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[Wolvieboy17]

Wasn't there another character/villain confirmed early on? Ahhhhh, i've totally forgotton his name now... Executioner perhaps? My Thor mythology is so rusty.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Exact feeling I got. Your music video set analogy was spot on.

I was afraid of this when I first heard they were cutting back on the budget because of the uncertainty with how the film would do. My nagging impression is of a sci-fi channel movie.

I'd also add that Hemsworth's look was fantastic, but his line delivery and acting were a bit disappointing.

With luck, post production will smooth out some of the edges, and the film will do well enough for them to go all in on Thor 2 and really splurge.

Even though I liked the trailer, I do agree with pretty much all you said.

 

[E.Brock]

(Anthony Hopkins in a commanding Odin Voice Speaks as Thor bows before him)

"I have sacrificed much..to achieve peace, so too must a new generation sacrifice to maintain that peace. Responsibility, duty, HONOR...these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire, they are essential to every soldier...to every king. Thor Odinson...for your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives....to the horror, to the devastation of war"

(cut to Odin standing before Thor speaking in a spiteful tone)

"You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy"

(Thor in an enraged state screams.. "AND YOU ARE A OLD MAN AND A FOOL!!"

(Odin now somber sad tone) "yes, I was a fool...to think you were ready"

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

(Cut to Odin ripping thor's cape from his body) "YOUR UNWORTHY OF YOUR TITLE!!!"

"I know take from you, your power" (Thors hammer drops from his hand)

Odin - "In the name of my father, and his father before...I CAST YOU OUT"


Thor awakes on Midgard (Earth).....EPICCCCCCCCCCCCC

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I was confused about the cape bit. Thor's title is somehow conveyed through his cape? What's that about?

But cool scene, regardless.

 

[Rock Sexton]

The thing I like about how they're tackling Thor--especially that line about magic and science being the same to the Asgardians--is that they're leaving it ambiguous whether he's magical or technological. The look of everything is a bit futuristic, but so was the look of Kirby's take on Asgard. The Asgardians had advanced technology right alongside their bona fide magic like Mjolnir and Odin's sorcery in the early comics, too. It looks like they're striving to walk that very fine line in the movie where there's just enough on either side of the magic/tech divide to allow audience members to interpret for themselves whether the Asgardians are magical gods or technological aliens or something in-between. Personally, I go with the former, but there's nothing to directly contradict the latter interpretations for those who aren't as comfortable with the idea of genuine pagan gods becoming superheroes.

Actually I interpreted it as a plot moving device ala Deus Ex Machina. It's Marvel's way of saying to the audience "this is our explanation" for how they're supposed to bite on magic being in a real world setting, especially come Avengers.

I was confused about the cape bit. Thor's title is somehow conveyed through his cape? What's that about?

But cool scene, regardless.

I loved that part.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't know, I get what you guys mean about the whole 'music video look' but I quite like that the Asgard scenes had a distinctly different look to things on earth. The earth scenes seemed alot more like Iron Man 1 & 2 in terms of picture quality and tone, and I honestly prefer the futuristic look for Asgard than just another cut and paste Lord of the Ringsesque fantasy world. You can see that effort has actually gone into the design. Also, I don't know why you'd fault Hemsworth's acting from that trailer alone lol. He says what, maybe 4 lines? None of which are really revealing anyway. All we can garner from that is what accent he's using, and I'm quite happy with the neutral british accent, with the hint of upper class regality. I'm very interested to see more of this film though, it's looking quite interesting.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't think the cape is literally his power... I'm sure the scene involves all his armour and everything being stripped away, not just his cape. The cape probably denotes royalty, its clearly a symbolic thing.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually I interpreted it as a plot moving device ala Deus Ex Machina. It's Marvel's way of saying to the audience "this is our explanation" for how they're supposed to bite on magic being in a real world setting, especially come Avengers.

Well, there was no other way to do it, really. If they came down firmly in favor of either explanation, they would've alienated part of the audience. I certainly couldn't be as satisfied with a Thor movie where the gods are definitely debunked as simply technologically advanced aliens. I know this because they've tried to insert that explanation into some alternate universes in the comics and it always, always, always falls flat for me. Thor loses a bit of his luster if I can't personally believe that he's the true god of myth he claims to be. I suspect people who demand that the movies remain grounded would feel the same if they came down firmly in favor of the magic explanation, too. What they did seemed like a good compromise that allows everyone to interpret it for themselves and be happy.

 

[ultimatefan]

Given that the Lee/Kirby interpretation of the mythos is also dubious on the magical/technological aspect of Asgard, I can live with it. Plus, it leaves them open to not strictly follow norse mythology, which the comics don´t as well - Thor is actually pretty sleazy in norse mythology, if you read how he´s interpreted in the Sandman storyline Season of Mists, that´s much closer to actual mythology. A la X-Files and others, leave it to the audience to decide whether they´re Gods or not.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, if they followed Norse mythology verbatim, Thor and all the other Asgardians would be much closer to outright villains, bullies, and cheats than noble superheroes. Stan Lee definitely injected a lot of his own preconceived notions about nobility and responsibility into his adaptation of Thor. But the nice thing is that Thor's lesson in humility actually ties it all together and makes it plausible that he could be something close to the violent, angry bully he is in the myths and later on the superhero that he is in the comics.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I agree Corp. It is the sensible option, but it doesn't feel tacky or cliched to me. After all, this approach is pretty much used with any narrative where magic meets logical world. Isn't that the whole angle in Harry Potter? Magic is essentially the technology of that world. Besides, It doesn't seem like the use of 'magic' will be particularly overt. It's not like Thor is going to be using 'Wingardium Leviosa' on anyone... Although he may summon a big f**k off lighting bolt to blast away a mofo.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.

