Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread - Part 2

[spideyboy_1111]

Ghost Rider and the Fantastic Four are clearly up to bat next...

While i don't "expect" any of the following to happen... I really would not be shocked if the following happens...

-Disney/Marvel flat out buys the rights to the F4 from Fox (or soon goes to court over them)

-If Marvel within the next few years develops a "marvel knights" label for street level more adult themed films, which have their own "avengers" type team-ups

-If Thomas Jane eventually reprises the role of Punisher (especially after his short film)

-If the Marvel Knights label starts out on television

 

[Saitou Hajime]

spideyboy_1111, why should Marvel pay for something they can probably get back for free? Fox has yet to prove they can actually make the F4 reboot a reality, nearly 3 years after they've announced it. I say they just go "screw it, we'll see you in 2 years".

 

[TheVileOne]

We'll see maybe Marvel/Disney wouldn't trust Fox to give them 2 years and wants to buy 'em out.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Yeah, they could still crank out a crappy movie in the next two years and extend the license for who knows how long.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

spideyboy_1111, why should Marvel pay for something they can probably get back for free? Fox has yet to prove they can actually make the F4 reboot a reality, nearly 3 years after they've announced it. I say they just go "screw it, we'll see you in 2 years".

While I agree... I actually wouldn't put it past FOX to actually get the ball rolling on this film now that they just lost DD and Marvel CLEARLY now wants the rights back to at least some of the characters... FOX's next move will probably be to up the stakes and make a F4 movie announcement soon. And my worst fear is that they actually make it to hold on to the rights.. why do i fear it? because when Marvel eventually gets it back.. it's going to be a VERY long time till we see the F4 again... because a 2nd reboot shortly after the first one.. wont happen sadly.

We'll see maybe Marvel/Disney wouldn't trust Fox to give them 2 years and wants to buy 'em out.

That's what i hope.. I see one of two things happening.. Marvel taking them to court (they do have a clause about miss-representation of characters), or them putting up the money to buy them outright.

The Fantastic Four are really integral to the Marvel Universe.. they have so many connections with Namor, Panther, Avengers, Galactus and other cosmic characters, Inhumans, Doom, the list goes on and on... and I think for an ideal Marvel Film universe.. they're easily the most integral property marvel doesn't have.

 

[The Guard]

That sizzle reel was just...clips of old movies and the previous Daredevil franchise, and some generic comic book imagery. Not sure why people got excited about it. FOX was never going to make a DD film set in the 70's.

 

[TX85]

DD is going home eh?,Cool!,DD in MCU Phase II or III!?

 

[The Ironstar]

I think MCU just out foxed FOX by "wanting" to after The Big G & SS,they made FOX waste more time on getting DD started. Now it seems they are getting into the same situation again w/this director on the FF movie. If what the earlier poster posted is correct on the production timeline.

 

[The /]

I may be in the minority on this, but I'd rather see a Daredevil film or series that is separate from the current Marvel Cinematic Universe. I guess I just don't see much of a reason to incorporate him into what Marvel is currently doing with The Avengers. What would Daredevil really add other than a quick cameo or mention? I think I would be more excited to see a Daredevil series realized, perhaps as part of this "Marvel Knights" brand that some have suggested in this thread, than see him getting involved with all of the other heroes.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I agree that Daredevil shouldn't be involved in the MCU and I hope Marvel realizes that not all their heroes needs to be heavily involved in the huge MCU picture.

 

[TheVileOne]

The / I mean . . . why not?

Daredevil has been a part of the Marvel pantheon since the 1960's. In the 1970's, Daredevil was even offered a spot in the Avengers which he turned down, but his girlfriend at the time, Black Widow accepted it. Recently he's since joined the Avengers.

I know people have an attachment to the Miller stories of Daredevil but that's only one part of Daredevil's history. He's had history where he's interacted with all parts of the Marvel universe. The really dark, grim and gritty, noir style of Daredevil didn't really come full swing until the 1980's and then was adopted more permanently when the series restarted with volume 2 and Guardian Devil.

I agree that Daredevil shouldn't be involved in the MCU and I hope Marvel realizes that not all their heroes needs to be heavily involved in the huge MCU picture.

Why shouldn't he be involved in it though?

