Don't flame me for being a Noob! but...
Looking at past superhero Franchises, certain patterns do emerge: Let's outline it:
First Movie: Wonderful Classic, most beloved of the Franchise
Second Movie: Considered not quite as Classic, but usually features a more powerful villain than the first and comics fans tend to like it better.
Third Movie: Usually illicits mixed emotions. Some Like it, Some hate it, Some agree that there's moments good and bad, but a general sense that the franchise isn't what it once was.
Fourth Movie: Complete abomination that ruins the the franchise and bombs.
Fifth movie: After a Long hiatus, Franchise is looking for redemption and renewal.
Only Superman and Batman have followed this pattern all the way through. But I think most would agree that my outline fits those 2 franchises pretty well.
X-men has followed that pattern through the third movie. I'm not hear to say that movie was good or bad. But, I think all can agree that there was a big division amongst fans over that one and it's merits. Some liked it, some didn't. and that fits the third movie pattern.
I haven't personally seen the blade films. But, talking to people who have, they tend to feel about that series progression about how I outlined. But again, I don't really know.
The point is, third movies tend to be turning points. I don't want to say they're "jump the shark" points, but they do usually mark the point that the franchise crests, and may be on it's way down.
Now, I wouldn't be worried about Spidey 3, but the first two films in the franchise have fit the pattern to a T. First is classic, second is embraced more by fans. So do we have to worry about Spidey 3?
Well, one thing working for Spidey is that he doesn't suffer a major change in director or behind the scenes, like most films do by their third movie. Superman III was all Lester, (where as 2 was half lest half donner,) Batman changed over of Schumacker, and X-men went to Bret Ratner. Changes behind the camera can have a major effect on the creative vision, and Spidey fortunately gets to keep Raimi, as well as Tobey.
True, I could comment that the film is seeming a bit, "stuffed," with 3 villains, many new supporting characters, and the odd need to immediatly drive Pete and Mary Jane apart after spending 2 complete movies bringing them together. Part of Batman and Robin's Problem was that it tried to use so many different story threads, (Bruce Being engaged, Alfred Dying, Dick Grayson becoming estranged, Mr. Freezes's story, Poison Ivy's story, the oridgin of Bane,) that it done none very well. I just wanted to mention that.
But, in the end, I think Spidey 3 is shaping up to be the best 3rd entry of a Superhero franchise ever. I mean, c'mon! they're using the cartoon version fo the symbiote story, how cool is that? But, I wouldn't say we're completely out of the woods.
Okay, now you can flame me for being a noob. Don't worry. This aint my first rodeo.
Looking at past superhero Franchises, certain patterns do emerge: Let's outline it:
First Movie: Wonderful Classic, most beloved of the Franchise
Second Movie: Considered not quite as Classic, but usually features a more powerful villain than the first and comics fans tend to like it better.
Third Movie: Usually illicits mixed emotions. Some Like it, Some hate it, Some agree that there's moments good and bad, but a general sense that the franchise isn't what it once was.
Fourth Movie: Complete abomination that ruins the the franchise and bombs.
Fifth movie: After a Long hiatus, Franchise is looking for redemption and renewal.
Only Superman and Batman have followed this pattern all the way through. But I think most would agree that my outline fits those 2 franchises pretty well.
X-men has followed that pattern through the third movie. I'm not hear to say that movie was good or bad. But, I think all can agree that there was a big division amongst fans over that one and it's merits. Some liked it, some didn't. and that fits the third movie pattern.
I haven't personally seen the blade films. But, talking to people who have, they tend to feel about that series progression about how I outlined. But again, I don't really know.
The point is, third movies tend to be turning points. I don't want to say they're "jump the shark" points, but they do usually mark the point that the franchise crests, and may be on it's way down.
Now, I wouldn't be worried about Spidey 3, but the first two films in the franchise have fit the pattern to a T. First is classic, second is embraced more by fans. So do we have to worry about Spidey 3?
Well, one thing working for Spidey is that he doesn't suffer a major change in director or behind the scenes, like most films do by their third movie. Superman III was all Lester, (where as 2 was half lest half donner,) Batman changed over of Schumacker, and X-men went to Bret Ratner. Changes behind the camera can have a major effect on the creative vision, and Spidey fortunately gets to keep Raimi, as well as Tobey.
True, I could comment that the film is seeming a bit, "stuffed," with 3 villains, many new supporting characters, and the odd need to immediatly drive Pete and Mary Jane apart after spending 2 complete movies bringing them together. Part of Batman and Robin's Problem was that it tried to use so many different story threads, (Bruce Being engaged, Alfred Dying, Dick Grayson becoming estranged, Mr. Freezes's story, Poison Ivy's story, the oridgin of Bane,) that it done none very well. I just wanted to mention that.
But, in the end, I think Spidey 3 is shaping up to be the best 3rd entry of a Superhero franchise ever. I mean, c'mon! they're using the cartoon version fo the symbiote story, how cool is that? But, I wouldn't say we're completely out of the woods.
Okay, now you can flame me for being a noob. Don't worry. This aint my first rodeo.
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