David Goyer hired to write Man of Steel

[ultimatefan]

IGN has already said that Jonah Nolan is co-writing it with Goyer.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/107/1071879p1.html

EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: IGN has heard from reliable sources that Tull is downplaying this report. Goyer is in fact on the project, but not only that -- his The Dark Knight co-writer Jonah Nolan will also be scripting Superman: The Man of Steel along with him. Nolan's brother Christopher is expected to only executive-produce, and not direct, the film. That said, he will be "hands-on" as a producer. Since the Superman film is under the gun because of the ongoing legal entanglements involving the property, Warner Bros. wants the pair to get started on their script on the double.

Our sources add that Warners is confident in the early work that Goyer and Jonah Nolan have done so far on Batman 3, and that as a result Superman has now taken on a higher priority status at the studio than it had since Superman Returns was released.

That´s good to hear.

The best possible news for this project is not being an origin story, I had fears that WB would succumb to this obsession that has really nothing to it but fanboy gush, but cooler heads prevail and they realize, like any reasonable, non-hardcore post-crisis fanboy in the world do, that if there´s a character in all of pop culture who doesn´t need to go all the way back to reintroducing his fairly simple origins again for the umpteenth time, it´s Superman. Like I said before, not that his past and early days can never be mentioned again and be part of the story, but go back to "Krypton is about to explode, Jor-El and Lara pur Kal-El in a rocket, planet blows up, he travels to Earth...", for the love of Jesus, no.

 

[Crook]

Even if they don't do the whole origin and show Jor-El, Lara, Krypton exploding, Kal-El being sent to Earth etc, it would be cool if it started with Clark arriving at Metropolis for the first time. Seeing his first public rescue as Superman would be cool.

I think it'd be really unique to open the movie on Metropolis and it's supporting characters, without Clark. And our first sight of him in the movie, is his first appearance as Supes.

It'd be great for us to view him in the same fashion as the characters of the movie. Something alien, awe-inspiring, and life-changing. Could turn out very majestic.

 

[GL's Light]

Even if they don't do the whole origin and show Jor-El, Lara, Krypton exploding, Kal-El being sent to Earth etc, it would be cool if it started with Clark arriving at Metropolis for the first time. Seeing his first public rescue as Superman would be cool.

Nah, Superman as a well-established and beloved superhero is the approach I hope they take.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

... it would be cool if it started with Clark arriving at Metropolis for the first time. Seeing his first public rescue as Superman would be cool.

That would be cool, but surely we can have some flashbacks to Krypton right?

If it started with him beginning at the DP, and they tell back-stories through some flashbacks I would be equally happy with that. Seeing a younger Jor-el distanced from the Brando version has been a dream of many fans btw.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I think it'd be really unique to open the movie on Metropolis and it's supporting characters, without Clark. And our first sight of him in the movie, is his first appearance as Supes.

It'd be great for us to view him in the same fashion as the characters of the movie. Something alien, awe-inspiring, and life-changing. Could turn out very majestic.

Interesting

 

[Prison Mike]

I would be absolutely fine if the movie started right in the middle of an already established relationship between the main characters. I don't think the general audience needs another rehash of the origin either. We just need more action!

 

[Van Petrol]

So did that extra bit of comic book news from Elmayimbe(sp) come to pass yesterday?

 

[Lighthouse]

So did that extra bit of comic book news from Elmayimbe(sp) come to pass yesterday?

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[GL's Light]

That was a reference to some news IESB is going to break, and, no, they haven't posted it yet.

 

[BH/HHH]

That was a reference to some news IESB is going to break, and, no, they haven't posted it yet.

I hope we hear it soon

 

[Figs]

Great to Jonathan Nolan is on board to help write it. Just Goyer alone wouldn't be a good thing when it comes to dialogue.

Personally, I got a bit excited hearing this news being a casual Superman fan but then my interest dropped bigtime when I heard they aren't using Darkseid and that ****ing Luthor is going to be in it. Absolutely moronic.

 

[Octoberist]

it's iesb that has the scoop but they're tieing up loose ends. but it'll be up soon enough.

