I think we meant more on the fact that this:

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[Dread]

As long as Prime kicks somebodies ass oldschool, the movie will be a success for me.

On the plus side, my expectations are so abysmally low that even mediocrity will be an improvement. I just fear they may overdo it with the designs (not a hint of any cheese, no sir) and suffer the same problem as AVP (Aliens Vs. Predator); too many stupid humans. No one in the universe is going to that movie to see a film that is 95% full of teen romance and whatnot. They want to see Transformers, and they want the film to be about them. AVP had a film about some generic search team and barely any AVP in comparison. Hopefully TRANSFORMERS can avoid that mistake. But, like I said, it would be foolish to assume it will until one sees it, knowing the trend.

Still, least they got the original voice of Prime. Even if the film is garbage, it'll gets some nostalgia nods.

Please, PWN3R RANGER, babes in Hollywood blockbusters are a dime a dozen, and all trailers are made to look flashy. AVP looked cool in trailers.

 

[GNR]

I'll pick on him all I want, especially when most bets are on him totally butchering TRANSFORMERS.

Sounds like Dread's a TF fanboy.Careful now,they're a sensitive bunch,especially around this time.t:

Just to add my 2 cents,I think Bay's Transformers film is looking awesome beyond words.The blocky robots from the cartoon would just look silly in live action.Sure they took liberties with the designs,but they look cool as hell.

Michael Bay is the perfect guy for this film.No other director could do GIANT MUTHA******* ROBOTS battling each other in the heart of downtown Los Angeles on such a grand and epic scale.

 

[GNR]

I think we meant more on the fact that this:

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She's not bad.Even without her in the equation,I still want to see GIANT MUTHA****** ROBOTS killing each other in the streets of LA.

 

[Dread]

Sounds like Dread's a TF fanboy.Careful now,they're a sensitive bunch,especially around this time.t:

Just to add my 2 cents,I think Bay's Transformers film is looking awesome beyond words.The blocky robots from the cartoon would just look silly in live action.Sure they took liberties with the designs,but they look cool as hell.

Michael Bay is the perfect guy for this film.No other director could do GIANT MUTHA******* ROBOTS battling each other in the heart of downtown Los Angeles on such a grand and epic scale.

The TF were my early childhood. I don't think my expectations are too unreasonable, but I will be very angry if it is crap. Micheal Bay is known for brainless action. Nothing more. Hopefully that works out alright here, and he knows the expectations of the audience.

GHOST RIDER had a "hot chick", but aside for some low cut tops, she did little to actually enhance that movie (which I actually enjoyed, even if it was flawed.)

She's not bad.Even without her in the equation,I still want to see GIANT MUTHA****** ROBOTS killing each other in the streets of LA.

Me too. And I want a movie that is about THEM, not about a bunch of humans who happen to MEET them. Big difference.

 

[Eros]

since the old 80s Transformers cartoon was badly written and chessy, almost hard to listen to at times, anything Bay does will be an improvement.

 

[Phaedrus45]

I've been thinking all week about how DC has really limited themselves with 52. When you think about it, having 52 alternate earths isn't that many. As Wizard points out, nine are so far taken:

New Earth - Main Earth in the DCU

Earth-2 - Justice Society Earth

Earth-3 - Evil dopplegangers of Earth 2

Earth-4 - Film Noir planet populated by Charleton characters.

Earth-5 - Captain Marvel planet

Earth-10 - Grant Morrison concept about Earth embracing fascism

Earth-17 - post-apocalyptic world where the atomic knights protect the last signs of life

Earth-22 - Kingdom Come Earth

Earth-50 - Wildstorm Earth

Face it, there is going to come a day, probably sooner than DC realizes, where all their Earths will be used up with various creator's ideas, and they'll have to have another big event to make another 52. And, I know they want to make it nice and easy for the readers to understand...but, being a fan of Marvel comics, all their different universes haven't confused me at all.

