casting mistakes?

[xmenfilesfan05]

sorry still not rogue to me,like i dont mind her as rogue she can probably pull off the comic rogue but theres other people who are more like the comic rogue,maybe its her teeth thats the worst thing but i do agree about her in x2 if she looked like that in x3 then we have the comic rogue,i think it was x3 that made me meh for anna as rogue

I had no idea Comic Rogue was known for her teeth. If it's about the comic character appearances, every female in the films would have the proportions of Pam Anderson, big hair and all.

YIKES! I'll stick with the Jean, Storm, and Rogue we got.

 

[Goddessreicho]

That wouldn't have anything to do with decent dialog and an essential role that Rogue had, now, would it?

But that doesn't answer the question. Why the double standard when both roles were drastically different from their counterparts?

 

[Jan Irisi]

Because some would say, unlike Halle, Anna at least did a good job with what was given to her...I said...SOME would say.

Nope. It goes much much farther than that.

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

I hear more complaining about Halle based on performance and more complaining about the writers based on character portrayal...although I have heard people say Halle is too meek with her role compared to a Comic Storm...which would go back to her performance. I'm not one of those people, but I don't necessarily see a double standard.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I hear more complaining about Halle based on performance and more complaining about the writers based on character portrayal...although I have heard people say Halle is too meek with her role compared to a Comic Storm...which would go back to her performance. I'm not one of those people, but I don't necessarily see a double standard.

Halle was too meek? I hate it when people say that. She was never meek. Being meek would mean shying away from people. If anything she was the one to get in people's faces. Nightcrawler, Rogue, Wolverine's, Senator Kelly. Which is actually very uncharacteristic for Storm.

IMO Rogue was the meek one.

Consider that yet another strike for double standards.

Performance problems...lol. A good performance would stem from a decent scripted character, you can't have one without the other. That's almost as bad as blaming Halle for her god awful dialog. "Well she sounded stupid saying that." Of course she did, IT WAS IN THE SCRIPT. Another person would have soundedjust as dumb. Most people on the boards now understand that, but there are those who can't quiet grasp that concept.

But again, someone please explain the logical bases of the double standard between accepting Anna's performance and crapping on Halle's?

 

[Jan Irisi]

*waits for explanation*

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

I can't explain it myself, being someone who loved both Halle's and Anna's performances and characters in X1.

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

Oh, and Goddess, I never said Halle was too meek, I was just stating that that comment has been made before.

Edit: And the term meek actually refers to being patient or humble, as well as spiritless and docile...not the same as shy.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Lol, I know you didn't. I was just saying that when people do, they don't really explain how she was meek. If anything, she was the warm welcoming people person. It was she who went out of her way to welcome Rogue, befriend Nightcrawler, and um...dare I say, Angel.

Where do they get that idea?

Rogue was nearly unrecognizable until X2. I know alot of people say that in the beginning she was unsure and shy about her powers. Yes, she was. But she was never a shy *person*. Even before her powers, she was lively and had a bit of southern perk. <-- That was missing in the films.

X2 gave Rogue some of her spitfire back which really should have never left her. But according to the Hype, that's acceptable.

WTF?

I'm not blaming you, I'm just saying that the double standard is frustrating and ugly.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Reading these post has brought forth a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.

Why the double standard for Anna to be ok even though a near polar opposite as her counterpart but Halle gets fire and brimstone?

I suppose one could say she's somewhat close to the classic old-school Rogue... But said argument would then get crushed in like 3 seconds flat since everyone wants the sexed up Romy version...

No idea, really. Probably cause Halle gets a bigger paycheck and has her name on the X3 poster. *shrugs*

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Reading these post has brought forth a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.

Why the double standard for Anna to be ok even though a near polar opposite as her counterpart but Halle gets fire and brimstone?

Goddess, I think it's because of the fact that Anna, despite having a totally different Rogue to deal, still had a good character to play. Yes, Rogue was different, but she had some great dialogues, a good development in comparison to other characters and a much more beliavable personality for a person with her powers. (it's way more believeable than having a super-sassy-self-confident personality when you cannot touch anyone.) Rogue allowed Anna to show a good range of emotions, and show her talent in good scenes. Overall, Anna did a great job with the character she was given.

Halle, on the other hand, had to deal with a character that had the only purpose to be the power-delivery for the wow effects. Her lines were mostly terrible too, and she (quite like Rogue in X3) switched personalities back and forth. Sometimes she's strong, but then she's afraid, then she acts like a dumb, then she loves someone. Huge inconsistencies along the trilogy.

That's why I think people accept Anna more. Her character, despite being different from the comic, was still a great character if you consider only the movies and forget they're based on a comic book. Storm's character, no matter how much you forget the comic, is still poorly developed and sometimes (i mean in X3) even annoying. Storm doesn't allow Halle to show her talent at almost any point (although I, unlike almost everyone, just love her eulogy in X3.)

 

[Angamb]

Too much Anna and Halle discussion, but what about Hugh?

Yes, everybody seems to be happy with him, but for me he isn't the comic Logan.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Too much Anna and Halle discussion, but what about Hugh?

Yes, everybody seems to be happy with him, but for me he isn't the comic Logan.

I like Hugh.

 

[storm-x-fan]

I want jean to be played by someone else.

 

[storm-x-fan]

Too much Anna and Halle discussion, but what about Hugh?

