Daredevil = Underrated

[kirbyfan]

The DC cut of Daredevil is one of the best superhero movies ever made!

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Ben Affleck in the lead role. Some people just love to jump on the bandwagon and follow the herd!

I also think the second FF is very good as well!

What wasn't very good is Iron Man 2, should of been so much better!

 

[SPIDERFIST]

I wholeheartedly agree that the DC of DD is the best. He definitely deserves another live-action film. But personally I think he needs an animated feature. That would give him the truly proper showcase and he has some sweet villains/story lines to choose from.

 

[E-Man]

An animated feature would be a great way to get Daredevil back on the scene. Born Again would be the easy story choice.

 

[flash13]

An animated feature would be a great way to get Daredevil back on the scene. Born Again would be the easy story choice.

Yes! That would be

 

[Daredevil]

Watched it again and I have to give my one complaint:

Sometimes the jumping scenes were a bit lame and extremely fake looking. Still, great great movie. Thats probably my only complaint.

 

[BigSams50]

The CGI did leave much to be desired

 

[Karelia]

Yeah, when I first watched it I thought the CGI wasn't that great.

Has Fox said anything else about the Daredevil film? I heard they were planning on making a new one, but that's all I've heard.

 

[Spidey220987]

Easily one of the most under-rated comic book films I've ever seen, I liked it, I gave it an 8/10.BUT the theatrical cut has NOTHING on the Director's Cut, my favourite Director's Cut of all time (so far), integrating the subplot was awesome.The Director's cut gets a 10/10 from me. Obviously it's not perfect, but I'm not gonna say 9.5, round it up to 10 lol

 

[Spidey220987]

In regards to Ben Affleck as Matt Murdock, I thought that was good casting.He looked the part, has the physical build of the character, and he acted like comic book Daredevil, not to mention that he is a fan of the character.On a side note, Daredevil is my 2nd favourite comic character after Spidey, which is also why this film gets my appreciation lol. I agree with the comments that say if the DC had been the theatrical release, a sequel would have been greenlit, without a doubt.

 

[Hmarrs]

I may be one of the few that actually liked Daredevil.

So I was wondering why so many people had a problem with it?

I thought the source material was very close to the comic book.
The Daredevil outfit(Costume)was very close I actually like how inovative they were
with the outfit while still retaining the look.

The action scenes were good.
The look was was good the feal was good.

So anyone.......??????

 

[david icke]

Yeah, I was actually quite blown away by how much I enjoyed it, I was not expecting much from it at all, and basically got a pretty decent Frank Miller era adaptation.
It's not perfect, but so much of it works that I can imagine I am watching the flesh and blood DD of those books.
btw, this might get closed, as someone recently started a 'Daredevil:Under-rated?' thread.

 

[Hmarrs]

Yeah, I was actually quite blown away by how much I enjoyed it, I was not expecting much from it at all, and basically got a pretty decent Frank Miller era adaptation.
It's not perfect, but so much of it works that I can imagine I am watching the flesh and blood DD of those books.
btw, this might get closed, as someone recently started a 'Daredevil:Under-rated?' thread.

Were here we have been moved.Dave good to see you.
I always thought of the King In as being this guy Butterbean.

On top of that I think it would have more believeable since this guy can fight.

 

[E-Man]

I don't think Butterbean can act though. If he can it might make sense to cast him in a reboot.

 

[XBRoughneck]

The DC cut of Daredevil is one of the best superhero movies ever made!

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Ben Affleck in the lead role. Some people just love to jump on the bandwagon and follow the herd!

I also think the second FF is very good as well!

What wasn't very good is Iron Man 2, should of been so much better!

Disagree. I felt he wasn't nearly athletic enough to pull off the role of one of Marvels most agile heroes. Ben just seems too stiff. My opinion on that has nothing to do with me following "the herd".

I also felt that Elektra shouldn't have been included in first DAREDEVIL movie. It made the film a superhero combo movie instead of a one dedicated to my favorite hero. Sure, Elektra is an important part of DDs overall tale. She's not so important that she needed to be his love interest in the first film. IMHO she stole a lot of show.

Hiring Ben Affleck as the lead probably wasn't a good move, with the actor cementing his reputation as a lightweight thesp with this charisma-free performance as Matt Murdock. However, he wasn't the only guilty party here; helmer Mark Steven Johnson didn't help matters with some slipshod direction of the fight sequences, whilst Colin Farrell's turn as the villainous assassin Bullseye was one of the worst of his career.

Those are the two things that bugged me the most.

1) While I think it would be difficult to pull off a charismatic blind man, I just think Affleck came up more drole in the role that I think the character deserved.

2) If you combine a world class gymnist with a world class martial arts expert you do not get the fight scenes we saw. Very boring combat IMHO.

