Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Advanced Dark]

Good.

 

[Carp Man]

Box office thru Thursday :

FF 2 :
Domestic: $131,230,080 49.2%+ Foreign: $135,695,687 50.8%= Worldwide: $266,925,767

 

[Carp Man]

EXCLUSIVE FANTASY MOGULS EARLY FRIDAY ESTIMATES
7. The Simpsons Movie (Fox) - $1.28M [$170.3M cume]
11. Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (Warner Bros) - $600,000 [$279.3M cume]
18. Transformers (Dreamworks/Paramount) - $303,000 [$306.7M cume]
33. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox) - $45,000 [$131.2M cume]


EXCLUSIVE FANTASY MOGULS REVISED 3-DAY ESTIMATES
7. The Simpsons Movie (Fox) - $4.57M [$173.6M cume]
12. Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix (Warner Bros) - $2.05M [$280.8M cume]
18. Transformers (Dreamworks/Paramount) - $1.05M [$307.5M cume]
32. Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (Fox) - $158,000 [$131.3M cume]

http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2007/08/1-superbad-adds.html

 

[Advanced Dark]

We're done. 131.5 is the max for sure domestic.

 

[Kelly]

Damn this is like counting pennies....lmao

 

[YJ1]

Damn this is like counting pennies....lmao

Along those lines, what is a movie's take from the bargain cinemas? FF2 is still playing at a few $1.50 cinemas near me. Does the theatre pay a flat fee to carry the movie for a certain time? It seems like everyone that pays $1.50 or even a $1 to see it would hurt the overall rental numbers. I've always wondered this and since we're counting pennies with this one...

 

[Malus]

Well FF2 isn't in the Top 10 (Die Hard edged it out by a little less than a million), but it's nice to see it included with the other "blockbuster" pics.
Source: LA Weekly
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/its-official-summer-2007-smashes-record/

SUMMER 2007 SMASHES RECORD

Because of (or in spite of) all those blockbusters and threequels, Summer 2007 today crossed the $4 billion mark, setting a new record for total domestic gross receipts. Media By Numbers which has been keeping a running tally on summer-to-date statistics just told me that the period May 1 through today has made $4.003 billion. That's way past 2006's $3.633 billion, with revenue up 10.18% and attendance up 5.35%. But it surpasses even 2004's record of $3.95 billion reached by Labor Day (that summer-to-date figure is only $3.810 billion). This is the first $4 billion summer ever. By September 3rd, attendance will be over 600 million tickets for the first time in two years, but that's still short of 2002's 650 million tickets sold. True, not all the big tentpoles worked for critics, some sequels sank, pics faded faster than expected, and these numbers aren't adjusted for ticket prices or inflation. For instance, average ticket prices in 2004 was $6.21 versus $6.85 in 2007. (Which is why Hollywood box office figures are starting to resemble baseball statistics with lots of asterisks after every record set...) But there were so many blockbusters crowded in weekend after weekend that Summer 2007 was able to break the record before even reaching September 3rd. Here are the Top 10 Summer Movies so far:

 

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Sony's "Surf's Up" boarded its way to $3.3 million at 1,930 from 35 holdover markets for a foreign cume of $32.1 million, and Par's "Disturbia" scared up $2.8 million at 809. Fox's summer actioners "Live Free or Die Hard" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" followed, with the fourth "Die Hard" adding $3 million and the second "Four" $2.7 million to push respective international totals to $220 million and $139 million.

131.3 Domestic
139.0 International
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270.3 Million Worldwide

 

[Iron Maiden]

Very interesting ranking update Malus. So despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, it looks like FF:ROTS will end up at least in the top 15 ranking for the year, domestically.

 

[Kelly]

This was a crazy summer for movies....the fact that a low budget "R" rated Comedy has made it in the top 10 in a summer full of BLOCKBUSTERS.....is wild. I've learned a huge lesson, I have a feeling that I will be spending much more of my money on independents from now on. The blockbusters of this year could have all been DVD viewings for me, and will in the future.

 

[Carp Man]

Very interesting ranking update Malus. So despite all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, it looks like FF:ROTS will end up at least in the top 15 ranking for the year, domestically.

It's about tapped out. Mabey couple hundred thousand more. close to 132 not too bad. Looked like it was going to be worse.

 

[Carp Man]

'Superbad' Stays on Top
by Brandon Gray
August 26, 2007

True to late August's reputation as a dumping ground, five lackluster wide releases entered the fray, leading to an unexciting weekend at the box office. Superbad ranked first again, though it did not hold well. Off 46 percent to an estimated $18 million, the raunchy comedy fell harder than Knocked Up and The 40-Year-Old Virgin among others but, with $68.6 million in ten days, it has accumulated more than those pictures through the same point.

n second place, The Bourne Ultimatum became the highest grossing picture of its series. Again holding better than previous movie The Bourne Supremacy, the action thriller made an estimated $12.4 million, lifting its total to $185.1 million in 24 days. Supremacy grossed $176.2 million in its entire run, and soon Ultimatum will become the only sequel of the summer to see greater attendance than its predecessor.

