Civil War Civil War Rotten Tomatoes Thread - Part 2

[MessiahDecoy123]

This is why many of us wanted the score to stay at 95% for as long as possible.

We knew a swarm of ridiculous, negative reviews were coming eventually to drag the score way down.

 

[JOE]

Expect this movie to land in the high 80's. I'm thinking no less than 87.

 

[kedrell]

The RT score ceases to matter much once we're passed the OW anyway. WOM is now driving this forward. It could get nothing but rotten reviews from now on and it wouldn't have hardly any effect.

 

[Iceman]

I don't really pay as much attention to RT once I've seen the film. Beforehand though I read it a lot as it's one of the few sources for people who've seen the film. Nowadays there seem to be more early fan showings which is great so I can see what people who are more likely to view a film like I do think.

 

[Erzengel]

There are some posters who use it to compare movies. For instance the new X-Men series vs. the Cap series.

 

[Iceman]

It is one metric that can be used along with many others. It isn't a definitive answer as to whether a film is better, just one of many measures. Even all the measures combined (like box office (opening, legs and final total worldwide), metacritic, cinemacore, fan-scores (RT & IMDB for eg although these are sometimes manipulated a bit) etc) don't give a definitive answer, just an indication. And if they all point in one direction then a strong indication!

 

[Smilodon]

It's nice for bragging rights, but after 200+ reviews, it starts to become whatever and nitpicking. The vast majority of the world reacted positively to it, and that's what matters.

 

[CK Spider]

My righteous people, could anybody tweet Christy Lemire and/or Rotten Tomatoes about the classification of her review? I know it doesn't matter all that much anymore, but she's a top critic and praised the movie, giving it a 3.5/4, and yet her review counts as rotten. Is any of you Twitter people willing to contact them?

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

Some people already have.

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

She just tweeted this: https://***********/christylemire/status/730533476143763456

It's all good.

 

[CK Spider]

Yeah, it was changed right now. Anyway, reviews are about to wrap. It's been a great ride. Till Doctor Strange, I guess. But my watch has not ended yet.t:

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

They fixed it.

 

[StormC]

90% is a phenomenal rating and nobody should be disappointed because it didn't beat any arbitrary CBM benchmark. Though I guess it's good to know TDK's staying power; I doubt it will be dethroned in our lifetime.

 

[Iceman]

A lifetime can be pretty long lol.

 

[StormC]

I think it would take a shift in expectations for the genre. TDK was probably the biggest movie of the 2000s in terms of impact and resonance it had within pop culture. The genre is much more saturated now compared to 2008.

 

[Erzengel]

I dunno LOTR came out that decade too. Maybe in terms of the genre it elevated the bar. But in terms of legacy, we now got stuck with dark and gritty MOS and BvS because of TDK.

 

[Mjölnir]

I dunno LOTR came out that decade too. Maybe in terms of the genre it elevated the bar. But in terms of legacy, we now got stuck with dark and gritty MOS and BvS because of TDK.

Yes, LotR is a clearly bigger thing. Taking real genre stuff to the point of tying the record for Oscar wins is just on a completely different level. It was also so good in what it did that the inspiration for other movies actually drowned in fear of looking bad in comparison.

But even if the RT scores reflect that I don't think it's much of a mark to shoot for. It's insane enough that we can see the more spectacular and extreme super hero movies get received in the same ballpark as the more realistic and gritty ones, which you'd generally expect to work better with those that aren't into flashy action.

 

[third3ye]

Alice 2 first reviews aren't great, I guess Disney ran out of bribe money for the critics Seriously these Disney bribe conspiracies need to stop.

 

[StormC]

Yes, LotR is a clearly bigger thing. Taking real genre stuff to the point of tying the record for Oscar wins is just on a completely different level. It was also so good in what it did that the inspiration for other movies actually drowned in fear of looking bad in comparison.

The entire LOTR trilogy, sure, but I'm talking a singular movie. I think the LOTR movies bleed into each other too much for one in particular to stand out the way TDK did, especially compared to its prequel and sequel.

 

[LucDisfilm19]

Alice 2 first reviews aren't great, I guess Disney ran out of bribe money for the critics Seriously these Disney bribe conspiracies need to stop.

Agreed.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I starting to wonder of there isn't a secret society of critics dedicated to keeping down blockbusters. They must have saw this was staying in the 90's and banded together to beat it down. Of course it was all for...

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Alice 2 first reviews aren't great, I guess Disney ran out of bribe money for the critics Seriously these Disney bribe conspiracies need to stop.

I think if that were the case, John Carter and The Lone Ranger would surely have been rated as timeless classics.

 

[StormC]

Seeing Apocalypse's reviews despite Singer's three movie streak makes me wonder the chances of the Russos somehow flubbing it for IW.

 

[LucDisfilm19]

Seeing Apocalypse's reviews despite Singer's three movie streak makes me wonder the chances of the Russos somehow flubbing it for IW.

Hopefully, the Russos will keep this on their radar going into Infinity War. However, unlike Apocalypse, Infinity War will be two different films with two different titles.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

I think if that were the case, John Carter and The Lone Ranger would surely have been rated as timeless classics.

Don't forget Tomorrowland. I really wish Disney would get its act together when it comes to live action (not counting Marvel, Star Wars and movies based on animated Disney movies like Cinderella and Jungle Book). I liked John Carter and Tron Legacy, and I was really looking forward to Tomorrowland (which I haven't seen yet still), but none of those films lived up to expectations or had staying power. We really need a new Pirates of the Carribean type franchise from Disney. Not quality-wise, but staying power-wise.