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Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

This summer has been notorious for big drops (sans Transformers thus far), and FF2 got the worst of it it seems.

DVD releases seem to be happening quicker and movies leave theaters earlier anymore. It is becoming an industry trend.

But, even with the trend, these are disappointing numbers. Once the DVD is out (and assuming it sells well), I think this is when FF3 gets rolling along. It seems FOX is much more interested in the Surfer at this moment (probably trying to find that big property they still lack). As a Surfer fan, I am happy his movie is gaing momentum, but I do want to see FF3 (since I enjoyed this film a lot).

Here is hoping the DVD sells well :up:

They missed out on their "next big property" by screwing the F4 franchise like they have.....SS is not going to be their "next big franchise" IMHO....
 
They missed out on their "next big property" by screwing the F4 franchise like they have.....SS is not going to be their "next big franchise" IMHO....

They have missed the boat a bit on the FF, I agree. I in no way say the SS will be their next big thing, but I definately see that FOX is looking for that next big thing. However, some of the news I have heard on it thus far show me that the SS movie could be heading in the right direction right now.

If FOX didn't always play it "safe" and dumb down their movies, none of this searching would be neccesary though. The FF movies thus far have not been near what they could be, I 100% agree with everyone on this.

That said, I still would like to see FF3.
 
They missed out on their "next big property" by screwing the F4 franchise like they have.....SS is not going to be their "next big franchise" IMHO....

The next big franchise will be Iron Man. :woot: Can't wait.
 
Not for FOX.

I was not talking about Fox. I was refering to the next big Marvel franchise, and it should be Iron Man, Not the Silver Surfer. The Silver Surfer has potential, if it is done right, and knowing Fox......... Paramount is doing Iron Man. The studio who bought us, Titanic, Forrest Gump, Shrek 3, Transformers, Beverly Hill Cop, War of The Worlds, MI 2, Raiders of The Lost Ark, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusaide. Very impressive list. :woot: Favreau is a virtual unknown. He directed Elf. $ 33 million to make. $ 173.4 dom. $ 220.3 WW. Robert Downey Jr., Terrence Howard, Gwenth Paltrow, and Jeff Bridges. Should be big.
 
I was not talking about Fox. I was refering to the next big Marvel franchise, and it should be Iron Man, Not the Silver Surfer. The Silver Surfer has potential, if it is done right, and knowing Fox......... Paramount is doing Iron Man. The studio who bought us, Titanic, Forrest Gump, Shrek 3, Transformers, Beverly Hill Cop, War of The Worlds, MI 2, Raiders of The Lost Ark, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusaide. Very impressive list. :woot: Favreau is a virtual unknown. He directed Elf. $ 33 million to make, $ 220.3 WW.

I was talking about what FOX's next big money making franchise is...I wasn't talking about Marvel when I mentioned the Surfer.
 
I was not talking about Fox. I was refering to the next big Marvel franchise, and it should be Iron Man, Not the Silver Surfer. The Silver Surfer has potential, if it is done right, and knowing Fox......... Paramount is doing Iron Man. The studio who bought us, Titanic, Forrest Gump, Shrek 3, Transformers, Beverly Hill Cop, War of The Worlds, MI 2, Raiders of The Lost Ark, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusaide. Very impressive list. :woot: Favreau is a virtual unknown. He directed Elf. $ 33 million to make. $ 173.4 dom. $ 220.3 WW. Robert Downey Jr., Terrence Howard, Gwenth Paltrow, and Jeff Bridges. Should be big.

I think Favreau was the best possible choice for Iron Man, and I hope he gets more great franchises to direct.
 
I think Favreau was the best possible choice for Iron Man, and I hope he gets more great franchises to direct.