On the other hand, Rush Hour 3 continued to trail Rush Hour 2 by a wide margin. Down 43 percent, the action comedy rounded up an estimated $12.3 million for $109 million in 17 days. It's also lagging behind the first Rush Hour in terms of attendance. Faring best among the new movies, Mr. Bean's Holiday sprouted an estimated $10.1 million at 1,714 sites. A hit internationally, Universal Pictures' lowbrow comedy sold far fewer tickets in its debut than its predecessor Bean from ten years ago.

Meanwhile, Transformers climbed past Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End to become the third-highest grossing picture of the summer with $308.6 million in 55 days.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2376&p=.htm

 

[Mercurius]

This is beyond counting pennies, this is the real "scratching the bottom" thing.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Well were over 270 million with Japan still to open next month. Every penny counts here.

 

[Malus]

This was a crazy summer for movies....the fact that a low budget "R" rated Comedy has made it in the top 10 in a summer full of BLOCKBUSTERS.....is wild. I've learned a huge lesson, I have a feeling that I will be spending much more of my money on independents from now on. The blockbusters of this year could have all been DVD viewings for me, and will in the future.

Total agreement there. It seems near-impossible for a singular creative vision to survive the blockbuster-making process, leading to films that may look and sound stunning but are vacant in most every meaningful respect. I didn't see a single tentpole flick this summer that didn't have me wondering "what were they thinking?" at least a few times.
Everything from Galactus' non-appearance and the too-dark-to-see sky battle with Doom in FF2 to the crude *********ion reference and faux urination on John Turturro in Transformers to Spidey's dancing crybaby act in Spidey 3. The number of high-dollar suckitude moments was depressing. Film-making by committee has let me down time and time again.
I'm sure I'll be there opening day next summer for Hulk, Iron Man and Dark Knight, but for now the next film I'm looking forward to is Wes Anderson's The Darjeeling Limited with Owen Wilson, Adrian Brody and Jason Schwartzman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mbgzJG5Zdk

 

[Iron Maiden]

Wow.... this really weird and really waaay off topic but unconfirmed reports state that Owen Wilson may have attempted suicide. He is hospitalized is all that is certain.

 

[Carp Man]

Wow.... this really weird and really waaay off topic but unconfirmed reports state that Owen Wilson may have attempted suicide. He is hospitalized is all that is certain.

Yep saw that.


Owen Wilson Hospitalized in Calif.
Aug 27, 12:45 PM EST

The Associated Press

SANTA MONICA, Calif. -- Owen Wilson was taken to the hospital by paramedics this weekend, authorities said Monday.

It wasn't known why the 38-year-old actor was hospitalized, but a neighbor said a police car, fire truck and ambulance were outside Wilson's gated house around noon Sunday.

"These guys were kind of taking their time taking a stretcher out of the ambulance, then they went into the house," said neighbor Geoffry White, 61, who lives directly across the street.

The National Enqirer's Web site reported that Wilson had sliced his wrist and took pills in an apparent suicide attempt before being transported to the hospital.

A spokesman for Wilson said a statement would be released later Monday.
Santa Monica Fire Battalion Chief Jose Torres said Monday the department responded to a call that involved Wilson.

He said Wilson was taken to St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica. A hospital spokeswoman didn't immediately return phone calls. The chief wouldn't comment on Wilson's injuries or condition, citing federal privacy laws.

Wilson's screen credits include "Wedding Crashers" and "You, Me and Dupree." He was nominated for a screenwriting Oscar for 2001's "The Royal Tenenbaums."

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=273552&GT1=7701

 

[Advanced Dark]

Forget that. I want to watch the blockbusters on the big screen. The big screen to me is for the F/X and awe inspiring visual films. I don't need to spend 60 bucks for my family to go see an Indie film in the theatre which will be on DVD a month after it's release and then in the bargin bins for 5 bucks a month after that. LOL

 

[Carp Man]

Forget that. I want to watch the blockbusters on the big screen. The big screen to me is for the F/X and awe inspiring visual films. I don't need to spend 60 bucks for my family to go see an Indie film in the theatre which will be on DVD a month after it's release and then in the bargin bins for 5 bucks a month after that. LOL

LOL. You are so right. The only way to see the F/X movies is on the big screen. The small screen does not do those type of films justice. Indiana Jones what 5 ? I can wait. Get Smart next year. I can wait. Most movies in the theaters you can wait for the DVD. You don't need to spend 60 bucks to see The Devil Wears Prada. FF 2, Transformers, HP, WOTW. The only way to see those movies is on the big screen. On a similar note, is anyone suprised that TSM appears to be on tract to make over $ 450 WW ? How about TF's $ 663 WW ? Plus it's 3rd behind Shrek the 3rd, and Spider-Man 3 domestic box office 07 ? I know I am on both counts.