I think it's either:

Marvel's Runaways or one of DC's smaller heroes like Lobo. but I hope it Flash related.

 

[Octoberist]

Great to Jonathan Nolan is on board to help write it. Just Goyer alone wouldn't be a good thing when it comes to dialogue.

Personally, I got a bit excited hearing this news being a casual Superman fan but then my interest dropped bigtime when I heard they aren't using Darkseid and that ****ing Luthor is going to be in it. Absolutely moronic.

YOu know what? as much as I sick of Luthor, I still want him in as a side character AND as the Lexcorp Lex. I don't know how moronic is it, but it's not.

Brainiac is a freaking villain that we're getting who's not Lex, so why complain?

 

[Daybreak_st]

lol, we posted the exact same thing about the fear comments. Some lines I was okay with, like the "I gotta get me one of those" because the movie would be too serious or else. In the end I thought it was a great film that had its flaws, but I don't think goyer deserves half the crap he gets from some people on these boards who don't even know how to string together a sentence.

I can see what a you guys are saying to a degree, but what superhero movie doesn't have some cheesy one-liners. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it falls flat, but in most cases it is an attempt at humor, we may just not "get the joke" so to speak. In S:TM "something wrong with the elevator?" to the cat-burglar. After a guy hits supes with crowbar supes looks at him and says "bad vibrations?". It's all pretty cheesy, but they at least don’t' take themselves too seriously and allow for a little humor in an otherwise serious film (not talking about supes but batman).

I for one loved BB as it still retained the sense of optimism and hope that i like my heroes to carry. Like you said it really focused on bruce wayne and was a great character analysis. I'm hoping for something similar in Man of Steel. TDK was a great film, with a better plot, but it felt more like an ensemble cast in a crime drama that just happened to have batman as the protagonist and joker as the antagonist. It was good, but i was left pretty empty by the end. Maybe that was the whole idea with how it ended, i just prefer my superhero based films to leave me feeling more excited. Also for me it affects re-watch value, I’ve seen BB many times while I’ve only seen TDK twice, i know everyone's different but that's just me.

I'm really excited about Goyer since he's a huge comic buff. That alone tells me we'll finally get a more faithful comic adaptations. I also highly doubt they'll take everything from Bryne. It will be more like the batman films and use a variety of influences, but more so set in the byrne era - parents alive, fleshed out clark not a nerdy cliché, etc.

 

[GL's Light]

I think it's either:

Marvel's Runaways or one of DC's smaller heroes like Lobo. but I hope it Flash related.

Showtime said it's DC news.

 

[Octoberist]

sweet.

alright it'll be either Lobo (maybe Deadman) or Flash/Wonder Woman.

 

[Figs]

YOu know what? as much as I sick of Luthor, I still want him in as a side character AND as the Lexcorp Lex. I don't know how moronic is it, but it's not.

Brainiac is a freaking villain that we're getting who's not Lex, so why complain?

Yes it is a bit moronic for them to use him again for the 5th time. Maybe not entirely moronic but truly unoriginal.

I don't care that Brainiac is in this, while that's pretty cool I still think they have done Luthor to death in these films. He may be to Superman what Joker is to Batman but he doesn't seem to have nearly as much depth or an interesting factor to him. (Waits for bigtime Superman fans to jump on that last line )

 

[GL's Light]

As I said earlier, my guess is it's Lobo news.

 

[Octoberist]

Yes it is a bit moronic for them to use him again for the 5th time. Maybe not entirely moronic but truly unoriginal.

I don't care that Brainiac is in this, while that's pretty cool I still think they have done Luthor to death in these films. He may be to Superman what Joker is to Batman but he doesn't seem to have nearly as much depth or an interesting factor to him. (Waits for bigtime Superman fans to jump on that last line )

Here's the thing: again, I'm sick of Luthor but then again, they used the 'stupid real estate Lex' in the movies, while the better tycoon Lex was never used.

