Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 33

[universeman]

May I say something about the casting choices? Don't judge a book by it's cover! anyone agree?​

 

[marvelrobbins]

May I say something about the casting choices? Don't judge a book by it's cover! anyone agree?​

Agreed.Look at first X-Men as I pointed out.

Batman-Michael Keaton,Heath Ledger,and Anne hathaway Is more examples.

Outside of comic book films Daniel Craig as James Bond says hello.

 

[danagirl42]

May I say something about the casting choices? Don't judge a book by it's cover! anyone agree?​

I agree. This looks or popularity or awards over talent/right fit for the character has lead to more miscasts in various movies than the law allows. When I see people arguing about hair color/style or someone is not buff enough, but no mention of whether they are talented or have enough range for the role or screen presence/charisma, I cringe so much. You can dye hair and go to the gym, the other things are not so easy to fix.

 

[marvelrobbins]

X-Men-Budget 75 Million
Domestic gross-157 million
opening weekend-54 million
Domestic adjusted for inflation or what it's gross would be In 2014
dollars-243 Million
Overseas-139 Million

X2-Budget 110 Million
Domestic gross-214 Million
opening weekend-85 Million
domestic adjusted for inflation-297 Million
Overseas-192 Million

As we go see X2 beat X-Men on every level

X-Men the Last Stand-Budget 210 Million
Domestic Gross-234 Million
opening weekend-102 Million
Domestic adjusted for inflation-298 Million
overseas-225 Million

Despite mixed reaction from fans and critics Last stand Is high of franchise at box office

X-Men origins:Wolverine-Budget 150 Million
Domestic gross-179 million
opening weekend-85 Million
Domestic adjusted for inflation-201 Million
overseas-193 Million

So despite being leaked on Internet,mixed reaction to Last stand,and negative response from fans and critics Hugh Jackman was still able to make origins a success

X-Men first Class-Budget 160 Million
Domestic gross-146 Million
opening weekend-55 Million
Domestic Adjusted for Inflation-151 Million
Overseas-207 Million

With no stars from other films In leading roles and second highest budget In series FC suffered Domesticly. It's overseas numbers which made it a hit.

The Wolverine-Budget 120 Million
Domestic Gross-132 Million
opening weekend-53 Million
Domestic Adjusted for Inflation-141 Million
overseas-282 Million

at first glance The wolverine looks like a disappointment. But,it had to deal with fallout from Origins with both critics and some online not letting that film go. It had lowest budget In series since X2. Just like when you adjust there Is only 1 million different between X2 and last Stand domesticly the difference between FC and the Wolverine domesticly Is 10 million. And the wolverine cost 40 million less. And film did great business overseas. And money made for the wolverine was on the appeal of Hugh jackman. With a better release date and promation like there was for origins maybe the wolverine would have done better domesticly.

X-Men Days of future past has a 225 Million budget. Besides Hugh as wolverine you have Patrick Stewart and Ian Mckellen returning In non-cameo roles for first time since last stand. Plus other vets from trilogy most noticble Ellen Page and Halle Berry. Add to that surving 4 main cast from FC Including it girl Jennifer Lawrence.

DOFP has poential domesticly to get back to 200 Million dollor range domesticly. Possibly close to what adjusted grosses of X2 and last Stand. Maybe only around 250 Million. Maybe the highest domestic gross of X-Men films.

Meanwhile It has excellent chance of going over 300 Million overseas for first time for X-Men film. Hugh alone was able to get the Wolverine to 282 million overseas. Just imagine having him In full X-Men film again can do.

 

[Loki882]

The Wolverine is also the second-highest grossing X-Men movie ever. It made enough that Fox started talking to James Mangold about coming back for a third movie even before TW left theatres.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The wolverine was still the first movie to go 3D which would put up the ticket prices up automatically and if you watch the wolverine there isn't any reason to have it in 3D there was the train scene and that's about it but that's why a lot of movies are 3D these days as it beneficial to the box office, so to compare it to other non 3D X-men movies is kinda hard, if you take away the benefit of the 3D % then how would it have done at the box office, I know it wouldn't have flopped because the budget was pretty small

 

[marvelrobbins]

There Is also the 3-d factor but the Wolverine had to deal with a late july release date. And the fact It was hard to promate it like Origins was. Many franchise films released In 3-d have far more promation like merchandize than The wolverine had. It only had Hugh jackman to promate it. And it was still good enough to become second highest grossing film worldwide In series.

