Daniel Craig confirmed as new James Bond

[Retroman]

Click here to see a mega hi-res version of the promo shot of Craig in the tux.

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[Tojo]

Bond girls need to be pawns, like everyman said. Jinx just made me want to physically harm her.

Bond girls need to be physically feeble(no fighting), they need to get in trouble alot so Bond can save them, they don't have to be clever and intuitive like Bond, yet still have a personality that would attract him.

And they need to be exotic(NO AMERICANS), foreign, majorly physically attractive and have big tittays.

Case closed.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Thats fine if thats how you feel my joke earlier was just that i doubt the female viewers feel quite the same

Now you see, that is sexist, to say that all women will behave the same way.

The fact is, nobody takes the Bond girls seriously anyway. We all know what they are there for.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Now you see, that is sexist, to say that all women will behave the same way.

The fact is, nobody takes the Bond girls seriously anyway. We all know what they are there for.

I didn't say all women but a lot i talk to prefer a pro active non feeble female in action movies whose sole purpose isnt to look hot and get saved

 

[regwec]

Well I have to say that I am sick to the back teeth of hearing young men whine that Daniel Craig is not handsome enough for their tastes. Imdb is by far the worst forum on the net for this. Net Geek ( http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203330 ) is an infamous case, but there are about five other posters with usernames like "druggycraig", "uglycraig" etc who do nothing else but scream about the guy's face. The joke is that I have never heard a female call him ugly.. I think it may be jealousy, or it may be a homo-erotic adoration of Brosnan, but it sure pisses me off.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Well I have to say that I am sick to the back teeth of hearing young men whine that Daniel Craig is not handsome enough for their tastes. Imdb is by far the worst forum on the net for this. Net Geek ( http://superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203330 ) is an infamous case, but there are about five other posters with usernames like "druggycraig", "uglycraig" etc who do nothing else but scream about the guy's face. The joke is that I have never heard a female call him ugly.. I think it may be jealousy, or it may be a homo-erotic adoration of Brosnan, but it sure pisses me off.

Every woman ive shown the pic of him to says that either he is ugly or very average,the fact is that Bond has always been handsome onscreen and it will take some a while to get used to this guy,hopefully the trailer will be a clincher
In truth this is no different to all the Routh hate threads when he was cast,it's just the way this place is

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I didn't say all women but a lot i talk to prefer a pro active non feeble female in action movies whose sole purpose isnt to look hot and get saved

But you seem to think the only alternative is women who look hot and do the saving.

What we're saying is that you can have a strong female character who doesn't kick ass.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I think it may be jealousy, or it may be a homo-erotic adoration of Brosnan

Er.....speaking of which.....why do you care so much that guys are caling Craig ugly?

 

[Hunter Rider]

But you seem to think the only alternative is women who look hot and do the saving.

What we're saying is that you can have a strong female character who doesn't kick ass.

I never said she had to do the saving,as i said yesterday my favourite Bond Girl is Melina as she is a mix of the traits mentioned above as opposed to a character like Tatiana or Honey that were merely fluff

 

[regwec]

Er.....speaking of which.....why do you care so much that guys are caling Craig ugly?

Because I think that they are wrong, because my hypothesis is supported by the opinions I have heard voiced by living, breathing human females, and because these whiners seek to disproportionately represent their own prejudices as being synonomous with public opinion.

I make no exagurration when I say that around 60% of the threads started on the imdb/Casino Royale boards are devoted to bashing Craig's looks. It may be an issue in the final film, but even if it is, it is a minor issue, and I fail to see why so many young males get so hung up on it.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Because I think that they are wrong, because my hypothesis is supported by the opinions I have heard voiced by living, breathing human females, and because these whiners seek to disproportionately represent their own prejudices as being synonomous with public opinion.

I make no exagurration when I say that around 60% of the threads started on the imdb/Casino Royale boards are devoted to bashing Craig's looks. It may be an issue in the final film, but even if it is, it is a minor issue, and I fail to see why so many young males get so hung up on it.

