Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 9

[Shuri]

I h

I definitely think it'll be close in tone to Winter Soldier. Looking forward to seeing that one come together here soon!

I hope we get Bucky/TWS in it.

 

[Web-Head]

I h

I hope we get Bucky/TWS in it.

I'm curious if it really will be a prequel. I kinda hope it isn't, at least not entirely.

 

[Jh7058622]

how famous is Captain Marvel in the comics? Like is she B/C list? anyone think the film and Endgame can do enough to drastically UP her fanbase or draw more attention to her comic?

Umm D-List now but after all the hype around the film they've been trying and failing to elevate her. Now she'll probably get there with some merit I suppose but in general she has a comic that doesn't sell.

 

[Jh7058622]

I wonder if the WW sequel can get close enough to match it. Would be great to see more audiences come out in droves for future films of both. We need to see more normalization of female-led action films.

One would think after Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2: Judgement Day; there should have been far more.

Wonder Woman certainly deserves it more imo.

 

[Iceman]

I'm curious if it really will be a prequel. I kinda hope it isn't, at least not entirely.

I don't want the whole thing set in the past either. I'd like some relevance to modern day MCU.

 

[Jh7058622]

Nice get for Captain Lukewarm.

Captain Mehvel is what the internet unanimously decided upon.

 

[Web-Head]

I don't want the whole thing set in the past either. I'd like some relevance to modern day MCU.

I hope this synopsis is accurate

At birth the Black Widow (aka Natasha Romanova) is given to the KGB, which grooms her to become its ultimate operative. When the U.S.S.R. breaks up, the government tries to kill her as the action moves to present-day New York, where she is a freelance operative. The standalone film will find Romanoff living in the United States 15 years after the fall of the Soviet Union

But that's for the Black Widow general discussion

 

[Iceman]

Wonder Woman certainly deserves it more imo.

Have you seen CM now?

 

[Shuri]

Wonder Woman certainly deserves it more imo.

The audience determines how successful a movie becomes, they don't care whether a movie deserves it or not.

 

[Jh7058622]

The audience determines how successful a movie becomes, they don't care whether a movie deserves it or not.

Like Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean sequels and Spider-Man 3? What a world we live in?

 

[Mysteryman]

The audience determines how successful a movie becomes, they don't care whether a movie deserves it or not.

Bingo.

 

[Mysteryman]

Like Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean sequels and Spider-Man 3? What a world we live in?

I am glad those franchises continued.
If not we wouldn't have Spidey in the MCU or Bumblebee.
I may be in the minority but I liked Pirates 5.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

'Captain Marvel' Featured A Reference To Spider-Woman

 

[spideyfan77]

I love the MCU. Doing my marathon for endgame made me realize how great this universe is but also how bad captain marvel is. Man its possibly the worst movie yet.

I hope the mcu doesnt rely on diversity over quality moving forward. It should be both honestly. Black panther was very good! Thats how it should be. Now i dont think its best picture worthy (probably my 4th favourite cbm last year) but it made a bucket load of money because it was the first black superhero. Now we have captain marvel going to make a billion when it really shouldnt but its because its the first mcu female superhero solo movie.

This movie was pure filler and a really bore. Never been so bored watching an mcu movie.

Iron man - AWESOME
Incredible hulk - Good
Iron man 2 - Good (filler)
Thor - Good
Captain america - Good
Avengers - Good (was great)
Iron man 3 - Meh (filler)
Thor 2 - Meh (filler)
Winter soldier - AWESOME
Guardians 1 - Great
Avengers 2 - AWESOME (actually loved it)
Ant man - Meh (filler)
Civil war - AWESOME
Doctor strange - Good
Guardians 2 - Great
Homecoming - Garbage (filler garbage)
Ragnarok - Meh
Black panther - good
Infinity war - PURE AWESOME
Ant man 2 - Meh (definition of filler)
Captain marvel - Bad (pure definition of filler)

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I know someone asked this about CA but now they've done it for Carol:

Does Captain Marvel rate backpay? We called the Air Force to find out

 

[MahvelBaby!]

In the mood to go after work to watch it again.

