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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Animated Series

Go **** yourself and your Dollhouse, I'm not talking about that show, it was lame. I'm talking about the little bull**** game they played with Firefly.
Yeah, Firefly was a great show and one of the most disappointing cancellations of all time. That show had stories to last 4-5 years.

Dollhouse probably only got a second season out of guilt for cancelling Firefly.
 
I'm surpised no-one in here has mentioned the animated Season 8 thing that's being made.
 
The motion comic? I hate those... I watched the trailer for it and the voices just sounded lame. At least with the animated series, they had most of the cast from the actual show and the one playing Buffy sounded almost identical to SMG, but the motion comic people (especially Xander) just sounded lame.
 
Joss Whedon seems to have such terrible luck with TV shows.

Not really. Buffy was highly critically acclaimed, completed a seven year run at the decision of the writers and Joss, not the network, has a huge following of fans to this day, and sparked a great deal of academic study into the literary and psychological merits of the series and as a result of that television shows in general. It's really difficult to get any one of those things when making a TV show, let alone all of them. I'd say Joss has had enormous success with television. The fact simply is that making a TV show that stays on the air is ridiculously difficult.
 
So if one has success with a single show, then they can be said to have success with all their shows?
 
So if one has success with a single show, then they can be said to have success with all their shows?

No. But that's not what I was saying or implying. I said that he has been incredibly lucky with television. He had a show that lasted seven seasons, ended when he wanted to end it, was critically acclaimed, has a huge fan base that continues to this day, and sparked academic study into it and other shows as a result. All of those things are incredibly difficult to achieve on their own and he achieved all of them. Angel, also, lasted five seasons, which is a good run all things considered, even though he wanted to go longer. The fact that two other shows were cancelled and a third didn't get picked up at all doesn't mean he had bad luck in television, because getting a show off the ground in the first place is incredibly difficult in the world of television. The fact that he created four shows that got on the air, two of them lasted five seasons or more, and one of them had the success that Buffy did, shows that he had actually had a great deal of luck in the industry.
 
Plus succeeding in tvland today is a lot harder than it was back in the 90s. Though I think Joss would probably have more success working with TheCW since his type of shows just dont fit big networks.
 
I guess my point was that Firefly was deserving of being a hit, but various circumstances prevented this from happening. Angel was in it's prime when it got cancelled, and no-one quite understands why.
 
Because TheWB got cheap and didnt want to hand over the budget to produce the show. Plus Buffy was off air so it lost a litle of its publicity.
 
I think David Fury or someone else on the writing staff said something to the effect of Joss wanting to know whether the show would get another year long before the upfronts in May and the network took issue with that and ended it. i'm sure theres a bunch of stuff that I'm missing in that story, but that's basically what I got from it. I'll try to find a link.
 

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