Sequels Bryan Singer would love to return to X-Men universe

^ How do you know what part of the script he worked on?

I'm calling blind hate on Singer from you. Seems irrational that you praise the script from Hayter, but hate the parts Singer worked on, when you don't know who contributed where.
 
And I'm calling blind assumption on your part, as you have no idea what I have knowledge of. I have seen as many if not more interviews than you or most others in regaurds to the X-Men franchise and I have a pretty good grip on the parts that were played in the creation of this film. As a student of film I make it a priority to see how everything came together, so you can continue to ignorantly call me ignorant if you so choose, but its no hair off my back.
 
I agree, there were alot of people better suited for the role. Another thing that bothered me was the choice to give him scars all over his body instead of fur....Whats that all about? Please keep Singer away from any X-Projects, PLEASE GOD!

I don't think Singer was that bad. He at least has a sense of purpose and intelligence. His main problem is being too restrained, which is why most of the really memorable 'epic' action stuff is in X3 (Jean vs Xavier, GG Bridge) and Wolverine (chase scenes, Gambit fight, reactor tower fight). There's also an absence of visceral action in Superman Returns. He just doesn't do that kind of action very well.

I also didn't mind Nightcrawler having scars. Maybe a coating of fuzz was too hard to get right! But I agree the scene with Mystique looks more like sexual attraction than it hints at any family ties!

What Singer needs is an executive producer who's experienced at achieving epic action and at getting the most out of the budget, like Spielberg on Bay's TF.
 
^ It was more than just the scars to me Alan looked nothing like nightcrawler. Nightcrawler has very defined features and cumming has very soft ones. For someone in the circus, an acrobat at that, he should of been lean and ripped, alan just looked soft and like he hadn't developed a single muscle in his body.

I agree though that Singer was/is way too restrained, he missed out on what could of been two epic moments in X2. He could of had storm actually leave the X-Jet to create the tornados, seeing her in the air surrounded by them would have been crazy. And at the end of The movie right before the credits as we're zooming in Pheonix should have risen.

And Superman returns was just a mess.
 
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I love Singer's X-Films but at this point I don't really care if he wants to come back. It's too little, too late. X3 changed the direction of the series too much. There is never going to be an X4 and the only prequel he's cut out for is Magneto, which probably won't get made.
 
I don't know if someone has comment it, but I think Bryan Singer saw The Dark Knight and a part of him wants to do a sequel of the X-men as great as the Batman one.

Im sure his ego thinks he can do it, so maybe thats another reason for him wanting to return.

what do you think?
 
Doubt it... Death Head pretty much summed it up... too little, too late. The story is over for all intensive purposes. The cast has moved on. No point coming back. Now Magneto has a low budget, character driven, set piece is a different story. But I doubt he is thinking he can rival TDK with a project like that.
 
No the best bet we have at reviving the franchise is to make an R rated, balls to the wall Wolverine movie with a director who can show intense bloody action in ways that Singer and Gavin Hood never could.
 
I often think that Luc Bassion could film wolverine, Something about fast-action fighting with little story seems to suit wolverine better than a ragefull complex story.

I believe Singer could be the right match for X-Men Origins: Magneto... only because Magneto is going to be a movie about why Magneto wanted his war, considering Singer created the Magneto character of the X-Men Movie, he gave Magneto his direction, it only make sense to give singer a chance to tell why he chose that path...

The way i see it is like this,

Singer created the x-men movie universe - he planted the seeds and gave them purpose. Singer gave direction to characters like Magneto, Storm, Mystique, Iceman, Rogue. Cyclops and even Jean Grey.

However Wolverine and Xavier were characters defined by the actors that played them. So it would be natural to have Hugh Jackman be more involved in his solo movie because in the words of JD from Scrubs "But Hugh Jackman is Wolverine" - Same could be said about Patrick Stewart as he is Xavier.

But as for Magneto, although Sir Ian McKellan gave a magiciant performance as him. I wouldnt of said he was born to play the role. Dont get me wrong McKellan was a verson of Magneto at represented his very nature. But look at Magneto in the comics, hes always been more pressenceful... fearful.
 
Im 1000% sure there are some actors out there that could play Wolverine and would kill Hugh Jackmans version/performance.

Just because Hugh has played him doesnt mean he is the best. and He has Nothing to do with comic Logan, nothing.
 
Nah the way to making x4 is doable and fixing things from what was done in x3 is very doable,
If people understand these kinds of deaths in spy movies like the character of blow field in James bond among others and and spy shows on TV and in video games such as in the sci fi game Mass effect - Mass effect 2 where most people are claiming the main hero was killed with in the story. there shouldn't be a problem here. Seriously if they ( the audience )get it in these things/ other mediums,

"Then they'll get this." Only the narrow minded are making this an issue here. And no I'm not dissing you guys. but stop thinking like those at fox do. It's freaking sci -fi there was no body to claim Scott dead. he can f'ing come back.

Most animals with good smelling sense loose track of a sent over large bodies of water. and they showed int he comic's many times that ones a person / character is unconscious or in a coma far away from telepath they can't sense them. period. they can't tell if their alive or dead if that person they are looking for is in that kind of state. They are not life sign detectors as was stated and showed in the comics so many times before the first movie of x-Men came out. so drop that bs.

Jean has the name of "phoenix" there's no point to having the f'ing name with out living up to the name sake. Xavier has been resolved already. still could have been done better . But it has been.

and despite what death head and fat tony say a good lot of the cast members keep saying they'd come back. But i just don't want it under fox and singer anymore period. their creating this limited narrow thinking. cast members stated in an inter view they left things open enough to do an X4.

