The Dark Knight David Julyan should totally do the music.

[Keyser Sushi]

I was told it was the one at the 7-minute mark.

 

[strider]

Just checked. You mean 7 minutes...or 8? Cause both have a "theme". If someone can give the exact timetrack on the DVD that'd be great.

^ Its kind of his theme but the score was geared more towards the emotions of fear, revenge and sadness of Bruce/Batman. Ra's, Falcone & Scarecrow had there little moments. The huge crescendo and decrescendo theme that you all hear alot is to mimic the flapping wings of a giant bat...the giant bat being the Batman.

The BB score is intended to be a mature peice of work.

 

[Rockbottom]

The theme exists, genius.

Get out your Batman Begins DVD (assuming you have one and are not merely trolling here), go to the endcredits, and approximately 7 minutes into the credit track, you will hear the Batman theme.

Well if there is a theme then whats all that crap about Batman not having yet earned one? And dont talk to me like your better than me, moron.

 

[drunkhomer]

i loved the BB score, and i thought it should have been nominated for best score

and no disrespect to david julyan but i think hans zimmer has a better resume Gladiator, Blackhawkdown, Last Samurai, Thin Red Line, Blackdraft, Lion King, The Peacemaker, The Rock.....list jsut continues for me

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Well if there is a theme then whats all that crap about Batman not having yet earned one? And dont talk to me like your better than me, moron.

It was in the same interview, Horatio.

They said that they had WRITTEN the theme, but decided not to feature it in the movie because he hadn't yet earned it. However the theme does appear briefly during the endcredits, as almost a teaser of what is to come.

And I am better than you until you prove otherwise. That's my worldview. Or, as Dennis Miller once said, "I'm a pragmatist, which means I think everyone is an ******* except me."

 

[Crooklyn]

They said that they had WRITTEN the theme, but decided not to feature it in the movie because he hadn't yet earned it. However the theme does appear briefly during the endcredits, as almost a teaser of what is to come.

Did they actually say the theme was in the end credits as opposed to the film? Because the only thing I remember hearing is that they intentionally did not have a Batman theme in the movie.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Did they actually say the theme was in the end credits as opposed to the film? Because the only thing I remember hearing is that they intentionally did not have a Batman theme in the movie.

Aw, hell, I wish I had the link to the thing I read. It's the only way I even knew about the theme in the credits - same interview. It was Zimmer or JNH, I don't remember which. Dammit. I don't know how to find stuff.

Where's Miranda when I need her? She could probably find it with her keyboard tied behind her back.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Got it!

It was an interview with James Newton Howard at soundtrack.net

In the score to the first film, the main "Batman" theme only shows up towards the end, kind of like a springboard for the second film...

Absolutely, that's the whole idea. It's Batman Begins! There's a whole theme that's written and on purpose not in the movie. We were basically betting that this movie might work out alright and there would be another one, so we wanted the character to develop. He hasn't earned that theme yet! [Play "Batman Begins: Molossus"]

There it is.

 

[Crooklyn]

...oh.

 

[Seen]

There WAS a theme in BATMAN BEGINS, but it wasn't privalent because Zimmer and Newton Howard obviously and naturally want to build on it, letting it mature and grow just as Batman does in the movie. I'm sure this momentum will only continue in THE DARK KNIGHT.

 

[TheBat812]

I think the theme is in Molossus 12 seconds in, and was in one of the trailers or TV spots. It's a good theme, but it's really just a taste of what's to come. They're saving the complete theme for when Batman is ready for it.

 

[matrix_ghost]

I do love the Batman BEgins score , i'd love to see what Julyan can do with a Batman movie.
I just listened to the score of The PRestige and it's mesmerising.
Beautiful score , particularly the songs "COlorado Springs" and "Are You Watching ".

Those two songs just fit batman perfectly.

"Are You Watching "just seems to me like aperfect way of opening TDK. Whereas BB score was full of raw anger , the songs of Prestige seem like someone who has mastered his art.

 

[Rockbottom]

Can anyone link me to a youtube video or something featuring a good theme written by Himmer or JNH please?

 

[Catman]

Got it!