You know Ian Fleming complained when Sean Connery was cast as 007? I think that's the mother of all complaints. On one hand, nobody complains about Connery as Bond, he's untouchable cinematic legend. On the other hand, Fleming invented Bond, for goodness' sake.

Imagine Ian Fleming on the internet, visiting messageboards and saying, "I invented Bond & Connery sux," and nobody would believe him.

 

[regwec]

What's your point? He was the author, and he had a certain face in mind when he was writing. These people are a coalition of Brosnaphiles, trolls, the confused and the obsessively jealous. It doesn't bother me that they hold their opinions, only that they whine so indefatigably.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

What's your point? He was the author, and he had a certain face in mind when he was writing. These people are a coalition of Brosnaphiles, trolls, the confused and the obsessively jealous. It doesn't bother me that they hold their opinions, only that they whine so indefatigably.

Come on, it clearly does bother you. That's why you've given all the anti-Craig posters negative labels, because you don't like the idea of 'normal people' calling Craig ugly. If they think he's unattractive, they must be weirdos or hardcore Brosnan fans - that's what you're saying.

 

[regwec]

No, I am saying that maybe half a dozen of them are weird for posting the same thing around forty-to-sixty times a day.

Why do you keep editing your posts to say something completely different to your original comment?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

No, I am saying that maybe half a dozen of them are weird for posting the same thing around forty-to-sixty times a day.

Why do you keep editing your posts to say something completely different to your original comment?

Because I start typing as a reaction without thinking thru carefully what I'm going to say. Usually after I've posted and read my comment thru, I can either think of a better comment, or a better way to express my point (or lack of it).

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Bond composer backs craig.


http://www.totalfilm.com/movie_news/david_arnold_backs_new_007


from total film.


David Arnold backs new 007
Bond’s music man “very excited” to be working with Craig
20 Oct 2005 11:13am


After a fairly frosty reception from the tabloid press (with one paper labelling him James Bland), Daniel Craig’s appointment as 007 for James Bond’s 21st outing, Casino Royale, has not been all martinis and smiles. Fighting Craig’s corner, however, is franchise composer David Arnold, who says people need to give the Layer Cake star a chance to prove himself.

“It would be a very foolish person who made any kind of judgement from how he answered tabloid questions at a press conference,” Arnold says. “People should be very excited about what’s going to happen; it’s going to be very different.”

The Luton-born score merchant admits that Craig does face a battle for acceptance, coming into the series as he does on the back of Pierce Brosnan’s most lucrative outing yet as Bond; 2002’s Die Another Day sucked up over $400 million at the box office. Filling Pierce Brosnan’s tux is a daunting challenge for any actor.

“Everyone is bound to be nervous because Pierce Brosnan was so good,” continues Arnold. “You could see James Bond when Pierce was making [US telly series] Remington Steele. You can’t see the James Bond that Daniel is going to be in the stuff he has done before.”

Arnold, who’s been Bond’s music-maker since 1997’s Tomorrow Never Dies, says that, despite Brosnan’s success in the role, a fresh approach to the spy franchise is exactly what is needed. “We went as far we could go with what we did in Die Another Day. This is going to set out a whole new bunch of formulas and values.”

Stay tuned for more Casino Royale updates as we get them…

 

[Everyman]

But you seem to think the only alternative is women who look hot and do the saving.

What we're saying is that you can have a strong female character who doesn't kick ass.

Besides, weak females can be really great characters. ***** Galore was strong, and she was unforgettable, but Domino was very weak, and her struggle to get free from Largo made the romantic subplot of Thunderball relevant, and her character really fascinating. Jinx and Christmas Jones aren't forgettable, but you sure want to forget they ever existed.

 

[Everyman]

You know Ian Fleming complained when Sean Connery was cast as 007? I think that's the mother of all complaints. On one hand, nobody complains about Connery as Bond, he's untouchable cinematic legend. On the other hand, Fleming invented Bond, for goodness' sake.

Imagine Ian Fleming on the internet, visiting messageboards and saying, "I invented Bond & Connery sux," and nobody would believe him.