The more I see guys like tony and death head say these things the more I want a reboot. away from fox where even if it... this sorta thing went down it'll be fixable cause they will have good Explanation and done with actual good script writers for a change.

As to another wolverine movie I'm sorry Ol'Canucklehead, I'm sick of him way too much of him. let him stay in his own movies from now on. now that he has the movie titles. and it makes sense for him to overshadow every one else, but only in that sort of movie making . I don't want to see him in x-Men ever again for the next 20 years. By then I'll be too old and senile to care and very happy not to care. right I'm young and i'm tired of this crap. if i get old enough and this is still happening just before I do go senile i'll send a hit man and hehehehe . seriously enough is enough.

I want a freaking reboot. The freaking x-universe doesn't revolve a around him(wolverine) god damn it. again I was cool with the actors. well not marsden. but the other I'm ok with.

And I'm sorry the script's weren't all that they should have been. I like David hayter but he could have done better.

No this franchise needs better script writers most importantly. A new director that actually was a fan of the comic's. not one that claims to be one after just getting the job, and got a very bad info through a mix of different universe titles with the marvel company. and to be not under the narrow minded thinking of fox producers and executives ruining all that don't want to spend enough money to make the movie great so they keep making unnecessary changes to both characters, costumes, sfx, and story to save money the latter part is the most twisted of all on why they did that for money purposes. blech.


They must get away from fox. Now.
 
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I'm not a fan of singers movies, I always find them...bland. I would like someone inbetween Singer and Ratner...not so over the top that ratner had, and well, not so bland like Singer had. Someone that would focus more on developing a smaller a mount of characters, but really fleshing them out.
 
I'm not a fan of singers movies, I always find them...bland. I would like someone inbetween Singer and Ratner...not so over the top that ratner had, and well, not so bland like Singer had. Someone that would focus more on developing a smaller a mount of characters, but really fleshing them out.
Same.
 
i agree with both of you. if we had a director who had singer's storytelling talents and ratners action, it'd be an awesome x-men movie.
 
Singer needs to stay away from superheroes. He doesn't have the imagination to do a good superhero movie. His X-Men films were good, but only as science fiction films, as X-Men films they failed terribly.

And the less said about Superman Returns the better.
 
They should give Singer a lowly X-Man character to develop in a spin-off with a tight budget, and if he redeems himself then grant him XFC
 
Singer returning the make X4 would just be the perfect news for someone like me who thought X3 was one of the worst movies ever made. One thing you know with Singer is that he'll argure points with Fox and he will make you care about the characters in the movie.

A lot of X3 could be ret-conned with an X4 and not to mention we could get a new villain. Loved Magneto in the first 2 movies but hated how he was written in X3 so its time to bring someone else in now IMO. Sinister and especially Apocalypse would be great.
 
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I'm sorry but his "tweaks", "minor script changes", and "designs" were the worst part of the films. If he had left it alone as it had been written it probably would have been a lot better......and Magneto's helmet sucked by the way.

As a long time follower of this franchise, I'm curious to hear which parts were Bryan's "tweaks", "minor script changes", and "design" and what made them so bad in the first place. I'm also all ears when it comes to how they were originally laid out in the first place before Bryan Singer "ruined" them...

:o I mean just about anyone could lay claim to having intimate knowlegde of the production.
 
A lot of X3 could be ret-conned with an X4 and not to mention we could get a new villain. Loved Magneto in the first 2 movies but hated how he was written in X3 so its time to bring someone else in now IMO. Sinister and especially Apocalypse would be great.

I think you've got to be careful with all this retconning.

I'm inclined to think Jean and Cyclops should stay dead. Cyclops will hopefully get to shine in First Class (and any subseqent sequels, they're probably aiming for a trilogy).

I also think Xavier should stay out of the picture in an X4, maybe appearing in an X5.

Magneto should be omitted from X4 or, if he has to be there, he could be a teacher at the school. Both he and Storm hated the idea of the cure, it could produce an interesting dynamic, as they dealt with it very differently.

I'd like to have seen Emma Frost, but as she was rescued by Xavier in Wolverine, she's likely to be in First Class.

X4 Villains: Sinister or Apocalypse or Hellfire Club

For X5: Shadow King or Proteus...(allows Xavier to return to the fray)

Singer would be fine, but would prefer adding a good executive producer more experienced at action and at making maximum use of the budget without frittering it away. Singer's budgetary control appears a little lax at times but just look what exec producing by Jackson got out of the District 9 budget and what exec producing by Spielberg got out of the Transformers budget.
 
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I must admit, there was one thing I'm iffy on with Singer... he often changed characters into what they weren't ie. Rogue from sexy southern belle to a faux Jubilee and even his plan to make Emma Xavier's age, an Empath and his lover... sounds like Amelia Voght with new powers... sometimes it works, but you can't help but wonder what it'd be like if the characterizations were more remnisent of the originals
 
I think you've got to be careful with all this retconning.

I'm inclined to think Jean and Cyclops should stay dead.

I also think Xavier should stay out of the picture in an X4, maybe appearing in an X5.

Magneto should be omitted from X4 or, if he has to be there, he could be a teacher at the school. Both he and Storm hated the idea of the cure, it could produce an interesting dynamic, as they dealt with it very differently.

If Cyclops doesn't return I will stay away from this series for good.

This is a sequel to X3 and it would be odd for them to completely ignore the Xavier storyline they set up

Magneto does have to be involved in some capacity but not as a teacher in the school.
 

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