Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 33

[Donut]

The main thing about Wolverine is Hugh Jackman. Try naming an actress that can do for Storm that Hugh Jackman does for Wolverine. Someone that brings in both the guys & girls. Everybody loves Hugh Jackman. You can't really. Hugh Jackman is literally in a league of his own with these movies

 

[TeeKay]

You forgot Apocalypse

I meant 2014 and 2015. I should have been more specific.

Agreed. This either or or which is better crap needs to go. I want it all to be good. It is not like you are choosing between the Nazis and the Allied forces. It is not that serious.

However, I am not blind and Fox is clearly in a rebuilding state with their CBMs and still trying to rebuild the goodwill lost with X3 and Origins. Fox has had a lot of past casting and storyline mistakes that it needs to address with X-men and FF going forward if it wants Marvel to overwhelm them. But Fox needs to do what works for X-Men and FF and not try to copy another studio. I'm not sure what DC is doing, but then I don't think they know either at this point. LOL!

Let's not go there.

 

[Snikt]

Danyose! We need you now lol

 

[TeeKay]

And in 2016: Superman vs. Batman, Captain America 3, X-Men: Apocalypse and The Amazing Spider-Man 3.

I'm already preparing my body.

I walked into TASM2 and Cap 2 thinking my body was ready, turns out it wasn't. It's best to be prepared for these sort of things. Your head will explode because of all the epicness, especially if all those moves end up blowing you away. Can't wait!!t:

 

[Rike]

Although I don't fully agree that ALL of Fox's interpretations are boring and underdeveloped, you're definitely right about MS's heroes.

A great example is X-men 3. They threw in way too many mutants just as fan wank material. A number of the mutants that I guess were supposed to be considered Morlocks, in a way, they were shoved in for only a scene or two. Psylocke is a great example, she didn't really do a damn thing so why bother putting her in, especially when she's not recognizable and didn't even seem to display her actual powers from the comics. In most cases with MS films, the characters in them are for more of a purpose.

The people who I noticed are laughing or mocking this post of yours are biased and will always trash MS's films to justify their love of Fox's franchise.

I like both and don't get the whole "my" franchise is better than yours from the fans.

Oh I always trash MS and I have a serious case of unconditional love for Fox.



You don't even know me and I have no idea of who are you.

 

[Figs]

You don't even know me and I have no idea of who are you.

I don't need to know you personally, I see enough of your posts.

It's the fact that you responded to that one poster's post with not one but two ROFL emoticons when he had a valid opinion.

 

[danoyse]

Bloody hell, I take one afternoon to go into the city with my mom to see a Broadway show...and this place turns into a 'my franchise is better than yours' gripefest.

1. This is not the Fantastic Four forum. Take that discussion there, please.

2. This is not the 'my franchise is better than yours' forum. Whichever you like, good for you. Express this without the lecturing, putting down the one you don't like, being outright obnoxious to fans of another franchise, and without the ongoing eyeroll smilies.

3. All signs point to the trailer arriving on 3/24. Constantly complaining about it there is not going to make it get here any faster. Go outside or something.

Let's play nice with everyone, folks.

 

[Rike]

I don't need to know you personally, I see enough of your posts.

It's the fact that you responded to that one poster's post with not one but two ROFL emoticons when he had a valid opinion.

So that makes me a Fox-lover and a MS-basher?

 

[Figs]

So that makes me a Fox-lover and a MS-basher?

Well, it looked like it to me. Why would you put two laughing emotions after his post. His post was pretty damn true.

 

[danoyse]

Guys...break it up, please.

 

[Figs]

Guys...break it up, please.

That last post of mine was before I saw your recent one. Sorry. I didn't think we were in a flame war of any kind but I'll let it go danoyse.

 

[TeeKay]

It's been fun guys, but I gotta go to sleep. Good night y'all.t:

 

[danagirl42]

The main thing about Wolverine is Hugh Jackman. Try naming an actress that can do for Storm that Hugh Jackman does for Wolverine. Someone that brings in both the guys & girls. Everybody loves Hugh Jackman. You can't really. Hugh Jackman is literally in a league of his own with these movies

Then they need to go with someone unknown. Jackman was unknown when he was wolverine. Fox needs to do some wide auditions and really look for people who fit the role and can act the hell out of it.

Now that might end up being someone who is somewhat known, but I am tired of what I call, "IMDB forum casting" which is the same uninspired popular 10 actors being bought up every time there is a big budget sci-fi or CMB or fantasy type movie. Or worst, the so-n-so looks like the character. Meanwhile the person can't act their way out of a paper bag, but that is okay because they look like the character. You can mold someone into a character's look, but if they can't act it out, then what is the point?

 

[Rike]

Well, it looked like it to me. Why would you put two laughing emotions after his post. His post was pretty damn true.

Now you nailed it!
What seems true to you may not seem to others, and that poster was trying to declare his opinion as a fact.

 

[Snikt]

Guys...break it up, please.

Thank God you're back! It's pandemonium on these boards

 

[Malik]

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

Heh.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

It's not a fact, it's an opinion.

I disagree with your statement on the avengers. I think X2 gave storm some good development as did x1 for rogue and x3 for Jean in regards to the films. The avengers have all had individual films. Take them away and there was no development in that film for each individual character really in my opinion e.g hawkeye

Bingo.

None of X-Men characters had so much great lines and interaction scenes in their group movies as Avengers had.