 

[Phaedrus45]

since the old 80s Transformers cartoon was badly written and chessy, almost hard to listen to at times, anything Bay does will be an improvement.

Bay's movies:



The Island (2005) - I liked this movie....a lot. I thought it was unfairly overlooked when it came out a couple years ago. A good cast...and, you can never go wrong looking at Scarlet Johannson.

Bad Boys II (2003) - His absolute worst. I couldn't stand this piece of garbage. Luckily, I just rented it. Not sure if I ever even finished watching it. I just remember Will Smith seeming totally wrong for the part, and his bad boy attitude didn't fit who he is.

Pearl Harbor (2001) - Pure crap. One of the worst casting jobs in film history. It fails as an male-action picture and as a chick-flick. The movie never really knew what it wanted to be.

Armageddon (1998/I) - This was fun when it came out; but, I recently rewatched it again on DVD. Doesn't hold up to repeat viewings, and it's much more fun in the theater.

The Rock (1996) - Ok, this was a great movie that's still fun to watch. While Armageddon had a lot more action, this one is much better.

Bad Boys (1995) - I never liked the Bad Boys movies. I know this made some big bucks, but I was bored to all get out.

Playboy Video Centerfold: Kerri Kendall (1990) (V) - His directorial debut...I bet he still remembers this one fondly!

 

[Dread]

I've been thinking all week about how DC has really limited themselves with 52. When you think about it, having 52 alternate earths isn't that many. As Wizard points out, nine are so far taken:

New Earth - Main Earth in the DCU

Earth-2 - Justice Society Earth

Earth-3 - Evil dopplegangers of Earth 2

Earth-4 - Film Noir planet populated by Charleton characters.

Earth-5 - Captain Marvel planet

Earth-10 - Grant Morrison concept about Earth embracing fascism

Earth-17 - post-apocalyptic world where the atomic knights protect the last signs of life

Earth-22 - Kingdom Come Earth

Earth-50 - Wildstorm Earth

Face it, there is going to come a day, probably sooner than DC realizes, where all their Earths will be used up with various creator's ideas, and they'll have to have another big event to make another 52. And, I know they want to make it nice and easy for the readers to understand...but, being a fan of Marvel comics, all their different universes haven't confused me at all.

Yeah, I mean look at their ALTERNATE UNIVERSES Handbook and that is almost 50. Joe Q may not like the term 616 but writers and the Handbook people use it to keep the universes situated, and Marvel doesn't always bend over backwards to intermingle them as much; they prefer to have their cake and eat it, too. Hence why no Ultimate crossovers with 616 will happen (and I believe them). But as a mostly outsider to DC, a lot of stuff they do is downright wiggy. The Timm-era cartoons managed to be more accessable. If it wasn't for those I wouldn't bother with DC comics at all, frankly.

 

[Dread]

Bay's movies:



The Island (2005) - I liked this movie....a lot. I thought it was unfairly overlooked when it came out a couple years ago. A good cast...and, you can never go wrong looking at Scarlet Johannson.

Bad Boys II (2003) - His absolute worst. I couldn't stand this piece of garbage. Luckily, I just rented it. Not sure if I ever even finished watching it. I just remember Will Smith seeming totally wrong for the part, and his bad boy attitude didn't fit who he is.

Pearl Harbor (2001) - Pure crap. One of the worst casting jobs in film history. It fails as an male-action picture and as a chick-flick. The movie never really knew what it wanted to be.

Armageddon (1998/I) - This was fun when it came out; but, I recently rewatched it again on DVD. Doesn't hold up to repeat viewings, and it's much more fun in the theater.

The Rock (1996) - Ok, this was a great movie that's still fun to watch. While Armageddon had a lot more action, this one is much better.

Bad Boys (1995) - I never liked the Bad Boys movies. I know this made some big bucks, but I was bored to all get out.

