Brian Michael Bendis is takeing over Marvel!

CantThinkOfAName said:
Ed Brubaker's Captain America wasnt nominated for an Eisner because its not really Brubaker's best work. Sure, its really good but then its still no Catwoman, Gotham Central, Sleeper...maybe its on Batman level. I dont know if he was nominated for that stuff but he should have been. Hey, who know, maybe next year with Daredevil and Criminal.

It also wasnt nominated because it's Captain America, and no matter how good the book is written, Captain America still blows.:mad:

See, you need to get your facts straight. Captain America wasn't SUBMITTED by Marvel. It wasn't nominated because it wasn't SUBMITTED, not because of your made up reasons. Seriously, the next time you want to post, don't embarrass yourself by not knowing your facts.
 
Sin Eater said:
See, you need to get your facts straight. Captain America wasn't SUBMITTED by Marvel. It wasn't nominated because it wasn't SUBMITTED, not because of your made up reasons. Seriously, the next time you want to post, don't embarrass yourself by not knowing your facts.
My reasons still stand. Marvel just made the judgement call so the award committee wouldnt have to. Even they knew it wasnt as good as his DC work:o
 
Not Jake said:
You guys need to shut up. Seriously. Yes, Bendis and Millar are Marvel ringleaders, just like Johns and Morrison are kind of head-DCers. Bendis and Johns have both written at least a book too many in the last two years. They're stretched thin. But you can't blame everything on a single guy.

Here's what I'm questioning: How can you say Dan Slott is being sucked into Bendis's writing tone?:rolleyes: Because Dan Slott should be writing light-hearted books all the time?:rolleyes: He wrote an Arkham Asylum book for DC. Was that Bendis' fault too:rolleyes: Joey Q said something to the effect of "Dan just pitched an idea and everyone likes it". Okay, that isn't "Bendis pitched an idea and Slott is gonna write it". Okay? Okay. Sometimes I just want to stick fiery coals up you guys' asses, and then fill your burnt ass with maggots covered in salt.

Jake why would you want to stick anything up a guys ass?
 
Sin Eater said:
Yep, that's exactly right. Bendis doesn't know these characters and just tries to come up with his own versions of them. If he does do research, then he doesn't retain information very well. His "write for the trade" has hurt the monthly issue more than anything he has done has helped comics.

Dan Slott obviously sees that being on the Bendis "team" will benefit his career, as he has a forum at Bendis' website and now goes to the Marvel retreats, and really, who can blame him for it. Make no mistake, getting Bendis to approve his pitch was what got his pitch greenlit, because that's how Marvel works these days.

You're accusing people of not having correct information, and you're not exactly a budding example of it either here, Mr. Sin Eater.

Where has it said that Dan Slott was on the Bendis "team". I believe that the other post in the Marvel forums had Dan Slott revealing that he was greenlit a new project for the end of this year, beginning of next year, and that it wouldn't be like his current run of books on Marvel, with a light hearted and fun tone to the book.

He's had a forum on Bendis' site for QUITE sometime. And Dan Slott is also a poster on THIS message forum as well. And I'm sure he's going to Marvel retreats because he's been proving himself as a great writer over the years with his Spider-Man/Human Torch miniseries, GLA miniseries, and his fantastic run on She-Hulk. I'm sure THAT had nothing to do with it.

And where in there did it say that Bendis, and Bendis alone, approved his pitch/idea? I believe it was Quesada that approved it, with the other writers/artists really getting BEHIND the idea.

If you want to make it look like Dan Slott is riding the coat tails of another writer to get ahead, hey, that's just fantastic and all that good stuff. But you really look ignorant by putting it that way, and it's also why a fair poster like Elijya had to get a little bit cross with you...ignorance is bliss, Mr. Sin Eater.

And Bendis is the only writer and Marvel is the only company that writes for the trade paper back, huh? I mean DC and other writers such as Geoff Johns and Frank Miller aren't writing for the trade paper back? Hmm? You know that the trade paper back is a trend, right? That it caught on because Marvel and DC...and other companies...can get they're graphic novels placed in BOOK STORES, instead of just COMIC BOOK STORES...which can bring new fans to the table and attract new readers to the comics. But, hey, you'd rather look at it in the negative light. Don't blame ya there, Mr. Sin Eater. But when you go bashing a writer for something, make sure he's the ONLY one who does it...and not the entire comic book industry who's just trying to do GOOD BUSINESS.
 
Darthphere said:
I wish I had the time and drive to actually come up with a percentage of time he was in costume in the comic book. I think it would be interesting.

