The Winter Soldier Captain America 2: Rotten Tomato Watch

[QBComics]

Score went down. Still have quite a few big publications that have yet to be added (TIME, Village Voice). Seems to be that the score will definitely stabilize around 87-92%.

Hopefully RT will start to add more reviews at a faster rate. Odd that we're under 100 reviews counted a day from release.

 

[Suzanne78]

Strike what I said earlier about AV Club. AA Dowd gave it a B+ He'll go up on RT.

"Best since the Avengers"

http://www.avclub.com/review/captain-america-winter-soldier-best-marvel-film-av-202964

 

[QBComics]

Suzanne78 is doing a better job at adding reviews than Rotten Tomatoes.

 

[Suzanne78]

Rotten Tomatoes needs to work that Google Alerts system

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Suzanne78 is doing a better job at adding reviews than Rotten Tomatoes.

Obsessed. Crazed. Sick.

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[Suzanne78]

Obsessed. Crazed. Sick.

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All reviews and no Cap make Suzanne somethin' something...

 

[QBComics]

Amy Nicholson of LA Weekly gave it an A-.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

God help us all

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Strike what I said earlier about AV Club. AA Dowd gave it a B+ He'll go up on RT.

"Best since the Avengers"

http://www.avclub.com/review/captain-america-winter-soldier-best-marvel-film-av-202964

Not hard.

 

[Volcom]

The IMDB is predominantly fanboy /young male driven. It also skews heavily toward the new. As a consensus for what that demographic currently likes/loves/hates it's great. But for women, kids, older people and as a representative of decades of film from varying genres it's rather faulty.

You can say whatever you want, but i think the rating on IMDB is pretty reasonable. It´s more reasonable than the ratings on this very site. That´s why we´re seeing the rating for this movie dropping. It will probably end up around 7, wich will mean that the movie isn´t either amazing or bad, but simply good, wich to me is much more fair than painting it as the greatest thing ever, or as a pile of cr*p. That´s why i like IMDB ratings. They seem reasonable. There are exceptions, but for the most part, i agree with it. We don´t see extremes too often.

Oh, and the demographic of IMDB is much more diversified than the demographic of RT´s critics, wich is mainly composed by males over 35, full of preconceptions about what a good movie should be and highly professionally biased, since what they write have an impact on their professional career.

So i don´t really see any logical reason to assume the opinion of critics is more valuable than the opinion of IMDB.

 

[Volcom]

I see what you're getting at, but generally speaking I'm not ranking in terms of objective perfection, firstly because nothing's perfect, and secondly because I can't claim to be some authority on what's objectively good. I can only talk about my response to a film, and how much I enjoyed it/didn't enjoy it and why. And so if I absolutely loved a film, it has earned its place amongst my all-time favourite films, and I can't imagine loving it more, then of course I will give it a 10.

My rating system, when I review films on Letterboxd, goes by the 5 star system, and here's the criteria I go by:

***** - Classic
****1/2 - Excellent
**** - Great
***1/2 - Very Good
*** - Good
**1/2 - Okay
** - Mediocre
*1/2 - Bad
* - Very Bad
1/2 - Wretched Turd

Translating that to the 10 point rating system means that Captain America: The Winter Soldier - by my ranking a 4 and a half star film - becomes a 9/10 movie. I'd say that's a fair reflection of my response to the movie, as someone who feels it's already one of the year's best. Meanwhile, your 6/10 rating translates to a *** rating, which is "Good," meaning that overall you liked it but there were a lot of flaws that hampered your enjoyment or you didn't think it was anything particularly special. I think that seems to largely reflect your own review that you wrote earlier.

But when someone says the film is a 3/10, that by my ranking is a *1/2 star film. That's the rating I gave Sweet Home Alabama, Swimfan and Priest. That's pretty dire, and based on the actual flaws the Crave reviewer laid out in his review, it seems the score is much harsher than what he actually found wrong with it.

If someone finds the movie boring, predictable and overall not entertaining, i think it´s pretty fair for them to give it a 3/10. People get excited by different things. Not everyone finds this type of movie entertaining or exciting. My mother, for example, found the movie pretty boring. If you pay 10$ for a ticket and end up having a bad time, what rating will you give to that movie? A movie isn´t supposed to be a torture, and believe it or not, some people get bored by endless scenes of explosions and kicks to the face.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What is the point of a number system that goes past good/bad? I get distinguishing between a good, great and excellent film. But what is the point of distinguishing between a bad film, really bad film and an absolutely horrible film? Does it matter if it is 1 or a 3 out of 10?

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

If someone finds the movie boring, predictable and overall not entertaining, i think it´s pretty fair for them to give it a 3/10. People get excited by different things. Not everyone finds this type of movie entertaining or exciting. My mother, for example, found the movie pretty boring. If you pay 10$ for a ticket and end up having a bad time, what rating will you give to that movie? A movie isn´t supposed to be a torture, and believe it or not, some people get bored by endless scenes of explosions and kicks to the face.

We get it, you don't like the movie. Stop trying to convince people that it's a mediocre movie...sheesh

It's cool you and your mom thought it's not all that, obbviously lotsa people, fans and critics alike disagree.

 

[Volcom]

What is the point of a number system that goes past good/bad? I get distinguishing between a good, great and excellent film. But what is the point of distinguishing between a bad film, really bad film and an absolutely horrible film? Does it matter if it is 1 or a 3 out of 10?

