Color Blind Casting

[StrainedEyes]

We can say the same thing about Angelina Jolie playing Mairane Pearl. For respect for the actual person they could of got bi-racial woman. But the producers (including Angelina) thought she was right for the part.

Obviously she was going for the illusion that she was the person. That's the point, she wasn't Angelina playing Mairane, she was supposed to be Mairane.

Now when Keanu played a Hindu, that was a different story.

If the actor can pull off the illusion that they are the character, then fine. I just don't see many Hispanic actors wanting to act and be in makeup to hide the fact that they are Hispanic just to play Superman.

 

[Abaddon]

Obviously she was going for the illusion that she was the person. That's the point, she wasn't Angelina playing Mairane, she was supposed to be Mairane.

Now when Keanu played a Hindu, that was a different story.

If the actor can pull off the illusion that they are the character, then fine. I just don't see many Hispanic actors wanting to act and be in makeup to hide the fact that they are Hispanic just to play Superman.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

 

[Mr. Socko]

That is what I mean. Yes, thank you.


And Superman isn't white at all. He is Kryptonian.

Krypton is a planet therefore a nationality not an ethnic group.

 

[SapphirePrima]

Obviously she was going for the illusion that she was the person. That's the point, she wasn't Angelina playing Mairane, she was supposed to be Mairane.

Now when Keanu played a Hindu, that was a different story.

If the actor can pull off the illusion that they are the character, then fine. I just don't see many Hispanic actors wanting to act and be in makeup to hide the fact that they are Hispanic just to play Superman.

You don't think an hispanic actor would want to play Superman because he would have to wear makeup.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Some actors can pull off playing a different race, some can't. But this thread is not about hiding in another race, it's about completely changing the race of an established character just so a particular actor/ress can get the role.

 

[Abaddon]

Some actors can pull off playing a different race, some can't. But this thread is not about hiding in another race, it's about completely changing the race of an established character just so a particular actor/ress can get the role.

and you think Angelina pulled it off?

 

[Savage]

EDIT: Okay, just refering to established characters and historical figures here.

If the actor fits the character and their racial background has no baring on the character itself then I see no problem with it. It gets tricky when the character is preestablished though. It's best to keep as close to the source as possible unless all other choices have been exhausted. Kingpin for example. For one it's cheaper to go for someone that is actually that size and can act than to find some body builder with little to no acting experience or a brilliant actor and make them eat and work out for two years to get that big. I can't begin to tell you how difficult and damn near impossible the latter is.

Making someone like Superman black for the sake of it would just be ridiculous. It is too radical a change. A light skinned hispanic person? Sure. Hell I would even be okay with asian. Light skin, black hair, just put on some contacts, you're there.

I know someone will bring up Bond but it's much easier to go from a brown hair white person to a blonde haired white person no matter what part of the globe they are from. If Bond was black all of a sudden then it would be quite jarring.

You just can't stray too far away from the basic look or features. I guess I'm just trying to say you can't rule out color blind casting but it's not completely okay either. As long as the physical appearance is passable or even explainable then it's okay.

 

[StrainedEyes]

and you think Angelina pulled it off?

I didn't say she did, nor do I like Angelina or think she's a good actress. But there is a difference between becoming a character and changing a character to fit the actor.

 

[Mr. Socko]

How about Wes Craven's Vampire in Brooklyn? Haven't seen it in a long time but I think Murphy was Dracula in there.

 

[StrainedEyes]

How about Wes Craven's Vampire in Brooklyn? Haven't seen it in a long time but I think Murphy was Dracula in there.

It fit the story.

Obviously if we make a Spider-man movie about a boy in africa. He isn't going to be a nerdy white kid. We shouldn't do that to an established character, but if it had to be done atleast make it make sense.

 

[Abaddon]

It fit the story.

Obviously if we make a Spider-man movie about a boy in africa. He isn't going to be a nerdy white kid. We shouldn't do that to an established character, but if it had to be done atleast make it make sense.