I've seen Elf. It was hilliarious. And from the behind the scenes footage I saw of Iron Man, it looks like a winner. The best ? I don't know, but I'm all for giving a guy a chance. At least I know Paramount will put out a few bucks. I know he's a big fan of Kevin Smith ( me too ). What he did with the 2 Clerks movies, basicly doing both on bare bones set, it was amazing. Clerks he did for $ 27,000 that he had to beg, borrow, and steal for. Made it in a supermarket where he worked at night after the store closed, made $ 3.2 million. Clerks 2 cost $ 5 million. Made $ 27 million WW, plus made 24 million in DVD sales. Amazing indeed.
 
Monday's #'s are in:

FF 2 :

Domestic: $128,979,815 54.4%+ Foreign: $108,158,151 45.6%= Worldwide: $237,137,966

TF's :

Domestic: $265,802,674 58.0%+ Foreign: $192,437,683 42.0%= Worldwide: $458,240,357

HP :

Domestic: $212,681,190 37.7%+ Foreign: $351,300,000 62.3%= Worldwide: $563,981,190

SM 3 :

Domestic: $335,625,539 37.8%+ Foreign: $552,809,653 62.2%= Worldwide: $888,435,192

Pirates :

Domestic: $306,145,052 32.6%+ Foreign: $634,072,000 67.4%= Worldwide: $940,217,052

Shrek 3 :

Domestic: $319,005,061 45.4%+ Foreign: $382,891,729 54.6%= Worldwide: $701,896,790

Added a bonus today. :woot: Take care of everyone. Never had thought the way Pirates started out that it would beat SM 3 WW, and come within $ 29 million dom. Just goes to show you never count out Depp. He's still a big box office draw. There's the big 5 this year. Pick out where you think each will finish by years end. Will it be Pirates or HP for 1st WW ?
 
Paramount is doing Iron Man.
Actually, Paramount is just distributing Iron Man. Marvel is financing and producing Iron Man themselves. This is the first time Marvel is completely calling the shots, so it'll be interesting to see how they do.
 
Actually, Paramount is just distributing Iron Man. Marvel is financing and producing Iron Man themselves. This is the first time Marvel is completely calling the shots, so it'll be interesting to see how they do.

Yea, but I'd still rather have Paramount involved than Fox, and yes it will be interesting indeed to see how Marvel does calling the shots.
 
5.4%+ Foreign: $382,891,729 54.6%= Worldwide: $701,896,790

Added a bonus today. :woot: Take care of everyone. Never had thought the way Pirates started out that it would beat SM 3 WW, and come within $ 29 million dom. Just goes to show you never count out Depp. He's still a big box office draw. There's the big 5 this year. Pick out where you think each will finish by years end. Will it be Pirates or HP for 1st WW ?

I was steadfast in thinking Potter would finish #1 worldwide, but not anymore. I'm flip-flopping my worldwide guesses, however I still think I'm dead on with my domestic predictions.

Worldwide
1. Pirates
2. Spiderman 3
3. Potter
4. Transformers
5. Shrek

Domestic
1. Spiderman 3
2. Shrek
3. Transformers
4. Pirates
5. Potter
 
Yea, but I'd still rather have Paramount involved than Fox, and yes it will be interesting indeed to see how Marvel does calling the shots.

I think the best possible thing for any Marvel franchise to have Marvel calling the shots the whole time. I say that with a bit of trepidation, since the X-Men and Spiderman franchises were generally pretty good, but there is no better company that would respect the source material than the company who invented the property.
 
Around the World Roundup: 'Harry Potter' Commands Second Frame
by Conor Bresnan
July 24, 2007


Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix took a sizeable hit over the weekend while still adding remarkable openings from new territories. The fifth entry in the boy wizard franchise had steeper drops than its predecessors in some markets, while others saw better holds than the first movie, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. All told, Order of the Phoenix conjured $102.5 million from 58 territories for a $353.2 million total.

Leading the pack was a series best start in Japan: $18.6 million from 951 screens. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix also set new franchise highs in Russia ($7.3 million from 532 prints) and Israel ($663,500 from 33 prints). Other openings included Bulgaria ($85,683 from 14 screens, just beneath Goblet of Fire), Romania ($94,296 from 7) and the United Arab Emirates ($767,539 from 35).

