Constantine General Discussion Thread

[Fallen Angel]

Exactly so it was one arc it's not a definitive characteristic that he's bi. I think it was in Azarello's run where it was brought up.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Spectre and Dr. Fate this early on?! so awesome

 

[S. Grundy]

Exactly so it was one arc it's not a definitive characteristic that he's bi. I think it was in Azarello's run where it was brought up.

Nevertheless it is canon, even in the New 52 apparently. It's such a minor thing, they could have said he was bi and still not dwell on it in the series. That said, the smoking is a way bigger character trait than his sexuality, on top being integral plot element to his story.

 

[chamber-music]

Considering that one of his crowning moments in the comics was a direct result of his constant chainsmoking... yes, yes it is a defining trait. As for the show. One thing really, really irks me, Constantine comes off as a bit of a suck up to heaven, whining that his soul is damned. Considering, that Constantine in the comics, despises heaven as much as hell because he considers them a bunch of litte tyrants and god a madman, him whining to the angel and searching redemption is a bit of a slap in the face. That and his trenchcoat is way to short. ^^

The whole my soul is damned to hell so I'm going to do good deeds stuff from the movie and possibly this show is a bit cliché and used because they don't think audiences will go for a morally grey character I imagine.

Comic John is more likely to con Hell or Heaven into saving his soul. If John is doing errands for heaven then he better have some scheme or long con he is running in which he gets something out of the deal.

With John Constantine if he does something for him then you owe him a debt that you better pray he never asks to be repaid.

 

[Mr_336]

Being upset about the smoking, I understand. I personally don't give a ****, but I understand because that's his trademark and leads to a few important storylines (ones they probably wouldn't want to adapt anyway since they're doing their own thing). But the bisexual thing... Wasn't that mentioned like... Twice in the comics?

1) A throwaway line
2) Part of a revenge con (and used for shock value)

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Lord Valumart]

The hell is that? Some kind of press pack book?

 

[Sawyer]

Tote bags they sell at SDCC.

 

[Lord Valumart]

There's no way in hell I would ever have guessed that to be a bag...

 

[chamber-music]

Constantine has always had classic literary Byronic hero traits and characteristics.

Is usually male and is always considered very attractive physically and in terms of personality, possessing a great deal of magnetism and charisma, using these abilities to achieve social and romantic dominance. One mark against him personality wise, however, is a struggle with his own personal integrity.

Is very intelligent, perceptive, sophisticated, educated, cunning and adaptable, but also self-centered.

Is emotionally sensitive, which may translate into being emotionally conflicted, bipolar, or moody.

Is intensely self-critical and introspective and may be described as dark and brooding.

He dwells on the pains or perceived injustices of his life, often to the point of over-indulgence. May muse philosophically on the circumstances that brought him to this point, including personal failings.

Is cynical, world-weary, and jaded, often due to a mysterious Dark and Troubled Past, which, if uncovered, may reveal a significant loss, or a crime or mistake committed which still haunts him, or, conversely, that he may be suffering from some unnamed crime against him.

He is extremely passionate, with strong personal beliefs which are usually in conflict with the values of the status quo. He sees his own values and passions as above or better than those of others, manifesting as arrogance or a martyr-like attitude. Sometimes, however, he just sees himself as one who must take the long, hard road to do what must be done.

His intense drive and determination to live out his philosophy without regard to others' philosophies produces conflict, and may result in a tragic end, should he fail, or revolution, should he succeed. Because of this, he is very rebellious, having a distaste for social institutions and norms and is disrespectful of rank and privilege, though he often has said rank and privilege himself. This rebellion often leads to social isolation, rejection, or exile, or to being treated as an outlaw, but he will not compromise, being unavoidably self-destructive.

 

[Mr_336]

Looks like Ryan (and Griffiths before her exit) isn't the only one reading the trades...

 

[Sawyer]

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Can't wait for @NBCConstantine at @Comic_Con this week. Epic! @mattryanreal @AngelicaCelaya pic.***********/0X2cf1Fv5a

 

[CapedCrusader14]

So I got the opportunity to see the pilot. Not being familiar with the original source material I don't have too much to contribute but I quite enjoyed it, will definitely be tuning in to it.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[TheUnknownX]

Has anyone contacted John yet? You'll hear a familiar name!

 

[Jason Kane]

Strange that iZombie isn't among the banner art but still

 

[Jason Kane]

He's smoking!

https://vine.co/v/M0z1it1UYda

 

[Fallen Angel]

Has anyone contacted John yet? You'll hear a familiar name!

Alec Holland?

Swamp Thing me likey. t:

 

[Sawyer]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54393

Goyer announced that the composer for the series is Bear McCreary of "The Walking Dead" and "Agents of SHIELD" fame -- he made a brief appearance onstage.

 

[Sawyer]

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Dat McCreary.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Nice!

 

[Jason Kane]

Im so pumped for this. October, hurry the hell up!!

 

[Jason Kane]

According to this article, there was another change made to the pilot and

Spoiler

it appears the CGI demon has been replaced with a darkly mirror version of John

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/constantine-screens-revamped-pilot-at-comic-con

 

[Fallen Angel]

According to this article, there was another change made to the pilot and

Spoiler

it appears the CGI demon has been replaced with a darkly mirror version of John

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/constantine-screens-revamped-pilot-at-comic-con

Wow that be cool just hope that his niece (Gemma) isn't introduced in season 1. I remember reading I forget which issue #275 or 6 I think

Spoiler

where Demon Constantine rapes her and she goes crazy.

 

[Jason Kane]

Wow that be cool just hope that his niece (Gemma) isn't introduced in season 1. I remember reading I forget which issue #275 or 6 I think

Spoiler

where Demon Constantine rapes her and she goes crazy.

I'll forever hate Peter Milligan for ****ing up the book and in turn have yet to forgive Karen (Berger) and Shelly (Bond) for not reminding him to write like a professional and not a amateur but seeing as the 3 headed kraken of Didio/Lee/Johns weakened Vertigo it was out of the two's hands.

For our sake let's pray Goyer's not a fan of that run and ignore everything from it as possible.

MILLIGAAAAANNN!!!!!!!! MILLIGAAAAAAN!!!!!