scarlet-witch
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I want more green blades, personally.
Damnit Darth, I didn't need to cry...
I want more green blades, personally.
I'm really looking forward to seeing Luke's green blade in the new film. The blue blade in TFA was gorgeous in those night scenes. I love what Abrams did with the blades being so vibrant and them giving off a lot of light that lit up the user and surrounding environment. Luke wielding his green blade at night on Ahch-to is gonna be. If Rian Johnson ditches the bright vibrant effect and goes back to the old style blades that don't cast their light around as vibrantly I'm gonna be so disappointed.
Not to jump ship, but Daisy said Rey's parents are in the movie... So.. looks like Kylo and Rey may actually be spins on Jacen and Jaina Solo.. either that or Luke and Maz had her haha
TFA final cut said:HAN: Theres nothing more we could have done. Theres too much Vader in him.
LEIA: Thats why I wanted him to train with Luke. I just never should have sent him away. Thats when I lost him. (pause) Thats when I lost you both. (pause)
HAN: We both had to deal with it in our own way. I went back to the only thing I was ever any good at.
LEIA: We both did.
HAN: We lost our son. Forever.
how to twist this dialogue 'Christopher Nolan style' said:HAN: Theres nothing more you and I could have done. Theres too much Vader in Ben.
LEIA: Thats why I wanted Ben to train with Luke. I just never should have sent Ben away. Thats when I lost Ben. (pause) Thats when I lost you and Ben both. (pause)
HAN: Ben and I both had to deal with her death in our own way. I went back to the only thing I was ever any good at.
LEIA: You and I both did.
HAN: You and I lost our son. Forever.
No matter how much fans want it, I can't buy the idea that Rey is Han and Leia's daughter.
Luke or Leia's, I just want her to be a Skywalker.
Luke or Leia's, I just want her to be a Skywalker.
Luke's daughter, She has the Skywalker mannerisms as well as a familiar path like Luke's.
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They're all playing games (some handcuffed by NDA or other obligation like Abrams feels he owes Rian Johnson) when answering questions which is so typical of these big productions to avoid directly revealing the future and hitting the bullseye on the dartboard.
To me the sequel trilogy works best as a Shakespearean type of tragedy where the hero meets her family as they meet their demise. Her ultimate belonging will be with the Jedi, because going back to halcyon days of the family is impossible.
0) Halcyon days of the mother, father, and son and daughter
1) Daughter 'died' (backstory) and is reborn as 'Rey'
2) Son is sent away from the mother and father to the Jedi uncle
3) Son 'died' (backstory) and is reborn as 'Kylo Ren'
4) Mother and father become estranged
5) 'Rey' is swept up into events of galactic importance
6) 'Rey' meets the father
7) 'Rey' meets 'Kylo Ren' and they have many antagonistic encounters
8) 'Kylo Ren' kills the father
9) 'Rey' meets the mother
10) 'Rey' is sent away to the Jedi uncle
11) Mother's fate isn't looking so rosy in the future
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The other thing we learn in TFA is that Rey is Kylo Ren's equal in the Force. Which makes sense when they are both cut from the same cloth.
If Rey was Leia and Han's daughter it would have come up in Bloodline. Leia never once mentions or even thinks about a daughter. Only Ben.
The novel author said she wasn't privy to the future plans about Rey's parentage and they (Lucasfilm) aren't putting the big future movie spoilers/reveals in the books (i.e. the first Aftermath book withheld that Han and Leia were married and that Leia was pregnant at the time. It wasn't until the second book that it was integrated into the plot.) See also: New York Comic Con panel with Lucasfilm's Michael Siglain and Pablo Hidalgo and the author of Bloodline. See also: Princess Leia Royal Rebel book that says there's missing records about the life of Leia after the events of ROTJ and before the events of The Force Awakens.
The Lucasfilm Story Group over saw the writing of that book and wouldnt have allowed the author to have Leia act and think like she only has one child if she had another. Rey isnt Leia or Han's kid.
Episode VII was an attempt to recreate the structure of the OT. Abrams and Kasdan's job was to set the table and pave the way to create a shocking reveal after their movie is over.
Abrams has to talk around what they're doing (he's said he's protecting Rian Johnson's secrets).
