casting mistakes?

[Angamb]

I would still replace Hugh and Halle.

Halle didn't give off a strong perfomance for a strong Storm.

Hugh is was barely Logan although i'm sure writing is still a factor, Hugh just wasn't rough and tough enough. He was too good looking for the role as well.

ABSOLUTELY agreed. Logan is supposed to look like a wild man, not a gentelman dressed as Wolverine. That's how I see the Hugh in xfilms.

 

[Loganbabe]

Hugh is great as Wolvie. He played rough and tough perfectly in X1/X2, altough in X3 something was missing. He will have another chance of playing tough Wolverine in the spin-off...he won´t have any problems in bringing the character´s anger back, he´s a wonderful actor.
As for casting mistakes, I really disliked the president in X3. And some of the actors in minor roles. I never had any problems with the main cast; I would chose an older-looking actor for Cyke, but James was okay in the end.

 

[Matt.S99]

im sorry,i honestly cant see anyone else as wolvie,especially after watching x1 again

 

[storm-x-fan]

im sorry,i honestly cant see anyone else as wolvie,especially after watching x1 again

Well , Batboy99, at least in thsi little one thing, i have to agree with u!! t: Hugh Jackman as wolverine rocks!! :heart:

 

[gambitfire]

Well i know people who said the same thing about Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeve.

There hasn't been another Wolverine nor anyone up who's mentioned interest in the role, so clearly you can't see anyone else in the position.



Hugh can be well replaced, it's hollywood anything is possible. Wheather you want to believe it or not.

Oh i already said Hugh and Halle but some other cast members i would deffinetley say where casting mistakes:

Shawn Ashmore
Vinnie Jones
Whoever the hell was that guy that played Arclight.

 

[Goddessreicho]

You know what would have been fanfriggintastic, getting a cast who had actually read more than a handful of the comics.

People who knew about the characters. If they studied for other roles, why not study for these.

For Jackman to say at the Japan press conference that X3 finally showed Wolverine's leadership abilities was a super hard slap in the face. Look at the books when the school had split into half a dozen teams. Wolverine never got a team. LOL Gambit got a team before he did.

Wolverine isn't a responsible or reliable man. He doesn't stay in one place. That's lesson number one on How to Be a Leader.

I actually do fault Halle for not knowing that her character IS a leader. Watching Hugh turn to her and say, "Hold this line" was the WORSE line in the history of the franchise.

Yea, you heard me. I dare anyone to challenge me on that.

Edit: As a producer, Jackman had the opportunity to take the high road and tone down his character and yet just the opposite happened, exponentially. People might complain that success has gotten to a particular actress's head, but apparently it's an epidemic.

 

[Matt.S99]

Well i know people who said the same thing about Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeve.

There hasn't been another Wolverine nor anyone up who's mentioned interest in the role, so clearly you can't see anyone else in the position.



Hugh can be well replaced, it's hollywood anything is possible. Wheather you want to believe it or not.

Oh i already said Hugh and Halle but some other cast members i would deffinetley say where casting mistakes:

Shawn Ashmore
Vinnie Jones
Whoever the hell was that guy that played Arclight.

from the people who were rumoured and auditioned for wolverne,id take hugh

 

[@JeanGrey]

Oh i already said Hugh and Halle but some other cast members i would deffinetley say where casting mistakes:

Shawn Ashmore
Vinnie Jones
Whoever the hell was that guy that played Arclight.

Vinnie Jones is the worst casting choice in the whole 'trilogy'
And about Ashmore i agree. He didn't convince me at all as Iceman. Not a single joke...

 

[gambitfire]

^You forgot his personality was scratched off and given to Wolverine to complete SUPERLOGAN The uberest protagonist of the X-films.

Cyclops: Leadership
Bobby: Humor
Gambit: Charm
Xavier: Wisdom
Storm: Presence

With your characteristics combined I am SUPERLOGAN!!

........i stole the premise of the joke from someone,....sorry i had too.


t:

 

[Goddessreicho]

LOL ^-- Totally sig-worthy. If I wasn't advertising Avatar, I would have that in there.

 

[Loganbabe]

Wolverine isn't a responsible or reliable man. He doesn't stay in one place. That's lesson number one on How to Be a Leader.

Of course he can be both responsible and reliable. He took many X kids under his wings in the comics, why couldn´t he do the same in the movies? And he wouldn´t be part of a team if he wasn´t reliable, for chrissake!
In the comics, he could be a leader any day he wanted to. He certainly has the skills for it. He just wasn´t interested, thanks gods. I really hope that if they make a X4, it´ll start with Storm as an X-Men leader or they´ll bring Cyke back for the role, while Logan will be happy just teaching the kids self-defense. Leaders are so boring.

 

[Goddessreicho]

Your right Loganbabe, who needs organization and strategy on a mission, in a fight, or in battle. Let's all jump in head first stabbing things, running around like chickens with no heads and have a total disregard for any structure of for our own personal safety.

After all EVERYBODY has an indestructible body. RIGHT?!

Again, this is a HUGE reason why Wolverine leading anybody anywhere is laughable. This is why he has the fans that he does. He doesn't need to be on a team, let alone in front. DUH!

Edit: Wolverine can't be a leader any time he wants. It wasn't until Cyclops tricked him into a danger room program that he realized that he could take responsibility for other people.

 

[La_She-Beast]

Your right Loganbabe, who needs organization and strategy on a mission, in a fight, or in battle. Let's all jump in head first stabbing things, running around like chickens with no heads and have a total disregard for any structure of for our own personal safety.

After all EVERYBODY has an indestructible body. RIGHT?!

Again, this is a HUGE reason why Wolverine leading anybody anywhere is laughable. This is why he has the fans that he does. He doesn't need to be on a team, let alone in front. DUH!