Yes. They have. The interactions & dialogue between Xavier & Magneto alone trump most CBMs

You damn well know why people are against that film. It isn't just a Fox thing like you wanna make it out to be.

I'd agree if the hate started after the castings, but it was long before that. It all stems from them not being in the MCU.

and what does it matter the sales?

his movies hasnt even reach 500 millions, being that popular and beloved by "the whole world"

It doenst matter his sales, what matter is the boxoffice, and his latest movie is the lowest of the whole franchise, and he is Hugh Jackman, that to me speaks volumes.

Domestically. Internationally his was the second highest grossing X-Men movie.

And in 2016: Superman vs. Batman, Captain America 3, X-Men: Apocalypse and The Amazing Spider-Man 3.

It's funny, other than BvS those are all sequels to this years line-up.

People have their reasons, don't go to those boards. Just stay out of it. I dislike the direction WB/DC is taking Batman vs Superman and have voiced my opinion and participated in flamewars and got infracted at those boards, I just don't go there anymore because I have no interest. You should do the same, stay out of it. Just my advice. Also it goes both ways too, I've seen people here taking potshots at the MCU films and DC films too, 2 sides of the same coin. It's just how it is.

Therein lies the problem with that section. If you are not Anti-the movie you can't post in their long before being chased away with torches and pitchforks.

The haters rule to roost and the mods allow it. If you went into any other section and posted how you wanted the movie to flop and that the actors careers to die and so forth you'd rightly be reprimanded because that isn't productive discussion.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

How many time we have to say Charles is the main character?

They've said in many interviews that Charles is the character who changes the most and has the biggest arc, true.

But then if I remember right they also mentioned that he's not necessarily the character with the most lines or screentime.

 

[JP]

He's still the main character of the ensemble.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

Yeah, but what they're saying seems to imply that some character(s) of the ensemble have more lines and screentime.

I suppose it's kinda inevitable considering that Charles, even with the full use of his legs, is not going to be the character who carries the film's big action scenes.

Was interesting to read the comment about DoFP playing well to women. That might be the case, but I wonder if they're actually going to market it to women. That theme of a personal journey really came through strong in, say, the Avatar trailer with Sam Worthington's character which was like an immediate emotional hook, but that movie also didn't have a gazillion characters to fit into two minutes.

 

[KidxMikexMcfly]

I hope not either, I just want the trailer to have action and leave the audience wanting more

 

[Donut]

Then they need to go with someone unknown. Jackman was unknown when he was wolverine. Fox needs to do some wide auditions and really look for people who fit the role and can act the hell out of it.

Now that might end up being someone who is somewhat known, but I am tired of what I call, "IMDB forum casting" which is the same uninspired popular 10 actors being bought up every time there is a big budget sci-fi or CMB or fantasy type movie. Or worst, the so-n-so looks like the character. Meanwhile the person can't act their way out of a paper bag, but that is okay because they look like the character. You can mold someone into a character's look, but if they can't act it out, then what is the point?

FOX is not the same FOX that took their time & found the right people (for the most part). That is clear these days with a certain other property

 

[marvelrobbins]

FOX is not the same FOX that took their time & found the right people (for the most part). That is clear these days with a certain other property

That film Is based more on the ultimate version.

If you think first anoucements of X-Men casting went over great you are wrong.

People Including Me were puzzled by Anna Paquin's casting as rogue thinking her as little girl from the Piano even though she did win oscar. And despite what people now tell she won over many In actual film.

While there were always those supporting Ian Mckellen's casting as Magneto there were those who said he was too old.

Let's remember Doughary Scott was originally cast as wolverine. Could you Imagine today what would happen If a superhero film replaced their lead actor during filming. Just imagine the headlines. Hugh Jackman was total unknown when he got the job of playing wolverine. Almost none of leads In most comic book films were as unknown as Hugh was.

Using their have to look exactly like the comic version test both james Mcavoy and Peter Dinklage would fail. James because he has played Xavier with hair In 2 films and Peter because he Is dwarf.

 

[Melapi]

and what does it matter the sales?

his movies hasnt even reach 500 millions, being that popular and beloved by "the whole world"

It doenst matter his sales, what matter is the boxoffice, and his latest movie is the lowest of the whole franchise, and he is Hugh Jackman, that to me speaks volumes.

Some fans keep naming FC, but that was the first movie of a new cast. The Wolverine is Hugh 5 movie, totally different cases. And I know the foreign numbers, but thats a normal progression. USA case is just the real issue here.

Numbers say other thing:
The Wolverine. Budget 120, domestic 132, WW 414.
FC. Budget 160, domestic 146, WW 353
Don't forget that it's not only the box office, it's also the budget diference of 40 millions. Yes it's true that domesticaly TW made less money than FC, but it was able to make money in the US while FC needed the international market to cover its budget, so the quote "is the lowest of the whole franchise" doesn't really make sense once you see the whole picture. Hugh Jackman with just his name, the bad press from Wolverine Origins and the initial reports that the movie was bombed made better numbers than FC, even in the US.

Anyway, the first ever movie of X-men made a domestic box office of 243.000.000 and FC made just 151.000.000 (adjusted price inflation in both cases) also with a much bigger budget than X-Men. Both of them were the first movie of a trilogy with a new cast.

The true it's that FC underperformed when you campare the movie with The Wolverine or any other movie.

I found the numbers in boxofficemojo, I asume they're right.