 

[TX85]

DD doesn't have to show up in Avengers 2,I just want him in the same universe and at least get referenced in Avengers 2!!

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I may be in the minority on this, but I'd rather see a Daredevil film or series that is separate from the current Marvel Cinematic Universe. I guess I just don't see much of a reason to incorporate him into what Marvel is currently doing with The Avengers. What would Daredevil really add other than a quick cameo or mention? I think I would be more excited to see a Daredevil series realized, perhaps as part of this "Marvel Knights" brand that some have suggested in this thread, than see him getting involved with all of the other heroes.

The idea to seperate the properties again in a Marvel Knights and a MCU section now that they finally are under the same roof again is amazing nonsense. Daredevil as a character worked for many decades as part of the bigger universe. Just because he is street level and no Avenger does not mean there is need to exclude him from the MCU. It's called U for a reason. Tge Daredevil movie could introduce the street level aspect, Heroes outside of NYC if they choose to set it in San Francisco (which was the best DD era anyeay)...

 

[Captain Marvel]

Eh, I'd rather he not be in the Avengers. Just because he is in the comics that doesn't mean it's a good idea (Particularly since these days everybody seems to be an Avenger). Daredevil's much better off remaining a street-level hero. It's not as if there's a shortage of characters who could be added to the Avengers roster, nevermind characters who make much more sense and deserve a chance to be on the Avengers on film, like Ant-Man, Wasp, Ms. Marvel, Black Panther, Vision, etc.

 

[TheVileOne]

Even Captain America showed up in Born Again.

 

[Binker]

There are some Marvel comics, that work better for me, without the need to have them associated with the rest of the Marvel Universe: Spider-Man is one, X-Men is really another, Punisher, and Daredevil.

BTW, did anyone see the sizzle reel this director posted? I really hope that just because Marvel owns Daredevil again, doesn't mean this guy's take won't be the film at all. He had a nice take that I would've liked to see. Anyone else?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

He doesnt need to be part of he avengers... But i would like him to be in the same universe

 

[Matt Mortem]

****ing ecstatic over this Daredevil news. I loves me some DD!!!!

 

[Nelson/Murdock]

Same universe, yes. Daredevil as an Avenger, no thank you!

 

[SKSpawn]

I'm glad Fox is losing the rights to DareDevil, everything they touch seems to eventually turn poisonous and, while I don't view DareDevil as hot a commodity as, say, X-Men could be in Marvel Studios' hands, there are some interesting avenues for potential for the film.

I'd rather not see DareDevil interact with the Avengers much, and definately would rather he didn't join the team, but having DareDevil occupy the same world could be brilliant and allow for him to at least cameo in other Marvel Studios movies. if Marvel Studios develop a Moon Knight and, if they have the rights (I forget), another Punisher movie, they could bring DareDevil, Moon Knight, and the Punisher together for Marvel Knights and have a nice little sub-set of grittier, less morally-inclined heroes to develop alongside The Avengers movies.

 

[Silvermoth]

This is indeed a fasinating development. I never thought I would see ANY of the rights from other studios revert to Marvel.

Now that they've got in, I hope they make it into a television show. It could be the new Buffy in that it was dodgy and camp at the movies but when it was put on telly it became a classic.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

Seriously DD makes so much sense as a tv show. Have ABC studios produce it unless marvel studios has a separate tv studio.

It doesn't even have to be on ABC. HBO, SHOWTIME and AMC are out since I think that only allow their shows but I'm sure they can figure something out.

Make it like law and order except the order part is the law part dressing like the devil.

13 episode seasons. Have things go from good(DD is kicking ass and taking names) to bad(kingpin figures out DD secret identity and sets out to kill his loved ones) to scary dark(DD goes off the deep end and almost starts killing)

Edit:I see that Disney owns half of A&E. Perhaps that could be good for DD.

 

[Project862006]

wow this just makes me depressed that pitch was amazing but 2 months was not enough time to produce a period piece super hero film

this take seemed very risky and ambitious ah well

 

[marcvader]

Project, are your favorite words risky and ambitious?

 

[Project862006]

just call it like i see it

anyways i understand why FOX prefer F4 over DD

F4 is more cinematic and huge on super heroics and would be a summer blockbuster while DD would'nt

F4 made more money than DD did by a large margin first go around as well and F4 has more wide range appeal to general audiences than DD