It´s to help to differentiate a movie like TDK from a movie like IM3. They can both be considered good, but for most people they are in different "good levels". It´s to avoid to place them in the same category, since there are obvious differences in quality. according to the popular opinion.

You can use whatever rating system you want. If you think the 0-10 is pointless, you can use a 2 star or 3 star rating system. But it´s silly to use a 10 star system like if it was a 3 star system. That makes the whole thing pointless.

 

[Volcom]

We get it, you don't like the movie. Stop trying to convince people that it's a mediocre movie...sheesh

It's cool you and your mom thought it's not all that, obbviously lotsa people, fans and critics alike disagree.

What´s your problem, dude? I´m talking with another user about the reasons that might lead someone to give a 3/10 to this movie. One user is acting like it doesn´t make sense, and i´m simply explaining that it actually makes sense, since people are entertained by different things. If you have a problem with people having a different from yours, turn off your computer and go do something else. Go to a place where you are all alone, so you can´t read negative things about your favorite movie.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

My problem is your pasive agrresive attitude. every post you've made on this forum has essentially been the same, which was basically a thinlly veiled insults, And i don't have a problem with people having different opinions, my problem is fanboys like you.

And obviously i'm not the only because one of the mod has warned you already earlier

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It´s to help to differentiate a movie like TDK from a movie like IM3. They can both be considered good, but for most people they are in different "good levels". It´s to avoid to place them in the same category, since there are obvious differences in quality. according to the popular opinion.

You can use whatever rating system you want. If you think the 0-10 is pointless, you can use a 2 star or 3 star rating system. But it´s silly to use a 10 star system like if it was a 3 star system. That makes the whole thing pointless.

You are missing the point. I get distinguishing good films. But bad? does it matter if something is a little worse or better on the bad movie scale?

We get it, you don't like the movie. Stop trying to convince people that it's a mediocre movie...sheesh

It's cool you and your mom thought it's not all that, obbviously lotsa people, fans and critics alike disagree.

Is this called for at all? Would this be the same reply for someone here to simply heap praise?

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Is this called for at all? Would this be the same reply for someone here to simply heap praise?

There is a difference between voicing a legitimate critics and obvious thinly veiled insults. he's beein doing this at the other thread too and a mod other poster called him up on it.

 

[Volcom]

You are missing the point. I get distinguishing good films. But bad? does it matter if something is a little worse or better on the bad movie scale?

I understand. It probably has to do with a more complex way of analysing a movie. I think there´s the "bad" that you can´t stand and the "bad" that you can still watch without being totally disgusted. Batman & Robin is a bad movie that i can watch. I give it a 4/10. But there are movies that i can´t even sit through them. To that kind of movie i would probably give it a 2 or a 3.

Is this called for at all? Would this be the same reply for someone here to simply heap praise?

I think this is a very hostile place for people who don´t think this movie is a 9 or a 10.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

I dont think so, Volcom. Only for people who acts like you

 

[Volcom]

There is a difference between voicing a legitimate critics and obvious thinly veiled insults. he's beein doing this at the other thread too and a mod other poster called him up on it.

Insults? Where did i insult anyone?

Voicing a legitimate critic? How´s what i´ve been saying not "legitimate"? Care to explain?

And i don´t get the whole "passive aggressive" thing. To me that only means "You´re not insulting anyone, but you´re insisting in something i don´t agree with, so to me you´re being passive aggressive".

The only aggressive behaviour i see here is coming from you.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

The difference is HOW you coiced your critics, without sounding very condescending, hence the passive agressive remark.

Or post your grievances with the movie in the approriate thread.You said you were discussing the ratings system, fine. Do it without subtle dig directed at the the movie.There are threads for that. Heck, there is even a special thread created where you can complain about the movie to your heart's content

There has been plenty enough users how didn't really liked the movie, and i've got zero problems with them.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There is a difference between voicing a legitimate critics and obvious thinly veiled insults. he's beein doing this at the other thread too and a mod other poster called him up on it.

Even if that is the case, does that mean we need to insult other posters? Lets keep it about the topic and not who is posting. I know it can be hard at times. I have done it more then my fair share.

I understand. It probably has to do with a more complex way of analysing a movie. I think there´s the "bad" that you can´t stand and the "bad" that you can still watch without being totally disgusted. Batman & Robin is a bad movie that i can watch. I give it a 4/10. But there are movies that i can´t even sit through them. To that kind of movie i would probably give it a 2 or a 3.

So bad its watchable isn't really all that complex imo. Nor does it really change the quality. I just like some subject matter better then other. B&R is a good example though. I can get through most of it.

I think this is a very hostile place for people who don´t think this movie is a 9 or a 10.

It can be. It doesn't help when you talk down to others either though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The difference is HOW you coiced your critics, without sounding very condescending, hence the passive agressive remark.

Or post your grievances with the movie in the approriate thread.You said you were discussing the ratings system, fine. Do it without subtle dig directed at the the movie.There are threads for that. Heck, there is even a special thread created where you can complain about the movie to your heart's content

There has been plenty enough users how didn't really liked the movie, and i've got zero problems with them.

When I come back with my .5/10 score for the film, lets see how few problems you have with me. t:

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

When I come back with my .5/10 score for the film, lets see how few problems you have with me.

LOL, i know you. So i'm guessing i won't have any problem at all.