Not sure how one would measure it per se but having nothing better to do i've done it on the basis of whether he appears in costume or not :

#26 yes #27 yes
#28 yes #29 yes
#30 yes #31 yes
#32 no #33 no
#34 yes #35 yes
#36 no #37 yes
#38 yes #39 no
#40 yes #41 yes
#42 yes #43 yes
#44 no #45 yes
#46 no #47 no
#48 no #49 yes
#50 yes #56 yes
#57 no #58 no
#59 yes #60 yes
#61 no #62 yes
#63 yes #64 no
#65 yes #66 yes
#67 no #68 yes
#69 yes #70 yes
#71 yes #72 no
#73 yes #74 yes
#75 yes #76 yes
#77 no #78 yes
#79 yes #80 yes
#81 no

51 issues in total didn't appear in costume in 16 issues in total which means he appeared in costume 68 % of the time or roughly 7 in 10.

Longest run out of costum was 3 issues in the hardcore arc (which oddly had the larges number of super villain fights).

:)
 
CantThinkOfAName said:
Bendis has rarely been the source of delays on his books.
New Avengers, Ultimate Spider-Man, and Secret War were plagued with delays. But true, Bendis is not the only source of delay's the artist is too.

And at most he writes five book at a time. Plenty of other writers do that, like Johns, Ellis, Morrison, Jenkins, and such.
Aren't Johns, Ellis, and Morrison also plagued with delayed books. :o
 
hippie_hunter said:
New Avengers, Ultimate Spider-Man, and Secret War were plagued with delays. But true, Bendis is not the only source of delay's the artist is too.


Aren't Johns, Ellis, and Morrison also plagued with delayed books. :o

Ultimate Spider-Man had delays? :confused:

The book comes out every 2 weeks. Heh. If that's a delay then I must be ******ed.

Secret War was delayed due to Dell'Otto. And New Avengers...who knows what is up with that book. But considering that Bendis writes like a madman his books are usually on time.

Daredevil was usually on time. Though Powers is off and on these days.

But, Bendis really has been stretching himself thin, in my eyes. Maybe he's not in his own eyes. But that's too many books to be writing at one time.
 
hippie_hunter said:
Aren't Johns, Ellis, and Morrison also plagued with delayed books. :o
Yep. Green Lantern's been delayed almost every month, Planetary has a new issue maybe twice a year, and Seven Soldiers #1 just got pushed back a couple of seasons from April to November. I'm fairly sure GL's the fault of the artists, though, given that Johns works with very tardiness-prone artists like Carlos Pacheco and Ethan Van Sciver, and Planetary comes out so infrequently because it's kind of like Ellis and Cassaday's baby, so they go off and do their other projects and only return to Planetary when they can devote their full attention to it. I got nothing on Seven Soldiers, though. I don't read that.

It's sad, but it looks like tardiness is becoming the standard for the industry rather than the the exception. Seems like everyone'll have to adopt Joe Q's attitude of just shrugging and laughing it off if we intend to keep reading 'periodical' comics. :o
 
Seven Soldiers # 1 got pushed back to NOVERMBER?!?! What the hell!

Through that entire year of miniseries there weren't really too many delays for a project like that, and it's the last issue in the maxiseries that gets delayed....poopheads!
 
SpideyInATree said:
Ultimate Spider-Man had delays? :confused:

The book comes out every 2 weeks. Heh. If that's a delay then I must be ******ed.
For some reason, I remember reading about that book being delayed all the time. Maybe I just made that up. :confused:

Secret War was delayed due to Dell'Otto. And New Avengers...who knows what is up with that book. But considering that Bendis writes like a madman his books are usually on time.
I know Secret War was delayed due to the art, but New Avengers, that is because of Bendis in my opinion.

Daredevil was usually on time. Though Powers is off and on these days.
Hence why I didn't mention Daredevil, I knew that that book was on time usually.

But, Bendis really has been stretching himself thin, in my eyes. Maybe he's not in his own eyes. But that's too many books to be writing at one time.
Agreed.
 
USM was coming out twice a month for pretty much its entire run. I don't know if it's still doing so, but I've never heard of it having any serious problems with delays.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
USM was coming out twice a month for pretty much its entire run. I don't know if it's still doing so, but I've never heard of it having any serious problems with delays.
I'm still trying to figure out where the hell did I hear about delays about the book. I don't read Ultimate Marvel so I really couldn't confirm it myself.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
USM was coming out twice a month for pretty much its entire run. I don't know if it's still doing so, but I've never heard of it having any serious problems with delays.

Yeah, it's still coming out twice a month. And will continue to do so.

Though that's more Bagley's professionalism than Bendis, in my opinion.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Yeah, it's still coming out twice a month. And will continue to do so.

Though that's more Bagley's professionalism than Bendis, in my opinion.

surely its a combination of both?

(though I agree its more challenging for an artist to do two books in a month)

hippie_hunter said:
I know Secret War was delayed due to the art, but New Avengers, that is because of Bendis in my opinion.

Any rational reason why you'd think that?
Given that the books artists are always in flux and most have habits of being late and also the fact that he's got an issue coming out within a week of each other (with a different artist) suggests he's pretty much on top of the writing chores of that book.