 

[Malus]

Forget that. I want to watch the blockbusters on the big screen. The big screen to me is for the F/X and awe inspiring visual films. I don't need to spend 60 bucks for my family to go see an Indie film in the theatre which will be on DVD a month after it's release and then in the bargin bins for 5 bucks a month after that. LOL

Hey that's what home theater and surround sound is for, AD!

All I know is I'd trade the experience of seeing my last 5 "blockbusters" on the big screen (FF2 included) to be able to go back in time and see "Raising Arizona," "Harold and Maude," "Magnolia" or "The Life Aquatic" on that same screen. Even without the digital sound.

But sure, I think all good films are better enjoyed in a real theater. (Assuming the equipment is working properly and there is a complete lack of yahoos in the audience.)
I just think the big films aren't delivering enough for my money except for the special effects and sound, which of course are always gonna be more satisfying on the big screen. In the new Die Hard for instance: that careening car landing squarely on the car hoods on either side of Bruce Willis. No way will a shot like that ever be the same at home.
On the other hand, I look forward to being able to back up and rewatch many parts of Spidey 3 and Transformers because the action was often too fast for me to follow.
But it's the human element in these big films (or lack thereof) that often disappoints me. I love it when a big blockbuster hits all the right buttons, but it's not happening nearly enough anymore, for whatever reasons. (Mostly I blame the micro-managing and general mucking up that's perpetrated by all the talentless suits...but that's just my take.)

I want the feeling I had walking out of movies like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Star Trek II and Superman I & II.
And with the possible exception of Spidey 2...I just haven'tfelt that in a long time.

 

[Kelly]

Total agreement there. It seems near-impossible for a singular creative vision to survive the blockbuster-making process, leading to films that may look and sound stunning but are vacant in most every meaningful respect. I didn't see a single tentpole flick this summer that didn't have me wondering "what were they thinking?" at least a few times.
Everything from Galactus' non-appearance and the too-dark-to-see sky battle with Doom in FF2 to the crude *********ion reference and faux urination on John Turturro in Transformers to Spidey's dancing crybaby act in Spidey 3. The number of high-dollar suckitude moments was depressing. Film-making by committee has let me down time and time again.
I'm sure I'll be there opening day next summer for Hulk, Iron Man and Dark Knight, but for now the next film I'm looking forward to is Wes Anderson's The Darjeeling Limited with Owen Wilson, Adrian Brody and Jason Schwartzman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mbgzJG5Zdk

I agree on all counts.......after watching "Rescue Dawn", I sat in the theatre, and thought to myself, my god.....here was a movie, that had no FX, no CGI, no BIG BATTLE scenes, etc.......but had a story that held me to my seat, and sent emotions welling up inside that I haven't had in the theatre for awhile....

I didn't realize how much I missed that at the movies....

There are alot of indys out there that look awesome, and I'm looking forward to seeing them all....

 

[Advanced Dark]

There's room for Indies and studio productions. There's room for action, drama, sci-fi, horror, etc...Watch what you want.

 

[Kelly]

There's room for Indies and studio productions. There's room for action, drama, sci-fi, horror, etc...Watch what you want.

Isn't that kind of a duh?

We aren't saying "what" people should watch.....we are saying "what" we want to see....

 

[Advanced Dark]

Hey that's what home theater and surround sound is for, AD!

All I know is I'd trade the experience of seeing my last 5 "blockbusters" on the big screen (FF2 included) to be able to go back in time and see "Raising Arizona," "Harold and Maude," "Magnolia" or "The Life Aquatic" on that same screen. Even without the digital sound.

But sure, I think all good films are better enjoyed in a real theater. (Assuming the equipment is working properly and there is a complete lack of yahoos in the audience.)
I just think the big films aren't delivering enough for my money except for the special effects and sound, which of course are always gonna be more satisfying on the big screen. In the new Die Hard for instance: that careening car landing squarely on the car hoods on either side of Bruce Willis. No way will a shot like that ever be the same at home.
On the other hand, I look forward to being able to back up and rewatch many parts of Spidey 3 and Transformers because the action was often too fast for me to follow.
But it's the human element in these big films (or lack thereof) that often disappoints me. I love it when a big blockbuster hits all the right buttons, but it's not happening nearly enough anymore, for whatever reasons. (Mostly I blame the micro-managing and general mucking up that's perpetrated by all the talentless suits...but that's just my take.)

I want the feeling I had walking out of movies like Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Star Trek II and Superman I & II.
And with the possible exception of Spidey 2...I just haven'tfelt that in a long time.

It's not exactly the same. I have 50" plasma on my wall w/surround sound and it's a blast playing Bioshock on that for sure but unless you're a multi-millionaire it's still not the same as a 4 story high projection image. Do I really need to see some zero-budget Indie film on the big screen? No those are for rentals. I want to see Indiana Jones, Batman, Hulk, Iron Man on those screen. The last thing I need to see is John Heder 8 stories high in Napoleon Dynamite.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Domestic: $131,385,634 49.2%+ actuals per 8/27
Foreign: $139,000,000 (per variety and hollywood reporter 8/26

Worldwide: $270,385,634