Fleming changed his mind though. I think he wanted a more well known actor, and didn't consider Sean Connery as a "real" actor.

 

[regwec]

Christmas Jones would have been alright, had Denise Richards not been cast as the nuclear physicist.

 

[Everyman]

Christmas Jones would have been alright, had Denise Richards not been cast as the nuclear physicist.

True... She would have been fine. But she was far from complex, compared to Honeychile Rider or ***** Galore or Domino...

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Besides, weak females can be really great characters. ***** Galore was strong, and she was unforgettable, but Domino was very weak, and her struggle to get free from Largo made the romantic subplot of Thunderball relevant, and her character really fascinating. Jinx and Christmas Jones aren't forgettable, but you sure want to forget they ever existed.

Well, weak males or females can be great characters, but the role of the Bond girl these days has become more of a partner and helper to Bond than just purely a damsel in distress (although any romantic interest inevitably reverts back to this at some point). As such, they can't be weak, but they don't have to be a carbon copy of 007 to be a strong character.

Having said that, the Bond movies are written by men, directed by men and made primarily for a male audience, and an ass-a-whuppin' Halle Berry makes good business sense, I suppose.

 

[Furious Styles]

I know this may seem fanboyish, but I place a huge emphasis on the "gunbarrel" scene.

Somehow, they always seem to shed light on the film. My favourite gunbarrel scene is FYEO, Bill Conti blends a nice mix of bad a$$ guitar with the usual orchestration. It has this real sense of power, kind of like saying after Moonraker, "Bond is BACK!"

I also enjoy Timothy Dalton's gunbarrel scenes. TLD is probably the best "straight" gunbarrel scene. It has a powerful vamp-bridge motif in it that just screams Bond! Michael Kamen's LTK gunbarrel scene is probably the only variation. Some fans hate it, but once again, it sheds light on the film. It's kind of saying, this Bond you have never seen before. It's loud, staggering and yet very powerful.

Anyways, I only say this because a good "gunbarrel" scene will warm our hearts to Craig even sooner. If the gunbarrel scene is good, I will immediately warm up to Craig because in the end I'm a James Bond fan first and the gunbarrel scene defines a James Bond film.

 

[Everyman]

Well, weak males or females can be great characters, but the role of the Bond girl these days has become more of a partner and helper to Bond than just purely a damsel in distress (although any romantic interest inevitably reverts back to this at some point). As such, they can't be weak, but they don't have to be a carbon copy of 007 to be a strong character.

Having said that, the Bond movies are written by men, directed by men and made primarily for a male audience, and an ass-a-whuppin' Halle Berry makes good business sense, I suppose.

I know they became more of a partner, but it reached the absurd with Jinx, who was really a competitor (they even wanted to give the character a franchise of her own at a time). Maybe they could go back to vulnerable women, not weak, but vulnerable.

And I think male audiences didn't like Jinx at all, neither the female for that matter. Male audiences identifie with Bond, they don't want a female Bond, and female audiences don't care for a female Bond: they came to see Bond himself.

 

[JLBats]

I think my perfect Bond movie already came out this year: Batman Begins.

Think about it. Dark. Gritty. But with touches of lightness. Well defined characters. A larger than life, albeit fallible, main character. A guy who hands out gadgets. An interesting villain-hero dynamic. A dense plot... etc.

 

[DACrowe]

Maybe his screentest he shows a charismatic and complex nuance that escapes photographs, but for a man who has shown open apathy for the character and looks so NOT the part it seems grim.

In fact just the fact that it turns out that Brosnan was up for Bond 5 (or 21 but 5 in his case) to close his run and the stupid producers cut him out because he was "too old and want a fresh new young face" for this very uncharming and not so young face is quite discouraging. In fact if it wasn't for the fact that it is being directed by Martin Campbell, the director of the second or third best Bond movie in the series (Goldeneye) and loosley based on one of Ian Fleming's classics and the original Bond novel, Casino Royale, I would be in major fear of this being a complete failure but who knows maybe it will be at least halfway decent still.