 

[xrs13]

I always just consider the fact that the total money made for the film at the box office is only 40/50% of the total income for the film. So I dont really care about box office totals, provided its made more than it cost to make.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The studios care about box office totals.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Also consider the fact with no merchandize to promate the films the X-Men films make it's money with Box office take and DVD/Blu-Ray sales. You could add Itunes sales to that too.
I did like the fact Is those with only DVD players like me could pay the extended version of the wolverine on Itunes and could see It officialy without a Blu-Ray player.

 

[Angamb]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

I am sure they are crying into their bags of money about that

 

[Iceman]

There Is also the 3-d factor but the Wolverine had to deal with a late july release date. And the fact It was hard to promate it like Origins was. Many franchise films released In 3-d have far more promation like merchandize than The wolverine had. It only had Hugh jackman to promate it. And it was still good enough to become second highest grossing film worldwide In series.

Worth noting that the overseas market has grown ridiculously since X1 also.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah you almost can't compare overseas numbers now to those in the past because it's a whole different other world.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Overseas Is bigger for so many films nowadays.

Star Trek Into Darkness was bigger overseas. Iron Man 3 did nearly 600 million worldwide. Which got it to 1 Billion world wide. Thor the Dark World did double what It did domesticly.

Both Spider-man 3 and The amazing Spider-man did better overseas than Domesticly.

The X-Men films since Origins have been doing better overseas than Domesticly.

I wouldn't be surprised if temple In China and casting of chinese actress as Blink may be trying to get China to allow DOFP Into Chinese Marketplace.

 

[xrs13]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

Do you mean popularity in comparison to IM3 and MoS? Because A lot of people thought Wolverine won the cbm fight last year

 

[marvelrobbins]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

And why Is it only you,when we obeyed moderater to end the my franchise is better than yours talk,keeps bringing it up to sell other heroes are better than
Wolverine

The fact they announced another solo film so quickly and beguin talks with both Hugh jackman and james Mangold says everything how they view the wolverine. No studio announces followup so quickly to film If they didn't get money from film.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Do you mean popularity in comparison to IM3 and MoS? Because A lot of people thought Wolverine won the cbm fight last year

He apparently think box office Is all that matters

 

[Angamb]

Do you mean popularity in comparison to IM3 and MoS? Because A lot of people thought Wolverine won the cbm fight last year

no, I was meaning about both Wolverine movies doing poor numbers taking into account being more popular than Ironman and Thor.

 

[danagirl42]

The studios care about box office totals.

Thank you. And they don't spend hundreds of millions on a production budget and then another 100 million on advertising to make a profit of a few million. Anything below 600 million is a disappointment or underperformance. Look Paramount and the last Star Trek movie's underperformance and how it could not get anywhere near $500 million despite good critical reviews, a $200 million budget, $100 in marketing and it is a brand know to the general audiences. I thought it would do much better than that at the box-office.

But what is that saying? If it does not make any money, then it does make any sense (cents) to them.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

This sentence is stupid.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Thank you. And they don't spend hundreds of millions on a production budget and then another 100 million on advertising to make a profit of a few million. Anything below 600 million is a disappointment or underperformance. Look Paramount and the last Star Trek movie's underperformance and how it could not get anywhere near $500 million despite good critical reviews, a $200 million budget, $100 in marketing and it is a brand know to the general audiences. I thought it would do much better than that at the box-office.

But what is that saying? If it does not make any money, then it does make any sense (cents) to them.

Under 600mil is a disappointment if a lot of money is spent on making a marketing a film of course. I'm still surprised at how realitively poor Into Darkness did. I think the marketing is in part to blame for the disappointing opening weekend. I'm doing a 20/20 hindsight evaluation of Into Darkness of course.

It just goes to show you that good reviews alone can't save your film. And that's a point I have made about the X-Films as well. Good reviews alone will not guarantee Days of Future Past a huge gross, Fox still has to market it right and market it well in April and all of May. They did not do a good job with First Class and The Wolverine so we shall see if they continue down that path or not.

 

[SuperT]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

...what does this sentence even mean? I'm sure Fox is happy it's the second highest grossing X-movie.

 

[danoyse]

I wonder if Fox is happy with Wolverine being the lowest popular solo heroe of the lastest years.

So depressed they're making another sequel...

 

[Sun_Down]

The main thing about Wolverine is Hugh Jackman. Try naming an actress that can do for Storm that Hugh Jackman does for Wolverine. Someone that brings in both the guys & girls. Everybody loves Hugh Jackman. You can't really. Hugh Jackman is literally in a league of his own with these movies

Not only that, but he clearly loves the franchise and keeps coming back for more. You see a lot of whining about Wolverine fatigue, when we should be thankful that we have such great continuity with a key character.

So depressed they're making another sequel...

Seriously, $400m worldwide still pays the bills.