Playboy Video Centerfold: Kerri Kendall (1990) (V) - His directorial debut...I bet he still remembers this one fondly!

I liked THE ROCK and the rest I didn't care for (although I never saw THE ISLAND and some of the other flicks have some years behind me), especially the BAD BOYS films. Even by your ratings, his "decent to suck" ratio is 50/50. Coin Flip. Oh, I love those odds.

 

[yenaled]

I've been thinking all week about how DC has really limited themselves with 52. When you think about it, having 52 alternate earths isn't that many. As Wizard points out, nine are so far taken:

New Earth - Main Earth in the DCU

Earth-2 - Justice Society Earth

Earth-3 - Evil dopplegangers of Earth 2

Earth-4 - Film Noir planet populated by Charleton characters.

Earth-5 - Captain Marvel planet

Earth-10 - Grant Morrison concept about Earth embracing fascism

Earth-17 - post-apocalyptic world where the atomic knights protect the last signs of life

Earth-22 - Kingdom Come Earth

Earth-50 - Wildstorm Earth

Face it, there is going to come a day, probably sooner than DC realizes, where all their Earths will be used up with various creator's ideas, and they'll have to have another big event to make another 52. And, I know they want to make it nice and easy for the readers to understand...but, being a fan of Marvel comics, all their different universes haven't confused me at all.

It is a lot if you don't plan to constantly visit new dimensions. There were never even 52 known dimensions in the old-multiverse and that was meant to be infinite.

 

[Themanofbat]

Stop catching feelings Dread. But honestly, you seem to not enjoy the book, a lot. Why read it? And there's more than it's a primer for the MU, because you can easily catch up on what's going on through spoilers and reviews.

I'd like to throw in "collector mentallity" in here...

I've been reading books for almost 33 years, and collecting monthlies for 29 years (been collecting since '78).

And I'll be honest in saying that not all the runs that I started reading since the late 70's/early 80's have been fantastic month after month. There were some that I thought "sucked" and would give it some time to redeem itself before I would drop it permanently. I have dropped very few books in that time (at least, until 1997, when I cut my monthly buying list from 60+ titles to 5 At the time, the industry was soooooooooooo bad, that after close to 20 years, I had had enough). Anyhoo, around 2000, I started picking up a few things and I get closer to 30 monthlies now. But other than my Spider-Man's, the Hulk & the Flash. Any and all titles that I was getting before I quit, I have not gotten back into. Because MY collector mentallity makes me go back to collect the missing, 4 to 10 year gaps I would have in my collection.

And as far as Dread goes, he probably likes the characters in MA (he is an admitted Marvel Man, and there's nothing wrong with that... so am I ), and while he doesn't care for the current creators on the book, Marvel will put someone else on the book at some point, and maybe it'll pick up at that point. In the meantime, Dread will have a complete run, and that (unfortunately) makes us geeky comic book buyers happy to say. I love telling people that I have 540 consecutive issues of Amazing Spider-Man, or that I have over 200 issue runs of practically every major player in both the Marvel & DC Universes. It's a good sign of dedication and commitment to characters that we all read because we love them. Is that mentally healthy? Probably not... but then again, I'm not a social worker.

Just my two cents...

 

[Themanofbat]

Please, PWN3R RANGER, babes in Hollywood blockbusters are a dime a dozen, and all trailers are made to look flashy.AVP looked cool in trailers.

Word amongst the robot geeks is that the director of the film has said that he didn't want ANY of the money shots in ANY of the trailers/teasers.

What we've seen thus far is cool, and if that's true, it might be a damn fine movie.

And I hate the TRANSFORMERS.... the only good thing to come out of those toys was the fact I could sing the song from the commercial into a blowing fan so my voice sounds robotic.



[TMoB's singing into a fan voice] "Transformers... robots in disguise..." [/TMoB's singing into a fan voice]

 

[Darthphere]

Word amongst the robot geeks is that the director of the film has said that he didn't want ANY of the money shots in ANY of the trailers/teasers.

