Arrow Brandon Routh IS Ray Palmer/The Atom

Looks like DC may is going to beat Marvel to the shrinking hero punch if Routh's Ray becomes the atom on the show.

It would be hilarious if they got Edgar Wright to guest direct a couple of episodes seeing as he is gone from Ant-Man and directed Routh in Scott Pilgrim.
 
I don't understand why Arrow would be as low key, barely science fiction as it was in the first season and then by season 3 have an incredible shrinking man. I mean, I would have embraced a more fantastical Arrow if that was what they'd originally created, but to me this is less awesome news and more potential shark-jumping moment.

are you aware that The Flash is set in the same universe as Arrow... obviously things are going to get crazy in this universe.

They wanted to start the show grounded, and progressively build to crazier things. it's a perfect plan and i suspect it'll continue to work as organically as it has already
 
I hope he does both Arrow and Flash as Ray Palmer/ Atom. He can be in Arrow as Ray Palmer and then maybe be in Flash as the Atom.
 
Had to do a double take. "Brandon Routh is the Atom... wait, Brandon Routh?"

I think it's great the character is appearing, anyway. It's cool how Arrow can explore the DC universe like this (unlike, say, Agents of SHIELD), and I hope his appearance in the show is a good one.
 
are you aware that The Flash is set in the same universe as Arrow... obviously things are going to get crazy in this universe.

They wanted to start the show grounded, and progressively build to crazier things. it's a perfect plan and i suspect it'll continue to work as organically as it has already

I knew, and I was hoping that the fantastical stuff would stay in the Flash show as much as possible, because I can always ignore that show while watching Arrow. I feel the opposite about the approach, that starting grounded and going fantastical is exactly the wrong way to do things. This is why I prefer the DCCU's top down approach to the MCU's approach: start off with Superman's fantastical world and establish Batman within that world if he's going to be in that world.
 
I hope he does both Arrow and Flash as Ray Palmer/ Atom. He can be in Arrow as Ray Palmer and then maybe be in Flash as the Atom.

See, now this I would be fine with.
 
Get out of *&$^* town! This is great news!I'm looking forward to seeing Routh with the mantle of a super hero again.
 
I think they're building towards a Justice League without the trinity.
 
I'm pretty sure they said something about doing their own version of a Justice League at some point in Arrow.
 
I don't understand why Arrow would be as low key, barely science fiction as it was in the first season and then by season 3 have an incredible shrinking man. I mean, I would have embraced a more fantastical Arrow if that was what they'd originally created, but to me this is less awesome news and more potential shark-jumping moment.

Did you watch Season 2?

In Season 2, they very much opened up the world so that "meta-humans" like The Flash and Solomon Grundy can exist, and where tech that makes powers like Ray Palmer's possible can exist.
 
I'm not sure why people think playing Superman is some guarantee to A-list roles or leading man roles.

Routh was a jobbing TV actor before Superman Returns and he has mostly been a jobbing TV actor post-Superman returns. There are a lot better and more successful actors than Brandon Routh who have gone from leading men or women in films to supporting roles on television. I don't thinking there is any shame for Routh taking this role.
 
I'm not sure why people think playing Superman is some guarantee to A-list roles or leading man roles.

Routh was a jobbing TV actor before Superman Returns and he has mostly been a jobbing TV actor post-Superman returns. There are a lot better and more successful actors than Brandon Routh who have gone from leading men or women in films to supporting roles on television. I don't thinking there is any shame for Routh taking this role.

Because I think that was their intent for him in the first place. The thing of it was, that was not the kind of movie you build a leading-man career off of.

But yeah, I don't see any shame in this either. This is what his career has been for years.
 
I don't understand why Arrow would be as low key, barely science fiction as it was in the first season and then by season 3 have an incredible shrinking man. I mean, I would have embraced a more fantastical Arrow if that was what they'd originally created, but to me this is less awesome news and more potential shark-jumping moment.

I knew, and I was hoping that the fantastical stuff would stay in the Flash show as much as possible, because I can always ignore that show while watching Arrow. I feel the opposite about the approach, that starting grounded and going fantastical is exactly the wrong way to do things. This is why I prefer the DCCU's top down approach to the MCU's approach: start off with Superman's fantastical world and establish Batman within that world if he's going to be in that world.

Just :whatever::doh:
 
Did you watch Season 2?

In Season 2, they very much opened up the world so that "meta-humans" like The Flash and Solomon Grundy can exist, and where tech that makes powers like Ray Palmer's possible can exist.

Season 2 went against my belief in consistency, and I graded it down for that (while still thinking it was a great season), but this is a whole other level. I think it's definitely more far out for someone to be shrunk down to tiny size than to be given what's basically a super-steroid, and at the same time it would be a lot harder for it to be compellingly dramatic. At least the Mirakuru really worked out storywise, because you had the mental issues it caused and the challenge and threat that Deathstroke and his army posed, but I think Atom's ability is pretty corny in the context of this show. It might work great in Flash, I don't know.

And bringing up Season 2, they took away Black Canary's cry. Why do that and then do something like this?
 
A job is a job man. There are a LOT of worse things you could be doing and they wouldn't even pay you half the money.

Besides Routh seems like a good guy who was caught in an awful movie, no one would have saved SR. Hopefully this time around fares better for him, and the show keeps getting bigger, thats always good
 
I'm suspecting atleast ONE superman joke to come from this.

Same. :woot:

I don't understand why Arrow would be as low key, barely science fiction as it was in the first season and then by season 3 have an incredible shrinking man. I mean, I would have embraced a more fantastical Arrow if that was what they'd originally created, but to me this is less awesome news and more potential shark-jumping moment.

1) They've already established that superpowers are a thing.

2) We don't know yet if he'll have his powers; neither Black Canary have been given the Canary Cry.
 
I like this move.
 
I don't understand why Arrow would be as low key, barely science fiction as it was in the first season and then by season 3 have an incredible shrinking man. I mean, I would have embraced a more fantastical Arrow if that was what they'd originally created, but to me this is less awesome news and more potential shark-jumping moment.

Because it is the logical, smart, and right thing to do.

And if you think bringing Ray Palmer/The Atom to Live-Action for the first time ever is shark-jumping then clearly you have a blinded view of the landscape of comic book movies/TV.
 
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I had to look up Atom, and apparently he uses telephone lines as transportation? That's just crazy :woot:
 
couldn't really do that (atleast not as much) these days

it'd be like the in, the Matrix, with them always running around looking for a landline
 
Being a guy who's been following the Superman films for the last 11 years here, Routh being cast as the Atom is.....really bizarre for me. Especially since I thought he was really weak as Superman.
 
This time, though, he might actually have good material to work with.
 
Superman Returns had many problems, Brandon Routh was not one of them.

Maybe if the movie had been half-way decent people wouldn't think he was bad.

Could have put any actor in that movie and they would have come out looking the same way.
 

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