 

[david icke]

I think you are being too hard on the fight scenes, the sequence when he clears out Josie's bar is a blast, and what's good about it is that he is not just some martial artist/gymnast, he uses his billy-club and super-senses very effectiovely in the scene. The fights feel brutal and hard hitting, just like a bar-fight should, you can't have them as fluid as the ones in the comic books unless you want him CGI'd, or employ someone of a Bruce Lee level of expertise, and have them wearing spandex.
They were actually better than a lot of cb fight scenes, it's not supposed to be like some martial arts movie scene anyway, as i said, it's a combo of martial arts, his super-senses and billy club, and just ploughing through guys by any means necessary.
That was actually more realistic than doing it like some Bruce Lee movie, who has got time to dance around like that, taking on one guy at the time, when there are four guys coming at you with broken bottles, what you do is just punch them in the frickin' face as fast as possible, smash the bottle out of their hands and smack them around with the big stick in your hand.
I am trying to imagine the Josie's bar scene as done martial arts movie style, and it would just be too dainty....... hard, fast, brutal fighting, bar-brawl style, that's the way it would be in real life, and that's what we got in the movie. Otherwise you're talking cartoons.

Hmarrs: Butterbean! I forgot that guy existed, i was never a big wrestling fan , but my friend was and he tuned me into a couple of his fights, but i thought MCD was fine in the role, and believable in the fight scene.

 

[Hmarrs]

I don't think Butterbean can act though. If he can it might make sense to cast him in a reboot.

He doesn't really even have to act just be himself mean.

I think you are being too hard on the fight scenes, the sequence when he clears out Josie's bar is a blast, and what's good about it is that he is not just some martial artist/gymnast, he uses his billy-club and super-senses very effectiovely in the scene. The fights feel brutal and hard hitting, just like a bar-fight should, you can't have them as fluid as the ones in the comic books unless you want him CGI'd, or employ someone of a Bruce Lee level of expertise, and have them wearing spandex.
They were actually better than a lot of cb fight scenes, it's not supposed to be like some martial arts movie scene anyway, as i said, it's a combo of martial arts, his super-senses and billy club, and just ploughing through guys by any means necessary.
That was actually more realistic than doing it like some Bruce Lee movie, who has got time to dance around like that, taking on one guy at the time, when there are four guys coming at you with broken bottles, what you do is just punch them in the frickin' face as fast as possible, smash the bottle out of their hands and smack them around with the big stick in your hand.
I am trying to imagine the Josie's bar scene as done martial arts movie style, and it would just be too dainty....... hard, fast, brutal fighting, bar-brawl style, that's the way it would be in real life, and that's what we got in the movie. Otherwise you're talking cartoons.

Hmarrs: Butterbean! I forgot that guy existed, i was never a big wrestling fan , but my friend was and he tuned me into a couple of his fights, but i thought MCD was fine in the role, and believable in the fight scene.

 

[marcvader]

I liked the DD DC and own it but it really was Daredevil Lite to me.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I may be one of the few that actually liked Daredevil.

So I was wondering why so many people had a problem with it?


So anyone.......??????

1. Playground Fight - Corny
2. Evanescence music - Corny
3. Affleck in costume was not that impressive, when he talked with the costume on, it just...didn't look right. Not sure how to explain it.
4. Garner as Elektra is just bad casting. She's not a good actress and she didn't even remotely look Greek.

 

[Visceral]

Daredevil is the most watchable and likeable bad movie of all time, most miy friends agree.

 

[XBRoughneck]

I think you are being too hard on the fight scenes, the sequence when he clears out Josie's bar is a blast, and what's good about it is that he is not just some martial artist/gymnast, he uses his billy-club and super-senses very effectiovely in the scene. The fights feel brutal and hard hitting, just like a bar-fight should, you can't have them as fluid as the ones in the comic books unless you want him CGI'd, or employ someone of a Bruce Lee level of expertise, and have them wearing spandex.
They were actually better than a lot of cb fight scenes, it's not supposed to be like some martial arts movie scene anyway, as i said, it's a combo of martial arts, his super-senses and billy club, and just ploughing through guys by any means necessary.
That was actually more realistic than doing it like some Bruce Lee movie, who has got time to dance around like that, taking on one guy at the time, when there are four guys coming at you with broken bottles, what you do is just punch them in the frickin' face as fast as possible, smash the bottle out of their hands and smack them around with the big stick in your hand.
I am trying to imagine the Josie's bar scene as done martial arts movie style, and it would just be too dainty....... hard, fast, brutal fighting, bar-brawl style, that's the way it would be in real life, and that's what we got in the movie. Otherwise you're talking cartoons.

Hmarrs: Butterbean! I forgot that guy existed, i was never a big wrestling fan , but my friend was and he tuned me into a couple of his fights, but i thought MCD was fine in the role, and believable in the fight scene.