It makes sense if he's in the movie if he's the most power person in the city. I'm sure he'll be the first one to greet Brainiac. And yes, he does have depth..well in the comics and the animated series. No matter how much power he has in Metropolis, Superman will always shadow him. so he has a god complex and Superman is stealing his spotlight.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yes it is a bit moronic for them to use him again for the 5th time. Maybe not entirely moronic but truly unoriginal.

I don't care that Brainiac is in this, while that's pretty cool I still think they have done Luthor to death in these films. He may be to Superman what Joker is to Batman but he doesn't seem to have nearly as much depth or an interesting factor to him. (Waits for bigtime Superman fans to jump on that last line )

Only one incarnation of Luthor has been used. People gripe about him, but we haven't really seen the ruthless character that he should be. It would be nice to see him portrayed as the threat he really is.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Here's the thing: again, I'm sick of Luthor but then again, they used the 'stupid real estate Lex' in the movies, while the better tycoon Lex was never used.

It makes sense if he's in the movie if he's the most power person in the city. I'm sure he'll be the first one to greet Brainiac. And yes, he does have depth..well in the comics and the animated series. No matter how much power he has in Metropolis, Superman will always shadow him. so he has a god complex and Superman is stealing his spotlight.

Afraid I have to agree with Figs. While there are definitely better versions of Luthor outside of WB's movies, the character still isn't as interesting as the Joker. To be fair, though, the Joker is probably the most fascinating superhero villain so it's not like Luthor is the only villain that doesn't hold up very well in comparison.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Luthor would also be served well if he was in the shadows. The man manipulating the situation rather than the stereotypical villain monologuing his plans. They've had Superman consistently foiling his plans and then having him thrown in jail. Luthor should be untouchable in some sense. That's part of what has always made him an appealing villain to me. He forces Superman to think outside the box. That being said, that's also why we need a proper physical threat for Superman as well.

 

[Daybreak_st]

Yes it is a bit moronic for them to use him again for the 5th time. Maybe not entirely moronic but truly unoriginal.

I don't care that Brainiac is in this, while that's pretty cool I still think they have done Luthor to death in these films. He may be to Superman what Joker is to Batman but he doesn't seem to have nearly as much depth or an interesting factor to him. (Waits for bigtime Superman fans to jump on that last line )

Cue big time superman fan jumping on that last statement

Luthor is more of a supporting character than the other villains are, at least in the corporate version. Just look at the animated series or lois and clark to see how he can be integrated without being the primary threat. i hate the movie luthor up to this point, thought Kevin spacey (great actor) was awful as luthor in SR. His silly schemes have made him come across as a b-list villain rather an a-lister, who's one of the greatest of the DC universe. When well written he can also have plenty of depth, look at lionel luthor from smallville. He's pretty much how you can portray a corporate luthor in a film, also on lex from smallville.

The comic Lex Luthor: Man of Steel shows everything from his perspective and is an interesting read as it analyzes his complex motivations.

Also lex can be portrayed as a Tony Stark type character (my preference) someone who became rich off of his brilliance, and still invents things himself.

There's a ton of ways to portray luthor on screen and make him a very interesting character. The audience hasn't had the chance to get to know the real lex luthor yet. I'm interested in seeing what they have in store. But rest assured I’m sure it won't be the real estate guru we've seen from previous films.

 

[Octoberist]

Afraid I have to agree with Figs. While there are definitely better versions of Luthor outside of WB's movies, the character still isn't as interesting as the Joker. To be fair, though, the Joker is probably the most fascinating superhero villain so it's not like Luthor is the only villain that doesn't hold up very well in comparison.

I agree Joker is better than Luthor.

but

His point is that Luthor is in the movie and he prefers not to have Luthor in at all, even as a side villain.

My argument is that I want Luthor in as long as he's not the main villain. Also, I wanted the 'real' version of Lex.

The Joker has been and always been a tour de force, but he was also the main villain in both Burton's Batman and Dark Knight. it's a little different because Luthor won't steal the spotlight from Brainiac from the public's eye instead will stand tall as is a supporting character. and that's fine in my book. the book of Octoberist.

 

[Octoberist]

isn't it kinda funny how the Superman story totally outshadowed the Captain America casting news? or maybe it's just me..