Edit: Wolverine can't be a leader any time he wants. It wasn't until Cyclops tricked him into a danger room program that he realized that he could take responsibility for other people.

LMAO!!
Angel could be their leader then.

 

[gambitfire]

^ba da dum!



Truth betold for a sumarai fighter most the comic books and practically all of TAS had him jumping head first screaming only to be knocked out multiple times.

On a seperate note, Who needs a leader, i mean what importance to they have? It's not like they lead people or anything......how uninteresting.......................

 

[Loganbabe]

Well, if you like to be led, that´s your problem.

 

[Loganbabe]

Your right Loganbabe, who needs organization and strategy on a mission, in a fight, or in battle. Let's all jump in head first stabbing things, running around like chickens with no heads and have a total disregard for any structure of for our own personal safety.

So you´re basically saying Wolverine is an idiot.
He can be written as an idiot, but that´s NOT what the character is supposed to be.
Wolverine had a lot of training. Not only with the X-Men. He was trained as a samurai, as a soldier, as a secret agent. He has fighting skills and he can be smart and resourceful. And you´re saying he´s just an idiot who jumps around stabbing people.
Like I said, he can be written that way, and I guess that´s how Wolverine haters like to read/see him. As an angry idiot with no purpose. But that´s not how the fans perceive him.

Edit: Wolverine can't be a leader any time he wants. It wasn't until Cyclops tricked him into a danger room program that he realized that he could take responsibility for other people.

You´re talking about ONE story. It was proven more than once, in other stories, that he has skills to be a leader and he can take responsability. He CAN be a leader, but he isn´t the leader type, that´s all.
If you´re saying Gambit can be a leader, maybe you could prove me why Logan can´t be one too.

 

[WideAwake]

Don't get mad now, Loganbabe. You could've expected a reply like that when you called leaders (implying Cyclops) boring.

As for casting mistakes, I think in most cases it was the way characters were written that made them deviate from the sourcematerial they way they did.
Ashmore could have given us a funny Iceman had his part been written that way. Vinnie Jones doesn't seem like a bad choice for Juggernaut either, he's played tough characters in gritty action movies before. It was the way he was written, and that superlame musclesuit and costume they slapped on him.

One thing I can't get over though, is that they cast a beautiful woman like Dania Ramirez for Callisto -ugly is my middle..err second name. The costume they gave her (and basically all of the "Morlocks") made things even worse.
I do think that the woman playing Arclight could have made a good Callisto. She has a very distinctive look. Dunno if she can act though...

 

[gambitfire]

I'm curious, am i less of a person for being led? I mean i'm not so pompous as to believe i know what to do in every situation. Call me crazy but I believe a team needs organization and you're not going to get any with more than 4 egos running around. Especially when one of those is as big as Logans ego.

Leaders!

Who needs'em?

I'm curios are these characters dull because of leadership?

Captain America
Mr. Fantastic
Batman
Superman
WonderWoman
Robin

etc.

 

[Loganbabe]

All those characters (except Batman, and maybe Reed, altough I´m not into FF much) annoy the hell out of me especially because of the leadership thing.
Whatever...for each his/her own. Leaders have their importance, my problem is with people who think Scott is better because he´s a Leader, and leaders are somehow Sacred, while Logan is a Nothing because he´s not the leader type.

 

[MilkmanDan]

I agree with Loganbabe about Wolverine's potential as a leader.He could make a fine leader, but he would not be very comfortable with the role. He works better when he's the "military advisor" to the actual leader like Cyke or Storm. That way he can act as the voice of experience of the team without losing too much of his wild, reckless side.

The leader can not be the hot-head of the team. That's why the leader-characters can be less entertaining, even boring to some. Personally, I often find the characters who have to deal with the burden of leadership interesting. The pressure they live under, the difficult decisions they have to make. I find Cyclops particularly interesting among this type of characters, because of the way his role as a leader goes against the insecure, socially-awkward even shy person he is underneath that no-nonsense professionalism.

As far as casting of Wolverine goes... Handsome, instantly likeable, conventional hero-type Wolverine took some getting use to, but Jackman's skills and charisma won me over. I'm happy with what he did with the role, even if I wonder what it would have been like had they cast a genuinely rough and scary actor like Michael Wincott.

 

[gambitfire]

Considering Gambit is my favorite character, i don't believe leaders to be better characters. I do believe however to the mythos of the teams story they hold probably greater importance.

All depending on what they have done as leaders of course.

In this case i would say Scott is a pretty dam important guy, but not a better character just because.

I don't recall him being military advisor to Cyke and Storm MilkmanDan.

Cyke can pretty much handle that himself and Storm has proven worthy of doing so as well.

I'm glad you atleast acknowledged Hugh's Wolverine isn't Wolverine. Though you didn't flat out say it (or didn't state it as a bad thing) you pretty much implied it. IMO it was of greater effect though.

Personally i wasn't happy with what was done. It took away from other characters characteristics.

 

[MilkmanDan]

I don't recall him being military advisor to Cyke and Storm MilkmanDan.

Cyke can pretty much handle that himself and Storm has proven worthy of doing so as well.

Both of them are great leaders. I'm not saying that. I just get the impression that while they don't need advice from Wolverine, they usually listen his opinions because he is the resident old warhorse who has seen and done it all before.

Personally i wasn't happy with what was done. It took away from other characters characteristics.

That's largely a question of screen-time, but I suppose making Logan a traditional leading man didn't help. Especially in X3 where he outshines both Cyke (obviously) and Storm as the leader.

 

[javphonic]

Vanessa Ferlito she has the look, bod, attitude and the accent

 

[flavio_lebeau]

she looks like Angelina in the first pic...

 

[Angamb]

too much sexy for my taste. I like Anna. And then Natalie Portman.