Community - Part 3

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Good luck finding a gig better than this....

I doubt he needs the work. He hated doing TV. Now he doesn't have to. He's set for life with all the movies he made. He's not gonna lose any sleep over leaving.

I loved tonight's episode. It wasn't one of their all time greatest bu I was very happy to see it back. So far, so good. Nothing seems to have changed yet.
 
Eh... it wasn't "bad" but it wasn't good.

I'm scared.

I feel like they're just going to push/overdo things we love about this show and not create anything new. All this about change, Dean making too many "dean" puns and so forth...

Forced =/= Meta

The only things that felt like real Community were the Abed TV; Blind/Blonde and American Sword Cooks show titles, and Asian Annie popping out of nowhere.
 
I thought it was a good episode. Some of the typical meta stuff seemed a little forced but for the most part it went pretty smoothly.
 
My goodness this just isn't funny. They're forcing the pop culture references and self-referential humor.

This is what happens when you remove the heart from something. Nice job, NBC.
 
I stopped watching halfway through my recording to switch to Parks and Rec. I won't give up on the show just yet though.
 
Yeah,It wasn't that good.The only parts I really liked were Troy and Britta at the wishing well and the really odd ending.
 
It wasn't bad, it just wasn't...funny. I can't remember laughing once. "Blind/Blonde" was amusing I guess, but that was still only a smirk.
 
So am I the only one loved the episode? Sure it felt off but we just haven't gotten used to this season's style. The show reinvents itself each season. This is no different.
 
Britta and Troy at the pond was the only time I laughed.

It's just one episode in...I'm not trippin.
 
Ahhhhh, the Internet: Where people love to hate.

I've got this theory about watching television. If you've invested at least 3 years watching a show and the next and (quite possibly) last season starts.....you should probably just sit there, be quiet and enjoy it while it lasts.
 
Eh... it wasn't "bad" but it wasn't good.

I'm scared.

I feel like they're just going to push/overdo things we love about this show and not create anything new. All this about change, Dean making too many "dean" puns and so forth...

Forced =/= Meta

The only things that felt like real Community were the Abed TV; Blind/Blonde and American Sword Cooks show titles, and Asian Annie popping out of nowhere.

That already started to happen last season, IMO. For all the praise fanboys give him, they seem to ignore that Harmon is the one who started the Flanderization of this show. I was hoping a new showrunner could get it back on track, back to season 2 form....neither ridiculously meta or ridiculously safe. Looks like we're just going to get deeper and deeper into the Flanderization that Harmon started. Oh well, I'll stick around to the end, regardless as it is still enjoyable.

Oddly enough, I am guessing if Dan Harmon were still on the show, his fans would be praising this as the greatest episode yet and calling all of the meta stuff brilliant. Look at how much undue praise the 8-bit episode gets, after all.
 
I'm in no way a Harmon fanboy. Wtf has the dude done before this? Heat Vision and Jack is basically all I even know about. Screw that, something is different and off and it doesn't take a 4 year old to figure that out. I'll watch and I'll probably even love it because I love the characters but the days of me eagerly awaiting this show every week is over and has been since last year. The hiatus last year killed the momentum of the season then all the ******** drama and now this. Oh well, those 3 seasons are ****ing gold and this will at least provide some laughs and probably a little closure. There are other shows. Lots and lots of other shows
 
I'm in no way a Harmon fanboy. Wtf has the dude done before this? Heat Vision and Jack is basically all I even know about. Screw that, something is different and off and it doesn't take a 4 year old to figure that out. I'll watch and I'll probably even love it because I love the characters but the days of me eagerly awaiting this show every week is over and has been since last year. The hiatus last year killed the momentum of the season then all the ******** drama and now this. Oh well, those 3 seasons are ****ing gold and this will at least provide some laughs and probably a little closure. There are other shows. Lots and lots of other shows

My point is, something has been off since about half way through last season when Harmon bought into the show's hype and Flanderized the **** out of it. This season is just a natural progression of that. The show is in Family Guy-mode. It is going to go so far over the top that it just becomes unwatchable unless NBC mercy kills it at the end of this season.
 
