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Clayface written by Mike Flanagan

I need Teddy in this. Do a Shape of Water thing:

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No need to bet. Gunn has already confirmed it's DCU.
Maybe there is some smoke about the Batman rumors after all. I don’t think Pattinson is coming to the DCU but I think Reeves might be. That will be interesting to say the least.
 
Maybe there is some smoke about the Batman rumors after all. I don’t think Pattinson is coming to the DCU but I think Reeves might be. That will be interesting to say the least.
I mean Reeves is producing multiple Batman projects. Caped Crusader, Dynamic duo and this along with the elseworlds Crime saga hes doing with Pattinson. Considering how slow he is though i dunno if he would be directing/writing for DCU as well though.
 
Do you think they're going to cast the DCU Batman for this movie?
 
I mean Reeves is producing multiple Batman projects. Caped Crusader, Dynamic duo and this along with the elseworlds Crime saga hes doing with Pattinson. Considering how slow he is though i dunno if he would be directing/writing for DCU as well though.
Reeves is slow and seems to be getting slower. Something is cooking at the DCU headquarters. In my opinion. It just seems that Gunn and Reeves are working on something big. Hopefully a Worlds Finest Movie.
 
A DC villain “horror” movie is an original idea. The DCU appears to have beaten the MCU Blade movie to the punch. Flanagan is a horror story genius and Clayface’s look should be horrifying to the general audience to say the least.
 
Bout as “random” as most mid-budget horror films.
Sure, but DC houses characters like Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Justice League and the Flash to name a few, and this is one of the earliest projects coming from DC Studios... its definitely coming across as random, and I'm not sure if there's a real strategy for this franchise to keep the general public interested in the long run.
 
Sure, but DC houses characters like Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Justice League and the Flash to name a few, and this is one of the earliest projects coming from DC Studios... its definitely coming across as random, and I'm not sure if there's a real strategy for this franchise to keep the general public interested in the long run.

Hm. You could say the same about the first few projects being CC, Superman and Peacemaker yet they're all gonna connect and already are connecting, so idk if random is the right word. (CC spoilers) Even CC has an episode referencing Sgt. Rock as a real piece of history in the DCU. Everybody thought Guadagnino being attached was "random", but turns out, not so much.

But I have no clue how they'll keep the general public's interest. That's not my job. Make unique and good looking projects and maybe they'll gain the interest of the public the old-fashioned way.
 
Hm. You could say the same about the first few projects being CC, Superman and Peacemaker yet they're all gonna connect and already are connecting, so idk if random is the right word. (CC spoilers) Even CC has an episode referencing Sgt. Rock as a real piece of history in the DCU. Everybody thought Guadagnino being attached was "random", but turns out, not so much.

But I have no clue how they'll keep the general public's interest. That's not my job. Make unique and good looking projects and maybe they'll gain the interest of the public the old-fashioned way.
It took me several seconds to remember what CC is.... Ideally, if they are rebooting a film franchise from scratch, they would greenlit projects that would surely attract the masses, so this franchise would have a longevity that would last longer than DCEU.

Clayface the movie feels like it would do the opposite and we haven't seen the results of the first DC Studios film in cinemas for this to be greenlit in the first place. I simply don't think DC Studios have a solid structure yet, for them to be making bold choices like this one that may or may not backfire. I also don't think releasing a Supergirl movie, just 1 year after the Superman movie is very smart.
 
Imagine if the recently released The Substance was a Clayface film, which made the studio profit and has awards buzz. Should they not have made it because it doesn't have Batman?

I imagine Gunn and WB believe that what would "attract the masses" back in 2008 - 2019 ( a $100-200M film for each superhero team member on a conveyor belt of release dates pushing films out the door) is not gonna fly these days, relative to the budget it would require. The quality has to be really high or the appeal has to be very strong (Deadpool v Wolverine), and so they're not gonna let brand recognition (thinking Brave and the Bold will automatically be a profitable endeavour) or a release date determine what's greenlit, but rather whatever has a unique appeal and the quality script/vision to match, within a budget that will yield a healthy profit.

I know people are eager to the DC universe and characters they want on screen, but keep in mind, the characters are not limited to the names of the slate. I mean, the villain of Creature Commandos is Circe. Come 2025, by the end of one Superman film we may leave the theatre feeling like the DCU is alive and thriving more than the DCEU ever did, Lanterns, Hawks, Watchtowers and all. For all we know, the JLA will form by the end of that film, we could see WW in the Supergirl film, or Wally West's Flash in the Waller show, who knows at this point.
 