J. J. Abrams: I loved how Star Wars had that sense of a world far beyond the borders of what you can see and have been told its one of the things it did so brilliantly. If you watch the first movie, you dont actually know exactly what the Empire is trying to do. Theyre going to rule by fear but you dont know what their end game is. You dont know what Leia is princess of. You dont yet understand who Jabba the Hutt is, even though there is a reference to him. You dont know that Vader is Lukes father, Leia is his sister but the possibility is all there. The beauty of that movie was that it was an unfamiliar world, & yet you wanted to see it expand and to see where it went. (November 2, 2013)
J. J. Abrams: What was incredible about Star Wars, among other things, was that in that first movie Vader couldve been his father, but he wasnt, you know. Leia couldve been his sister, but she wasnt. You didnt really know what the Empire was up to exactly. You didnt really understand what it meant that there was a Senate or the Dark Times or any of the references, and yet you felt the presence of all these things and you understood because it was all being referenced in a way that allowed you to fill in the blanks, and thats a very powerful thing. (May 6, 2015)
J. J. Abrams: We wanted to tell a story that had its own self-contained beginning, middle, and end but at the same time, like A New Hope, implied a history that preceded it and also hinted at a future to follow. When Star Wars first came out, it was a film that both allowed the audience to understand a new story but also to infer all sorts of exciting things that might be. In that first movie, Luke wasnt necessarily the son of Vader, he wasnt necessarily the brother of Leia, but it was all possible. The Force Awakens has this incredible advantage, not just of a passionate fan base but also of a backstory that is familiar to a lot of people. Weve been able to use what came before in a very organic way, because we didnt have to reboot anything. We didnt have to come up with a backstory that would make sense; its all there. (November 2015)
J. J. Abrams: As a fan of Star Wars, I can look at those [original trilogy] movies and both respect and love what theyve done. But working on The Force Awakens, weve had to consider them in a slightly different context. For example, its very easy to love I am your father. But when you think about how and when and where that came, Im not sure that even Star Wars itself could have supported that story point had it existed in the first film, Episode IV. Meaning: It was a massively powerful, instantly classic moment in movie history, but it was only possible because it stood on the shoulders of the film that came before it. There had been a couple of years to allow the idea of Darth Vader to sink in, to let him emerge as one of the greatest movie villains ever. Time built up everyones expectations about the impending conflict between Luke and Vader. If I am your father had been in the first film, I dont know if it would have had the resonance. I actually dont know if it would have worked. (November 2015)
J. J. Abrams: The most jaw-dropping-est thing to me, in retrospect, is that moment in Episode IV when Leia is being held and Vader goes in to torture her for information. When you think of it later, its like, Oh my God, thats his daughter. Hes going to torture his own daughter. At the time, its just scary. Then it gets just really creepy when you think about it. Its the worst. Its horrible. It is [bizarre]. But thats whats so amazing about Star Wars, too. The possibilities were so enormous. At the end of Star Wars, you didnt know who was related to whom, but anything was possible. Thats what was so cool about it. (December 9, 2015)
J. J. Abrams: The thing about Star Wars is everyone who has seen these movies thinks, you know, I am your father. Its one of the first things you think about. And, There is another. And moments like that. But when you think about those big moments and then you stop and go, oh, neither of those things were in Star Wars. You know, Star Wars didnt say that Luke was the son of Vader. Star Wars didnt say that Leia was the sister of Luke. You didnt really understand what these references were. The Empire, dark times, Clone Wars. There are these things that are discussed that dont get explained. It was Episode IV. You know, George, among the unbelievable list of brilliant things he did, dropped you into a story and respected you and said, You will infer everything necessary to understand exactly what you need to know. And thats what we tried to do with this. We knew we were going to have a moment when Snoke was going to say to Ren, Your dads in the picture. Can this movie actually also hold, you know, And Rey is this and Finn is that and this is where Poe ? It was one of those things, and again it speaks to your restraint Look, this is the first, this is an opportunity of a lifetime to write a movie that is the first of a series, and there is a story to be told. And it will be. But this movie, it felt like the droid is in the hands of your father, Han Solo was probably the one real revelatory familial piece we could get away with. (December 22, 2015)
J. J. Abrams: [What does Star Wars mean to me?] [ ] When you look at Star Wars, it is unbelievable how much they got right. Not just the story and the characters and the casting. Not just the design, not just the music. All of it. When you look at all of it, you realize how much was nailed even the references to things that happened off-camera. The things you dont know. You dont know so much in that movie, like what the Empire wants or the possibility that Darth Vader is Lukes father, or that Leia is Lukes sister. All these things exist, but none are explicit. Yet, it has that sense that this world is real and exists and is expansive. [ ] Star Wars is many things. At the core, its this family saga. Its a family drama. It is about finding your own strength and finding connections with people you wouldnt anticipate knowing. Its about secrets and causes and joining something larger than yourself. Good and evil. [ ] (Star Wars Insider magazine #162 January 2016 issue released: December 22, 2015)
OT/PT → ST
Darth Vader (villain father) → Kylo Ren (villain brother)
Luke (brother) → Rey (sister)
Leia (sister) → Han (father)
Padmé (mother) → Leia (mother)
Obi-Wan*/Yoda (mentor) → Luke (uncle mentor)
* Obi-Wan was also kind of like the brother-in-law to Anakin & Padmé (Episode III) like Luke is to Han and Leia. Obi-Wan watched over and trained Luke like an uncle.
To recreate the structure of the original trilogy....
IV - Luke's bogus family story (Luke: my dad was a spice freighter navigator! Obi-Wan: Your dad was a Jedi murdered by Vader. )
V - The implausible based on the previous film becomes possible with no explanation to the audience (Vader: No, I am your father, Luke!)
VI - Even more implausible based on the previous films becomes reality as things are finally explained to the audience (Obi-Wan: Sorry dude we hid you and your sister away from your psycho dad. Luke: Leia is my sister. I've been kissed by my sister!)
...could play out this way:
VII - Rey's bogus family story (Rey: I'm waiting on Jakku for my family to come back to Jakku.)
VIII - The implausible based on the previous film becomes possible with no explanation to the audience (Rey is Kylo Ren's sister)
IX - Even more implausible based on the previous films becomes reality as things are finally explained to the audience