Uhm, Daredevil is a comic book character. While the people Daredevil is fighting could be moving in a hard, fast bar-brawl style, I don't envision that being the fighting style that a trainee of STICK would have used.

Have you seen Ninja Assassin? The combat in that movie is hard and brutal, yet doesn't appear dainty. (the scene where Rain has to kill the fat guy in the bathroom comes to mind) It appears that the director knew what he was doing filming fight scenes.

Daredevil's fight scenes seemed like an evolution of the stuff I saw in those old Spiderman live action movies from the late 70s.

It didn't help that Affleck is just not an athletic actor. Fit? Ok. But not athletic enough to pull of the fight scenes to my liking.

We'll agree to disagree.

As far as non-super powered superhero movies go, Daredevil rates below both Batman flicks, and I feel that is unfortunate. While I feel Batman has the more colorful list of antagonist (Joker, Riddler, Catwoman, Crock), Matt Murdock is a more appealing, much deeper hero than Bruce Wayne.

The Daredevil movie didn't bring out his depth enough, nor did it display his skills as a fighter in a way that would imply he is a living weapon himself.

It was an ok movie when I saw it years ago. Now that several movies have come out that are better than it, I'm left even more wanting.

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO glad that a reboot is likely in it's future.

The Affleck movie can fade away from people's memory.

 

[david icke]

Yeah, of course DD ranks below the Nolan Batman films, but i think it works better as a dark superhero/vigilante movie than any of the 89-97 Batman movies.

It could be a lot better, but they could have also done a lot worse, I would not have minded seeing a sequel at the time, but would also equally be interested in a reboot.
But, we will see what happens, as with the spider-man reboot, there is a lot of assuming that it will be an improvement, where in actual fact there could be just more room for failure. Where the original got some things spot on, they will change that process just to be different from the previous, and not be as effective.

edit: and with DD i am thinking on the realisation of the radar sense onscreen, it was very effectively done there, and was even copied to a lesser effect in the Dark Knight, so i wonder how they will improve on that, because they will undoubtabley go for a different effect just to be different.

 

[Brother Jack]

I've never seen the Director's Cut, but I'd imagine it doesn't make the movie a whole lot better because it's already pretty bad. I don't get the love some people have for it.

 

[C. Lee]

I've never seen the Director's Cut, but I'd imagine it doesn't make the movie a whole lot better because it's already pretty bad. I don't get the love some people have for it.

Well, be sure to not watch it then...that way you can continue to live with preconcieved ideas instead of finding out for yourself if it's true or not.

 

[Hmarrs]

Yeah, of course DD ranks below the Nolan Batman films, but i think it works better as a dark superhero/vigilante movie than any of the 89-97 Batman movies.

It could be a lot better, but they could have also done a lot worse, I would not have minded seeing a sequel at the time, but would also equally be interested in a reboot.
But, we will see what happens, as with the spider-man reboot, there is a lot of assuming that it will be an improvement, where in actual fact there could be just more room for failure. Where the original got some things spot on, they will change that process just to be different from the previous, and not be as effective.

edit: and with DD i am thinking on the realisation of the radar sense onscreen, it was very effectively done there, and was even copied to a lesser effect in the Dark Knight, so i wonder how they will improve on that, because they will undoubtabley go for a different effect just to be different.

My Question is why is the answer to everything "A REBOOT".
I think the movies should go on and learn as they go along .Not all comics were good when they came out they just kept tweaking as they went along.Ben Afleck is a good enough actor to find that depth as Matt Murdock.
And as for the fight scenes they need to get an Athletic Martial Artist.
After all he is wearinf a Mask anyway.All the more reason to bring in a double.Why should it be him(Afleck doing the fighting scenes)?
It's better then getting an action star for the role who can do the action but who won't be able to do the drama.


P.S. Dave:Butterbean was a Boxer not a Wrestler

 

[david icke]

My Question is why is the answer to everything "A REBOOT".
I think the movies should go on and learn as they go along .Not all comics were good when they came out they just kept tweaking as they went along.Ben Afleck is a good enough actor to find that depth as Matt Murdock.
And as for the fight scenes they need to get an Athletic Martial Artist.
After all he is wearinf a Mask anyway.All the more reason to bring in a double.Why should it be him(Afleck doing the fighting scenes)?
It's better then getting an action star for the role who can do the action but who won't be able to do the drama.


P.S. Dave:Butterbean was a Boxer not a Wrestler

lol, yeah, i think i have taken a few too many punches to the head myself, my friend was far more of a boxing fan than wrestling(although he liked that too), so i saw many boxing matches round his house, and Butterbean was featured in a couple i saw, not many though.

and on Affleck...he didn't want to do another DD movie, he was only really interested he siad if Kevin smith wanted to do one with him based on 'Born again'.
Maybe there were stunt doubles in the fight scenes, I imagine there were for certain things. I thought the fight scenes were pretty good.