So am I the only one loved the episode? Sure it felt off but we just haven't gotten used to this season's style. The show reinvents itself each season. This is no different.

You are not alone. I loved it. Everyone else must have forgotten all the funny parts. I can only assume they have Changnesia.
 
I think if I saw last night's episode, it would be better, but it really was a lot to handle in 22 minutes of story.
 
I'm in no way a Harmon fanboy. Wtf has the dude done before this?

The Sarah Silverman Program...which I loved. It was a show made to be enjoyed while smoking pot and I still enjoyed it without weed....lol.

As far as the first episode of Community goes...I actually enjoyed it a lot. Great amount of laughs and it actually looks like they are heading for it to have some kind of closure on the last episode which is good in case it does start going down Suck Road which looks streets ahead.
 
Just finished watching it, I can see why some have issues with the first episode, and it does feel forced but I honestly had no issues with it.
 
Oddly enough, I am guessing if Dan Harmon were still on the show, his fans would be praising this as the greatest episode yet and calling all of the meta stuff brilliant. Look at how much undue praise the 8-bit episode gets, after all.
No, because this episode was soulless. It was like a fan-fiction written by people that like the show, but have no deeper understanding of the characters.

I didn't think anything in season 3 was forced. All the characters' actions and lines in the season 4 premiere were.
 
I'm not counting this out at all. I liked, but didn't love the ep. It's some of the same writers so I'm going to keep my eyes open until around the halfway point of the season. If it seems like it's changed way too much or gotten bad I might bail. Not because of Harmon (I don't care), it would be because it's bad. I haven't seen enough to make that call yet.
My wife and I were saying the episode seemed really short. That was the strangest thing to me.
 
That already started to happen last season, IMO. For all the praise fanboys give him, they seem to ignore that Harmon is the one who started the Flanderization of this show. I was hoping a new showrunner could get it back on track, back to season 2 form....neither ridiculously meta or ridiculously safe. Looks like we're just going to get deeper and deeper into the Flanderization that Harmon started. Oh well, I'll stick around to the end, regardless as it is still enjoyable.

Oddly enough, I am guessing if Dan Harmon were still on the show, his fans would be praising this as the greatest episode yet and calling all of the meta stuff brilliant. Look at how much undue praise the 8-bit episode gets, after all.

My god, there is so much truth in this. And for all the complaints about Chevy, I see why he's so pissed about his character and why he's so pissed about the development of the other characters. They've become very unlikable and like you said, flanderized versions of themselves, with Pierce becoming worse and worse. In Season 2, he was a jerk, and you could tell they didn't really know where to take him in Season 3.

But because this is essentially a show for fanboy/geek culture, message boards aren't really gonna criticize anything, as long as they get meta references and alison brie being cute.
 
The show has shifted toward more and more weird and over the top humor. But I don't think it's a bad thing.
 
Anyway, I liked this episode. I didn't love it, but I liked it. It was good. I think it's biggest flaw was that, for a season premier, it didn't focus on the whole cast. Shirley and Pierce didn't do much of anything and Troy Britta and Annie just had small bits. It was basically a Jeff/Abed episode. I feel like season premiers need more of a whole cats focus.
 
Don't get me wrong, I look forward to the coming season with great anticipation, but there was just too many disparate sideplots crammed into one show in this episode. You had the main story almost exclusively focussed on Jeff and the Dean, then you had Abed's metaphysical adventure (which is normally the A plot, and often the focus of the whole episode) that kind of disrupted the whole episode. And to make use of the other characters, who more or less were excluded from the A and B plotline, you had Troy and Britta having a somewhat incredulous couples fight and Annie and Shirley in a senior's prank story that kind of goes nowhere. And Pierce is left in the corner sitting in his own filth.

This first episode was full of great ideas, but just too much was crammed into 22 minutes.
 
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