Bendis is normally a 5-6 issues ahead of the artist.
 
gildea said:
surely its a combination of both?

(though I agree its more challenging for an artist to do two books in a month)

Possibly it's both. But Bendis is stretched VERY thin and if there were another artist besides Bags on the book, I bet there would be delays on the book.

Bagley is also ONLY doing Ultimate Spider-Man which helps immensely as well.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Possibly it's both. But Bendis is stretched VERY thin and if there were another artist besides Bags on the book, I bet there would be delays on the book.

but he's ALWAYS been ahead of bagley!!

Do you have any actualy evidence of bendis being slow on USM and bagley having to play "catch up" ? (not asking to be a **** I just may be missing something).
 
gildea said:
but he's ALWAYS been ahead of bagley!!

Do you have any actualy evidence of bendis being slow on USM and bagley having to play "catch up" ? (not asking to be a **** I just may be missing something).

That's not what I'm saying. You haven't read all those interviews with Bendis where he's constantly praising Bagley about how fast and well he works, and that without Bagley they wouldn't be able to put out a bi-weekly book?

I'm not saying Bendis is slow. But if your writing as many books as Bendis is...and you have an artist who is also stretched thin...you're not putting out a bi-weekly book.
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
What I remember from when I was reading Bendis' DD was that Matt spent very little time as Daredevil and I felt like DD could've been removed entirely and the story wouldn't have suffered much.


What parts did you read of it that made it seem that way to you?
 
SpideyInATree said:
That's not what I'm saying. You haven't read all those interviews with Bendis where he's constantly praising Bagley about how fast and well he works, and that without Bagley they wouldn't be able to put out a bi-weekly book?

Sorry I appear to have misconstrued what you've said it seemed to be a dig a bendis and the implication was that bagley was covering his ass. If this isn't the case I apologise :)

SpideyInATree said:
I'm not saying Bendis is slow. But if your writing as many books as Bendis is...and you have an artist who is also stretched thin...you're not putting out a bi-weekly book.


True but that again would be an art delay and not a script delay because as said bendis is always a good few issues ahead of his artists.

something else springs to mind (when bendis WAS responsible for delaying a book) :

hippie_hunter said:
I'm still trying to figure out where the hell did I hear about delays about the book. I don't read Ultimate Marvel so I really couldn't confirm it myself.

You may be thinking of the ultimate six mini. Bendis decided VERY late on he needed an extra issue to finish of the mini which caused a delay in getting the last issue (over a month I think).
 
I don't mind delays as much depending on the series. I prefer if Ellis and Cassaday take there time on Planetary, better to have an amazing issue next year than a crappy one next month. But for big event stories, everything needs to be on time just to keep the ball rolling.
 
gildea said:
Sorry I appear to have misconstrued what you've said it seemed to be a dig a bendis and the implication was that bagley was covering his ass. If this isn't the case I apologise :)

True but that again would be an art delay and not a script delay because as said bendis is always a good few issues ahead of his artists.

something else springs to mind (when bendis WAS responsible for delaying a book) :

You may be thinking of the ultimate six mini. Bendis decided VERY late on he needed an extra issue to finish of the mini which caused a delay in getting the last issue (over a month I think).

It's cool. I wasn't bashing Bendis. I was just pointing out how well rounded Bagley is as an artist to keep up such a pace for a bi-weekly book. While a writer could easily handle a bi-weekly book, an artist is going to be a different story, especially the artists of this day and age.

But Bags is a horse of a different color and, to me, the definitive Spider-Man artist of the modern era. You can easily toss him in the same mold as Ditko and Romita Sr.

And I think, hippie hunter may be thinking of the Ultimate Six mini. I do recall there being some heavy contreversey surrounding that book, and I also remember that's when some of the Bendis bashing really began full force.
 
gildea said:
Longest run out of costum was 3 issues in the hardcore arc (which oddly had the larges number of super villain fights).

:)



Wasn't that the arc where Matt carved the Bullseye in Bullseye's head? That part was badass.:up:
 
I don't mind lateness on Vertigo, MAX, Wildstorm Signature, etc. Those books generally don't follow the shared universe model anyway, so you're following one story in one book and that's it for that particularly continuity. But in mainstream books, where everything tries to be interconnected, lateness just breaks the whole flow of the shared world.

For example, I just read X-Factor and they haven't learned that Spider-Man is Peter Parker yet. It's a Civil War tie-in book, so clearly they're going to address the issue, but because the book has suffered the occasional delay it doesn't quite synch up. There are worse examples, but I just happened to have read X-Factor this morning so it was still on my mind.
Kool-Aid said:
What parts did you read of it that made it seem that way to you?
Um... I read part of the Echo arc, some stuff with Matt fighting ninjas in the street... I can't remember all of it off the top of my head. I only read DD for a short time, and it was a while ago. Daredevil's never really clicked with me for some reason.
 

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