What we've seen thus far is cool, and if that's true, it might be a damn fine movie.

And I hate the TRANSFORMERS.... the only good thing to come out of those toys was the fact I could sing the song from the commercial into a blowing fan so my voice sounds robotic.



[TMoB's singing into a fan voice] "Transformers... robots in disguise..." [/TMoB's singing into a fan voice]

Stop singing.

 

[Themanofbat]

Stop singing.

I can't help it... It's a good song...

 

[Themanofbat]

[TMoB's singing into a fan voice] "Transformers... robots in disguise..." [/TMoB's singing into a fan voice]

 

[Darthphere]

I can't help it... It's a good song...

[TMoB's singing into a fan voice] "Transformers... robots in disguise..." [/TMoB's singing into a fan voice]

You're scaring the children.

 

[Themanofbat]

You're scaring the children.

If you could hear my voice, they should be... t: t: t:

 

[Phaedrus45]

A Few More Quick Reviews:

VSS - Nemesis Rising #1: This book makes me happy that the 90's fad of hot selling girl comics, simply for the fact it has hot, drawn female heroines, finally faded away. Like Danger Girl, this is a team of sexy females, all with sexy names, like Raven, Scarlett, and Lark. (Funny thing how those names are more fitting for strippers than intelligent women who'd be cunning and deadly.) I will say that this book is much, much better than the God-awful recent Danger Girl series, Body Shots, mainly thanks to some decent British dialogue. But, there is still very little substance to this comic. The characters are extemely 2 dimentional, and the big surprise on the last page isn't that big of a surprise. (The VSS get a new member to their team: Scarlett. Only problem is they give us a VSS mission at the beginning that shows her as part of the team.) 6/10

Kiss4K - Legends Never Die #1: Yeah, legends never die, but maybe they should. I'm lucky enough to own a few of the Kiss Marvel appearances from the past, mainly the two Howard the Duck appearances and two special Kiss comics Marvel put out in the early 90's. I've never been a big fan. I remember liking one of their albums in the 80's, and Beth is probably my favorite song by them. But, comic-wise, it is pretty lame. With this issue, I gave it a shot, and it just fails. Basically, the four members of Kiss are reincarnations of past heroic figures, and in times of great need, they come together to fight evil. This issue just made me embarrassed for a group trying to regain past glory. 3/10

White Picket Fences #1: I'll just steal the explanation of this comic from its back cover. "When eleven-year-old Charlie Hobson uncovers Martian weapondry hidden in the outskirts of his hometown of Greenview, he unwittingly sets the stage for a world-threatening conflict that will pit the American military against a deadly alien menace." This three issue mini sets the stage for the next two issues, and the title of "White Picket Fences" aptly fits, for it would appear this comic is probably set in the 50's, with its "Leave It To Beaver" type neighborhood and personalities. We don't get to see any of the aliens, yet; basically, we see the stage set, as Charlie sets off the becon and the military invades Greenview for the probable invasion. The art really goes with the writing, and while this issue didn't blow me away in the least bit, I'll probably pick up issue #2 when I see it. 7/10

 

[Phaedrus45]

Yet More:

Deathblow #5: Just when I was giving up on this title, it improves with one issue. Probably one of the biggest problems with my reading of the Wildstorm "Worldstorm" titles is the fact that even though I own quite a few of their previous books from the Image days, I've never read them. Thus, I'm lost on a variety of levels, mainly who these people are and whether events that happened before really mean anything that's happening currently. Gen 13 seems like a starting over; but, other comics seem to be just continuing further adventures. This issue improves on the previous four because I'm beginning to understand what the heck is finally going on. Plus, the dialogue has some pretty witty banter. The title does suffer from being extremely late, though; which seems to be a problem with at least half of the Wildstorm titles. In that way, it's just like the 90's all over again. 8/10