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I dunno if it'll work out but shooting your shot by doing the classic low risk high reward budget horror movie strategy with your superhero IP is a smart experiment to run.
 
I dunno if it'll work out but shooting your shot by doing the classic low risk high reward budget horror movie strategy with your superhero IP is a smart experiment to run.

Yep. I've been advocating this for a while.

And Gunn has made clear that this is not the MCU where everything is building up to a team up film. These are distinct stories with distinct tones that share some characters and story points.
 
It took me several seconds to remember what CC is.... Ideally, if they are rebooting a film franchise from scratch, they would greenlit projects that would surely attract the masses, so this franchise would have a longevity that would last longer than DCEU.

Superman.

To your second bit; what Sword said. Clayface is no Joker, but they flipped $50M into a $B. A budget horror film isn't anything new. They have a lauded horror storyteller with a passion project in his pocket. Why not go for it? They aren't gonna sit around and wait for what happens with Superman before they make anything else.

Supergirl is certainly in Superman so that'd be a very quick turnaround on the set-up/payoff universe-crossover **** that people claim audiences love. Why is that bad now?
 
Yep. I've been advocating this for a while.

And Gunn has made clear that this is not the MCU where everything is building up to a team up film. These are distinct stories with distinct tones that share some characters and story points.
This.

I talked about it in another thread, I also believe it's a mistake to think that this new “shared universe” automatically means a cycle of movies all leading up to a big event movie every five or six years and so on, like the Marvel Studios model. There'll be a bit of that, sure, I actually strongly suspect it will be Gunn's own project within this whole DCU with direct links between CC, Peacemaker, Waller, Superman and Supergirl and who knows what's beyond.
But the rest will essentially be standalones, like Swamp Thing and Clayface, that won't necessarily have direct links to each other, but won't contradict them either. Just as, ultimately, 2005's Constantine could have been set in a different corner of the world from Batman Begins. And if one day, someone wants to have all these characters meeting-up in one movie, it's up to them to make the artistic concessions. But in the meantime, everyone's free.

In a perfect scenario, DC Studios could become an equivalent of A24, but with licenses derived from comics. A studio seeking first and foremost to offer “unusual” projects, with distinct and affirmed visions.
It would be the best way to stand out from the competition and overcome possible genre fatigue, as well as being (and this is for me the most important) the most noble and sincere way of approaching adaptations.
 
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This.

I talked about this in another thread, I also believe it's a mistake to think that this new “shared universe” automatically means a cycle of movies all leading up to the big event movie five or six years later and so on. There'll be a bit of that, I strongly suspect it's actually Gunn's own project within this whole DCU with direct links between CC, Peacemaker, Waller, Superman and Supergirl and who knows what's beyond.
But the rest will essentially be standalones, like Swamp Thing and Clayface, that won't necessarily have direct links to each other, but won't contradict them either. Just as, ultimately, 2005's Constantine could have been set in a different corner of the world from Batman Begins. If one day, someone wants to cross paths with these characters, it's up to them to make the artistic concessions, but in the meantime, everyone's free.

In a perfect scenario, DC Studios could become an equivalent of A24, but with licenses derived from comics. A studio offering “unusual” projects, with distinct and affirmed visions.
It's the best way to stand out from the competition and overcome possible genre fatigue, as well as being, and this is for me the most important, the most noble and sincere way of approaching an adaptation.

^ This.

And if Reeves has indeed decided to merge his universe with the DCU as people seem to be hinting, this would be the reason why.

He and Gunn can share versions of the same character without having to constantly sacrifice portions of their movies to set up something they have no involvement in.

In that way, a low budget Clayface movie releasing before Batman II featuring Clayface could actually make sense.
 
^ This.

And if Reeves has indeed decided to merge his universe with the DCU as people seem to be hinting, this would be the reason why.

He and Gunn can share versions of the same character without having to constantly sacrifice portions of their movies to set up something they have no involvement in.

In that way, a low budget Clayface movie releasing before Batman II featuring Clayface could actually make sense.
I think with REEVES mature (David Fincher) aesthetic this would be a mistake. Also, there doesn't seem to be any room for fantastical villains in REEVES vision which was already made clear to be Else worlds or Earth 2 material. Brave and the Bold will and should be separate from REEVES.
 
I *highly* doubt that C-lister like Clayface gets his own movie AND a part in the next Batman movie (whichever 'universe'). This news actually makes me think for sure he's NOT showing up as a main or even secondary villain for Batman anytime soon.
Unless it's like an animated project.
 

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