Yes, everybody seems to be happy with him, but for me he isn't the comic Logan.

I like Hugh, he makes a good wolvie.

 

[X-Maniac]

Too much Anna and Halle discussion, but what about Hugh?

Yes, everybody seems to be happy with him, but for me he isn't the comic Logan.

It would be better if he were shorter, but otherwise he isn't that bad.
He's prettier in X1 and X2, then he looks more 'rough' in X3 unless he's just older and more stressed at all his responsibilities!

 

[Matt.S99]

I had no idea Comic Rogue was known for her teeth. If it's about the comic character appearances, every female in the films would have the proportions of Pam Anderson, big hair and all.

YIKES! I'll stick with the Jean, Storm, and Rogue we got.

i didnt say it was about the teeth but they certainly dont help,but gah pam anderson?!noo

 

[Matt.S99]

I want jean to be played by someone else.

BOOO!

 

[Mistopurr83]

Well hey! I too am really annoyed that many people blindly fail to see that Anna was just as wrong for Rogue as much as Halle was wrong for Storm. Give me a break they were BOTH wrongfully cast and watered down into useless little sissies! I slam Anna for the same reasons I and many others slam Halle. Anna does NOT do the comic Rogue justice and she'll never be able to pull off the 616 Rogue on screen. That's just NOT the way is it. The reasons why people crap on Halle only give me the same reasons to crap on Anna. People say movieStorm's only purpose was to be a special effects machine. Well movieRogue's only purpose was to be the one getting pitied and never actually becoming an active mutant. I've noticed people are saying Anna is playing Rogue the way she was when her powers first manifed. Well their wrong! She didn't act all sad and sissified. If you all had the 616 universe knowledge you claim to, you would know the 616 Kitty Pryde and the movie Rogue are really the same character with different powers!

If those moviemakers wanna treat a mutant who can't control her powers all emotional and useless, why not treat Cylcops that way too? For god sakes Cylcops can never use his eyes freely without harming somebody or destroying something. I remember Cyclops felt just as scared and devastated when his uncontroled optic blast first manifested. So I ask again, why not portray Cyclops to be all emotional over his cursed power instead of over a woman who loves Wolverine more than him?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Thats not halles and Annas fault, its called WRITERS. Doesnt matter who they cast in the role, the lines would still read the same. The writers wrote Storm the way she is in the movies along with Rogue. Rogue wasnt written like the Rogue in the comics along with Storm, just like Mystique wasnt written like her comic counter part

 

[BMM]

Well hey! I too am really annoyed that many people blindly fail to see that Anna was just as wrong for Rogue as much as Halle was wrong for Storm. Give me a break they were BOTH wrongfully cast and watered down into useless little sissies! I slam Anna for the same reasons I and many others slam Halle. Anna does NOT do the comic Rogue justice and she'll never be able to pull off the 616 Rogue on screen. That's just NOT the way is it. The reasons why people crap on Halle only give me the same reasons to crap on Anna. People say movieStorm's only purpose was to be a special effects machine. Well movieRogue's only purpose was to be the one getting pitied and never actually becoming an active mutant. I've noticed people are saying Anna is playing Rogue the way she was when her powers first manifed. Well their wrong! She didn't act all sad and sissified. If you all had the 616 universe knowledge you claim to, you would know the 616 Kitty Pryde and the movie Rogue are really the same character with different powers!

Anyone that has any knowledge of the X-Men knows that Kitty Pryde in the books and Rogue in the movies have nothing in common save for the fact that they are both young girls used as an introductory source to the X-Men, which has been done time and time again since the team's inception (Jean Grey-1963, Kitty Pryde-Pryde of The X-Men, Jubilee-The Animated Series, Rogue-X-Men).

Kitty Pryde isn't a young run-away scared of the danger her powers pose to herself and to others. Kitty Pryde has always been an outgoing, upbeat teenager who joins the X-Men, quickly befriending the entire team. Kitty Pryde does not curl up into a ball and cry about her powers. She does not withdraw from the team. She does not have entire comic books dedicated to pity parties that a character like Rogue all too frequently throws for herself since she joined the team.

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

Great...another Misto rant and rave that makes absolutely no sense...why can't we just admit, since we are talking about universes, that the movies are their own universe, something original and bold, but still retain the spirit of X-Men...and that some portrayels, are not as bad as some seem to believe.

 

[Mistopurr83]

Anyone that has any knowledge of the X-Men knows that Kitty Pryde in the books and Rogue in the movies have nothing in common save for the fact that they are both young girls used as an introductory source to the X-Men, which has been done time and time again since the team's inception (Jean Grey-1963, Kitty Pryde-Pryde of The X-Men, Jubilee-The Animated Series, Rogue-X-Men).

Kitty Pryde isn't a young run-away scared of the danger her powers pose to herself and to others. Kitty Pryde has always been an outgoing, upbeat teenager who joins the X-Men, quickly befriending the entire team. Kitty Pryde does not curl up into a ball and cry about her powers. She does not withdraw from the team. She does not have entire comic books dedicated to pity parties that a character like Rogue all too frequently throws for herself since she joined the team.

You are making no sense. Enough said.

 

[xmenfilesfan05]

Actually that's the most sense any user has made in this thread.

 

[Mistopurr83]

If you say I make no sense, I'll say you make no sense. So you, Marvel and Fox can do me a favor and go to hell.