The Boys #7: I absolutely loved issues 1-6 of this title. Sad to say, though, this is no issues 1-6. While the previous issues all built on each other, getting into a kind of flow with the various characters being introduced and revisited, the book is brought to a dead hault by introducing the readers to the super-sicko, Tek-Knight. Garth Ennis has gone back to his previous Punisher days where everything was over-the-top just to be over-the-top. The Tek-Knight character is completely ridiculous, and I almost felt like I was reading a different writer than the one who wrote those first issues. I can't explain it really well; just that it wasn't anywhere near as good as what came before it. After all that wait, what a disappointment. 5/10

Teen Titans #47: Ugggg....It's my biggest fear. In an attempt to copy the sales that Marvel was and still is seeing with the Civil War/Initiative cross-overs, DC would attempt it with their latest year-long Countdown. Why this is bad is because the writers of many DC comics just aren't that good. Case in point: Teen Titans #47. This tie-in is in regards to ex-Titan Duela (Joker's alternate-world daughter) being killed and the Titans looking for clues into her killer. While Countdown handled this nicely and actually made Jason Todd interesting again after his terrible appearance in the pages of Nightwing, Teen Titans kills this story deader than Duela. None of the characters are very interesting, which is sad. These crossovers and events make the reader realize that the characters can be interesting if only given decent writers. Again, a very, very bad comic. 2/10

Countdown #48: Oh boy, was this issue bad. I'm shaking my head wondering what DC is thinking. I just feel like they are chasing something by trying to copy things that worked for them or other companies in the past. While 52 failed slightly by not really tying their other comics onto that hot title, Countdown seems to be doing just that, but badly.

*First, the events from Teen Titans just don't follow what happens in this issue very well. How is Jason Todd talking to Donna Troy when in Teen Titans he's getting questioned by Nightwing, Robin and others? Why does he know next to nothing in Teen Titans, yet seems to clue into all the possible answers in Countdown?

*Next, does anyone really like Jimmy Olsen? This just reads like a bad Rick Jones story of Jimmy gaining powers. I've never liked his character; so, maybe that changes my view on things.

*Lastly, this issue just didn't flow well at all. It just seemed like they were jumping from one scene to the next. Heck, it seemed to happen in less than a day; they've gotten rid of telling things in Week 4, Day 3 type style.

In the end, while I love that Marvel's events seem to bond the titles together and have the many writers pretty much on the same page, this seems like DC trying to make a quick buck. It doesn't feel like they are united in any way. DC is really starting to make some serious mistakes, imo. They can't even seem to keep a good writer on their main books, and we get either storylines dropped all together, or we have fill-in writers and artists that bring the title down. 5/10

Wow, out of those four titles, I'm surprised that Deathblow was the best of the bunch. I still have five more comics to read: Amazons Attack #2, Justice Society of America #6, Green Lantern #20, Action Comics #850, and Magician Apprentice #7. Thankfully, I'm saving JSofA to end the week with a probable positive side.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Milla sucks, I hope Melvin kills her, all she does is complain anyways

I finally feel safe enough to look over past reviews without having much of anything ruined. I totally disagree with this. Milla is great, and unlike Mary Jane, who we see complain throughout the years, the reader needs to understand that Milla is new to all this. She is having to deal with a man who is not only handicapped in the physical sense, but emotionally as well. He keeps things to himself with a sense that he's protecting her from pain; but, in actuality is causing much more damage with his secretive nature.

 

[Dread]

Yeah, DC has been in some major trouble since IC ended, at least from the notice of an outsider like me. I buy a few DC books but not really anything canonical (Dini's DETECTIVE issues, BLUE BEETLE, THE SPIRIT, JUSTICE, and ALL-STAR SUPERMAN, and some of those are mini's). There definately is the sense that after snagging Top sales for one month in 2006, DC has nothing left and is just floundering at trying to ape what Marvel is doing, but with an older mindset of ideas or relying on unproven talent, or mucking continuity.