It was an interview with James Newton Howard at soundtrack.net



There it is.

I say, "so what?" I think people sometimes focus too much on the main title theme. The average movies has about 60-minutes worth of music yet people only focus on three of those minutes. The music in BB was good but nothing special. Go and get Danny Elfman's CD for Batman. There's brilliant tracks like:

First Confrontation
Flowers
Batman to the Rescue
Descent Into Mystery (its better than the main title theme)
Childhood Remembered
Charge of the Batmobile
Attack of the Batwing (also better than the main title theme)
Up the Cathedral
Waltz to the Death (PERFECT Joker music)
Finale (better than the main title theme as well)

 

[Seen]

Brilliant tracks for the BATMAN BEGINS CD:

Molossus
Myotis
Tadarida
Lasiurus
Corynorhinus
Vespertilio

And so forth and so forth.

 

[Catman]

Brilliant tracks for the BATMAN BEGINS CD:

Molossus
Myotis
Tadarida
Lasiurus
Corynorhinus
Vespertilio

And so forth and so forth.

They were good but nothing special. Danny Elfman and Shirley Walker were 100x better.

A little sample of Walker:
http://walker.filmmusic.com/audio.html

 

[Seen]

Taste is subjective.

 

[Catman]

Taste is subjective.

And, my taste is this:
http://elfman.filmmusic.com/media.html

 

[Seen]

And, my taste is this:
http://elfman.filmmusic.com/media.html

I can see -- hear -- that.

Don't get me wrong. I love me some Danny Elfman. His work is always fantastic and his contributions to the movie score spectrum of things is innvalulable.

However that still doesn't mean that I can't fully enjoy the works of other composers who have/will work on Batman. Hans Zimmer, in particular, who I adore.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

unfortunatly, elfmans music imo wouldn't fit in this new take on Batman.

 

[Seen]

unfortunatly, elfmans music imo wouldn't fit in this new take on Batman.

Yup. Elfman was sort of perfect for Burton's vision and his specific take on Batman, and Zimmer/Newton Howard is perfect for Nolan's vision and his specific take on Batman. Doesn't make either take invalid, just ... a different yet equally valid take on the same character.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

damn straight.

 

[Rockbottom]

Yup. Elfman was sort of perfect for Burton's vision and his specific take on Batman, and Zimmer/Newton Howard is perfect for Nolan's vision and his specific take on Batman. Doesn't make either take invalid, just ... a different yet equally valid take on the same character.

Im going to disagree with you here, I dont think Zimmer's take is perfect for Begins because to be honest, I could see it with other scores and not think much of it, but Elfman + Burton was perfect, i could imagine anyone else doing the score for the first 2 Batman films.

 

[Catman]

unfortunatly, elfmans music imo wouldn't fit in this new take on Batman.

Yup. Elfman was sort of perfect for Burton's vision and his specific take on Batman, and Zimmer/Newton Howard is perfect for Nolan's vision and his specific take on Batman. Doesn't make either take invalid, just ... a different yet equally valid take on the same character.

People always says that, but you are aware that Elfman or another composer could have taken Elfman's theme and done some re-arrangements to make it fit the film. Heck, Elfman did that for Batman Returns. Listen to the music in Batman and then the one in Batman Returns. Both are different in tone and mood. B89 is dark but heroic. Returns is dark and depressing. And, Elfman also uses a choir which he didn't use in B89 except for Descent Into Mystery.

 

[Katsuro]

People always says that, but you are aware that Elfman or another composer could have taken Elfman's theme and done some re-arrangements to make it fit the film. Heck, Elfman did that for Batman Returns. Listen to the music in Batman and then the one in Batman Returns. Both are different in tone and mood. B89 is dark but heroic. Returns is dark and depressing. And, Elfman also uses a choir which he didn't use in B89 except for Descent Into Mystery.

Any changes to fit the Elfman theme in Begins would've been to big to still consider it the same theme. If it was recognizable as Elfmans theme, then it wouldn't have fit.

Besides, why try to make it fit? They're trying to get across the point that this is a new franchise of films, so why stick with the same music?