edit: Thinking about it some more, that could also be what all the tilted camerawork is trying to help convey. Gilliam did the same thing in all the asylum scenes in 12 Monkeys.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

The Corpulent1,based on the footage,I would say that the Asgardians lean towards both,but being more on the magical side than the advanced technology side. Hence the techy looking place in the footage which has lead me to that conclusion,I have also come to a possible conclusion that the lion roar Thor had may have been a deliberate metaphor for an animalistic side. And that perhaps only certain Asgardians can behave that way.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree Corp. It is the sensible option, but it doesn't feel tacky or cliched to me. After all, this approach is pretty much used with any narrative where magic meets logical world. Isn't that the whole angle in Harry Potter? Magic is essentially the technology of that world. Besides, It doesn't seem like the use of 'magic' will be particularly overt. It's not like Thor is going to be using 'Wingardium Leviosa' on anyone... Although he may summon a big f**k off lighting bolt to blast away a mofo.

Thor's definitely always had a more visceral type of magic. His powers may derive from magical sources, but in practice he's gonna basically just hit you in the face with his hammer or throw you through a wall or blast you with lightning.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.

That scene toward the end of Heimdall holding his sword and snarling was f***ing scary the first time I saw it.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I found this a bit weird in the clip but in a cool way. Odin kind of hisses at Loki like a demon from Constantine or something. It strikes me as a very surreal and alien moment, like if you were just some dude from Earth who happened to be in the throne room right then you'd probably start ****ting bricks as you realize that these people aren't human. Heimdall's creepy eyes have a similar effect.

edit: Thinking about it some more, that could also be what all the tilted camerawork is trying to help convey. Gilliam did the same thing in all the asylum scenes in 12 Monkeys.

I love that scene because it shows the quality of acting Sir Anthony Hopkins has shown time and time again. He's delivering this solemn, disappointed father speech then BOOM his tone has jumped 100 notches and you can feel the anger in his disappointment.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Which is what I personally cannot wait to see Corp lol. Although, I think my favourite shot in that trailer is when Thor kicks the SHIELD guy through the ET quarantine material, out into the desert. I'm really pumped. Also, I think it's funny that most people seem to be worrying about the Asgard stuff, when I think the earth stuff looks far more interesting. I really think it's an interesting story to explore, the arrogant, brutish warrior who has to learn nobility. A bit like Daniel Craig as James Bond, I think.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

heh I'm 49.
I went to the Kubert School WITH Adam and Andy Kubert in my CLASS, Jim Balent sat behind me, Eric Schanoer was in the room over, same year tho 2nd year.
I'm not ANCIENT but yeah I've been following Thor for YEARS!

Ah well, I hope the movie lives upto expectations for then Vartha.

 

[ALP]

The trailer was leaked so can't be posted here right?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Correct. Feel free to talk about it, though.

 

[piccolo]

(Anthony Hopkins in a commanding Odin Voice Speaks as Thor bows before him)

"I have sacrificed much..to achieve peace, so too must a new generation sacrifice to maintain that peace. Responsibility, duty, HONOR...these are not mere virtues to which we must aspire, they are essential to every soldier...to every king. Thor Odinson...for your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives....to the horror, to the devastation of war"

(cut to Odin standing before Thor speaking in a spiteful tone)

"You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy"

(Thor in an enraged state screams.. "AND YOU ARE A OLD MAN AND A FOOL!!"

(Odin now somber sad tone) "yes, I was a fool...to think you were ready"

(Loki at this point tries to gain Odin's attention but is fearcely silenced by Odin)

(Cut to Odin ripping thor's cape from his body) "YOUR UNWORTHY OF YOUR TITLE!!!"

"I know take from you, your power" (Thors hammer drops from his hand)

Odin - "In the name of my father, and his father before...I CAST YOU OUT"


Thor awakes on Midgard (Earth).....EPICCCCCCCCCCCCC

Reading it, that really is some kick ass dialogue. Unfortunately, I don't find Hopkins' voice commanding at all, more like an english gentleman than an all-powerful lord of asgard, and Hemsworth sounded contrived.

OTOH, Loki was very good.

All of the dialogue I heard from the trailer was great, they have good writers. Just the delivery is somewhat of a disappointment with all of them. Eh, just my opinion though, I can still see why everyone is so excited.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The delivery's awesome to me. Hopkins' especially. I've noticed I'm reading Odin in the comics with his voice in my head now.

 

[batsfan81]

So the scene when Thors' on earth and the Warriors three and Sif are behind him, can we assume he's looking at the Destroyer? Then he goes gets the hammer since he's worthy and then its hammer time? And then goes back to Asgard to fight Loki?

 

[Anubis Raptor]

I'm looking forward to the scene where Thor takes on the whole fleet of guards in the rain. Looks epic and goosebump evoking

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So the scene when Thors' on earth and the Warriors three and Sif are behind him, can we assume he's looking at the Destroyer? Then he goes gets the hammer since he's worthy and then its hammer time? And then goes back to Asgard to fight Loki?

Probably something like that. I imagine it's when the Destroyer figures out where Thor is and Thor, human or not, decides he's gotta come out of hiding and face it for the sake of Jane and the other humans. You can see the determination on Chris' face as he walks in that scene, which implies to me that he's steeling himself for a big showdown he knows he can't win.