Among holdovers, Austria, the Netherlands and Switzerland fell less than 40 percent after franchise best debuts. Larger markets, though, saw steeper falls like Germany's 47 percent fall to $10.3 million for a $35.2 million total and the United Kingdom's 60 percent tumble to $13.6 million for a $61.6 million total.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix had little new competition in Europe, but Transformers was unleashed Latin America and a variety of movies led their respective markets in Asia. Order of the Phoenix was second to Transformers in Mexico, down 59 percent for an $18.3 million total. In South Korea, Potter took a back seat to Live Free or Die Hard
with a $3.4 million weekend and a $20.8 million total. Order of the Phoenix's next stop is Poland, where Shrek the Third recently posted the highest gross ever.

Thanks to fresh starts in Latin America, Transformers placed second overseas with $33.8 million from 41 screens for a $192.4 million total. Action is the strongest-selling genre in Latin America and Transformers was no exception. In Mexico, the robo-spectacle opened to $5.5 million from 410 screens and, in Argentina, its $1 million from 88 screens tripled the debut of Casino Royale. Brazil was less impressive with $2.6 million from 326 screens, but Chile ($788,905 from 38 screens) and Colombia ($834,526 from 84) were fantastic.

Transformers continued to have the best run of any American picture in South Korea. Having already broken the all time record, Transformers earned $3.1 million in its fourth weekend for a $45.8 million total. South Korea is by far the picture's highest-grossing territory, but Japan's Aug. 4 debut looms. Meanwhile, in China, where final figures weren't yet available, the picture is almost certain to top $20 million by week's end.

In third place, Live Free or Die Hard added an estimated $23 million over the weekend, propelled by South Korea's enormous $11.3 million six-day opening from 531 screens. The action sequel also dazzled in Taiwan as well with a second-ranked $1.3 million from 192 screens. It also continued to do well in its highest-grossing market, Japan, with a fourth-weekend tally of $1.6 million for a $24.7 million tally.

Shrek the Third snatched fourth place with an $11.9 million weekend from 40 territories for a $382.9 million total. The animated comedy hasn't had a major opening in four weeks yet continued to see good grosses like the U.K.'s $3.3 million and France's $1.7 million. In late August, it will open across Scandinavia and Italy, and the verdict is still out on whether or not it can top Shrek 2's $479.4 million.

Ratatouille seized fifth place with a $3.4 million weekend and an estimated $37.2 million total. The rat chef comedy has held decently in Latin America. In its third weekend in Mexico, for instance, it bagged $1.4 million from 667 screens for a $10.5 million total.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2356&p=.htm

Note : Japan and China will be huge for TF's. They love those robot pictures there.
 
I was not talking about Fox. I was refering to the next big Marvel franchise, and it should be Iron Man, Not the Silver Surfer. The Silver Surfer has potential, if it is done right, and knowing Fox......... Paramount is doing Iron Man. The studio who bought us, Titanic, Forrest Gump, Shrek 3, Transformers, Beverly Hill Cop, War of The Worlds, MI 2, Raiders of The Lost Ark, and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusaide. Very impressive list. :woot: Favreau is a virtual unknown. He directed Elf. $ 33 million to make. $ 173.4 dom. $ 220.3 WW. Robert Downey Jr., Terrence Howard, Gwenth Paltrow, and Jeff Bridges. Should be big.

But you replied to my post, and I was talking about Fox.
 

Pick out where you think each will finish by years end. Will it be Pirates or HP for 1st WW ?
Top 5 Domestic:

1. Spider-Man 3
2. Shrek 3
3. Transformers
4. Pirates 3
5. Harry Potter 5

Top 5 Worldwide:

1. Pirates 3
2. Harry Potter 5
3. Spider-Man 3
4. Transformers
5. Shrek 3
 
if ff2 finishes with only 130m...is it really going to be looked at as a total failure?
 

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