He could still be an African nerdy white kid.

 

[StrainedEyes]

He could still be an African nerdy white kid.

As long as he has the glasses.

 

[SapphirePrima]

It fit the story.

Obviously if we make a Spider-man movie about a boy in africa. He isn't going to be a nerdy white kid. We shouldn't do that to an established character, but if it had to be done atleast make it make sense.

Color-blind casting is where race in all is ignored. So there would be no point in putting the movie in Africa if he was black. It'd be a different story.

 

[Mr. Socko]

There are many white Africans lol

 

[StrainedEyes]

Color-blind casting is where race in all is ignored. So there would be no point in putting the movie in Africa if he was black. It'd be a different story.

Well than no, Color-blind casting will never be full accepted, And should not happen with well established characters. There's no point to it, make an original story.

I don't want a Black Indiana Jones
I don't want a White Detective Cross

Call it racist, call it whatever. But it should not be done with established characters.

And even though you can argue it, Peter Parker being white is a part of that character that effects who that character is. Same thing with Bruce Wayne or Wolverine or Luke SKywalker. It's just how the world works.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

There are many white Africans lol

True, because 'African' is a nationality. That's why I don't understand the whole African-American thing. What's wrong with being just an American? I am not an Irish-Native American-American.

 

[SapphirePrima]

Well than no, Color-blind casting will never be full accepted, And should not happen with well established characters. There's no point to it, make an original story.

I don't want a Black Indiana Jones
I don't want a White Detective Cross

Call it racist, call it whatever. But it should not be done with established characters.

So I'm guessing you hated the Cinderella they did a few year back with Brandi and Bernadete Peters?

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

Depends on the setting and theme of the movie

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Well than no, Color-blind casting will never be full accepted, And should not happen with well established characters. There's no point to it, make an original story.

I don't want a Black Indiana Jones
I don't want a White Detective Cross

Call it racist, call it whatever. But it should not be done with established characters.

And even though you can argue it, Peter Parker being white is a part of that character that effects who that character is. Same thing with Bruce Wayne. It's just how the world works.

I don't think you're racist at all. Just very consistent, thorough, and forthright in your view...and that's good!

I find the closer you stray to 'color-blind' casting, the bigger an issue race becomes, because you become so preoccupied with the racial issue, you focus more on that than on objective and appropriate casting.

 

[SapphirePrima]

True, because 'African' is a nationality. That's why I don't understand the whole African-American thing. What's wrong with being just an American? I am not an Irish-Native American-American.

How else do we fill out the race section on applicatons? If race wasn't such a big deal this thread would of been made neither would that section on an application.

 

[Warhammer]

Krypton is a planet therefore a nationality not an ethnic group.

But remember, white people are humans.
Therefore, it'd be politically incorrect for Supes to be white, since he is Kryptonian.

How about Wes Craven's Vampire in Brooklyn? Haven't seen it in a long time but I think Murphy was Dracula in there.

Murphy was just a random vampire.
I don't think it was implied that he was Dracula.

True, because 'African' is a nationality. That's why I don't understand the whole African-American thing. What's wrong with being just an American? I am not an Irish-Native American-American.

That's why it bothers me when black people are called African-Americans. They are Black. White people are not from Caucasia, so they aren't Caucasian, etc.

 

[Gilpesh]

So I'm guessing you hated the Cinderella they did a few year back with Brandi and Bernadete Peters?

Cinderella can easily be black.

 

[Savage]

^^^I honestly think black works just fine considering I'm neither african nor american.

 

[Gilpesh]

True, because 'African' is a nationality. That's why I don't understand the whole African-American thing. What's wrong with being just an American? I am not an Irish-Native American-American.

Stop making a point. JACKASS!



We don't need that in this thread!

 

[SapphirePrima]

Cinderella can easily be black.

I'm not sure if I should take offense to this.