 

[metaphysician]

This was one of the more unpredictable Marvel movies yet IMO

That's not necessarily a good thing. IMO, Captain Marvel gained unpredictability at the expense of clarity of characterization, which is not the best tradeoff.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Captain Marvel: 15 Spoiler Facts From Directors Anna Boden And Ryan Fleck

 

[Web-Head]

Captain Marvel: 15 Spoiler Facts From Directors Anna Boden And Ryan Fleck

Very cool. I had a feeling #1 was true and I liked the idea in #6

 

[Thome216]

I cannot agree with those who say it is a bore. The character interactions drive this movie, the action scenes are great and are easy follow without any w'what? blurriness and it doesn't rely on heavy fights to keep the momentum up.

I saw it again today and I think it was even better than the first time. Carol's journey is fun to watch. She was well-written and Larsen brought this character successfully from the page to full color life.

The only critique I have is that some CG shots, such as when she is in space, are less realistic than they should have been and I wish it had a better soundtrack, both instrumental and in songs. I liked them well enough, but most weren't my favs from that era.

But a good story trumps those minor quibbles.

 

[metaphysician]

You're missing the point. Flickchick85 is saying the way CinemaScore works inherently (polling people in theater after they view a film) will at least avoid people who don't watch the movie and are just spamming hatred.

To be fair what you're saying though I do agree to a small extent.

The thing about that that I can kind of understand your point on is sometimes after you watch something (especially action movies) our bodies adrenaline levels are at a high giving us this happy feeling so we're more likely to be less critical at that time. Once we've gotten home and had time to digest the media consumption we've just ingested we can sometimes change our minds about said media because we start thinking more critically. That or we watch it a second time and realize we weren't really correct with our original elation.

This is all true. However, it doesn't make Cinemascore useless. It just puts some boundaries on what it means. Essentially, a high Cinemascore doesn't necessarily mean much, because such wide swathes of quality all still get the same As and A+s, due to the initial enthusiasm you mention. However, because its so easy to get a high Cinemascore? It means any movie that *doesn't* get a high score, is notable. In simple terms, you can be fairly sure a C movie has *really* bad WOM, because it takes really bad audience reaction to score that low.

Its important with all metrics to understand their limits, and not try to grant them meaning outside of those limits. Its why I like Rotten Tomatoes: the RT score measures something simply and precise- what percent of critics recommend a movie. However well that correlates to movie quality or your personal enjoyment, you can at least be certain that if the score is 85%, then 85% of critics *actually do* recommend the movie.

 

[Thome216]

Sudden thought...

Ronin knows of Carol. We know he survived this movie as well as the sequel(prequel) in order to die in GotG. Is it possible that Thanos is then also aware of Carol, and she may not be as big a surprise as people are thinking she will be to him?

 

[Web-Head]

I cannot agree with those who say it is a bore. The character interactions drive this movie, the action scenes are great and are easy follow without any w'what? blurriness and it doesn't rely on heavy fights to keep the momentum up.

I saw it again today and I think it was even better than the first time. Carol's journey is fun to watch. She was well-written and Larsen brought this character successfully from the page to full color life.

The only critique I have is that some CG shots, such as when she is in space, are less realistic than they should have been and I wish it had a better soundtrack, both instrumental and in songs. I liked them well enough, but most weren't my favs from that era.

But a good story trumps those minor quibbles.

I'm with ya. My eyes were glued from the start and the 2nd act has a minor lull but the character interactions kept me glued and the 2+ hr runtime flew by. I'm looking forward to seeing it again Saturday

Sudden thought...

Ronin knows of Carol. We know he survived this movie as well as the sequel(prequel) in order to die in GotG. Is it possible that Thanos is then also aware of Carol, and she may not be as big a surprise as people are thinking she will be to him?

I also am curious to see if Carol has heard of Thanos or vice versa. Should be interesting.

 

[metaphysician]

This I buy. So many theaters seem to operate with like a skeleton crew most of the day. I can see a lazy team or manager just forgetting a detail like that for sure.

If you want to be conspiratorial, it could be more than just laziness. If the normal films look a little worse, that makes the 3D movies look better, relatively. And the 'better' 3D films look, the more people watch them and pay the higher ticket prices.

I suspect its mostly laziness and penny-pinching, but having this potential collateral benefit certainly doesn't encourage scrupulous lens-swapping.

 

[KevTravels]

Umm D-List now but after all the hype around the film they've been trying and failing to elevate her. Now she'll probably get there with some merit I suppose but in general she has a comic that doesn't sell.

why do you think it won't sell?