Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 2

[Angamb]

Why do people keep saying that this will be the last film for the original cast? Because the fans prefer the cast of First Class more, that the series will thrive more by rebooting this series just like Fantastic Four/Spider-Man, to be more creative by focusing on smaller characters/spin-offs. This is the first movie of the original since 2006, making this as their last movie or the last movie in the series before the reboot is not smart. And as if the original cast are tired of appearing in X-Men movies, they are all excited and willing to return in a X-Men movie. They have the original masterminds of this series- Bryan Singer and Lauren Shuler Donner on board, a reboot isn't happening any time soon.

I love your thinking.

not to say I feel the same

 

[SuperT]

Maybe because the actors are getting older and some of them may not be able to do this forever, or maybe because we had a shift in focus in FC, so it seems logical to carry on with it... I don't know why other people keep saying it, but I can tell you why I think this may be the last film for them.

Knowing that this movie will bring up the whole time-travel, parallel universe thing to the franchise, I feel like it would be the perfect send-off to the old cast. I feel like we didn't get the ending we deserved, so this is a chance for Singer to end the OT respectfully, the way he intends to, so even if he never returns to the franchise after this, he would know that there won't be someone like Ratner who'll come after and **** up everything.

Besides, if DOFP is all about going back to the past to chance something, that might mean that the OT will remain in a parallel universe to the FC one (if they successfully chance the past of course) one the movie ends, like the Star Trek reboot. Talking about time travel is confusing indeed. But I feel like there would be no better time to wrap up the OT than now. I would much rather prefer to see a good ending to their story, than to see it stretch out to something like X3.

But who knows?

This is an excellent point and one that I have never really thought of myself. If they wanted to take the franchise in a fresh direction while still being able to use the characters we are familiar with (Storm, Cykes, Jean Grey etc.) then making DOFP the start of an alternate reality in relation to the past franchise and the First Class franchise would be the way to go.

That way you get the best of both worlds like Star Trek reboot in 2009. The original Singer franchise isn't irrelevant or erased and the new First Class franchise is able to grow and tackle new storylines with the same characters without having to be tied down to previous movies.

I think that's a genius idea.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

The Star Trek reboot was terrible IMO. And when they have literally 3 X-Men film series' at the moment, it would be silly to erase one or two of them just so they can "reboot". You don't reboot through time travel. You can retcon...but not reboot! Nobody time traveled to turn Tobey Maguire into Andrew Garfield...

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I was at IMDB.com in the DOFP and noticed that James Marsden is on the cast list although he's rumored to return... I dunno. Usually IMDB isn't up to date with the right information.

 

[Norek]

The Star Trek reboot was terrible IMO. And when they have literally 3 X-Men film series' at the moment, it would be silly to erase one or two of them just so they can "reboot". You don't reboot through time travel. You can retcon...but not reboot! Nobody time traveled to turn Tobey Maguire into Andrew Garfield...

 

[Norek]

I was at IMDB.com in the DOFP and noticed that James Marsden is on the cast list although he's rumored to return... I dunno. Usually IMDB isn't up to date with the right information.

IMDb is NEVER up to date with the right information, especially with casting... It is literally the worst source for that kind of information (about upcoming movies).

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

then they should make an effort to remove Marsden from the list...

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Reboots are stupid. Writers with no imagination or idea for anything original fall back on "let's just tell it all over again!" X-Men will be rebooted when Marvel gets the rights back. You think they'll reboot their series right after two big movies, DOFP being the biggest yet? The one that will "fix s@#%" according to Singer. So why fix everything just to undo everything, yet again?

 

[JP]

Whats wrong with having him listed as "rumored"?

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

It takes away my anticipation of wanting him to come back knowing that it may not happen any time soon. It's killing me. I swear...especially since you know...there might be a Jean Grey cameo in The Wolverine...but again, who knows what kind of cameo?

*pouts*

 

[marvelrobbins]

The Star Trek reboot was terrible IMO. And when they have literally 3 X-Men film series' at the moment, it would be silly to erase one or two of them just so they can "reboot". You don't reboot through time travel. You can retcon...but not reboot! Nobody time traveled to turn Tobey Maguire into Andrew Garfield...

Don't let others know what you think about Star Trek.Everybody Is suspose to love that.But seriously I am almost at point where The Wolverine Is about the
only summer 2013 film I am Intrested In.

The trilogy,first class,Wolverine solo films are all part of same franchise.It's like when there was 10 X-Men related titles being sold a month.

Bryan Singer saying he plans on doing some correcting.That screams retconning through time travel.X-Men In comics have a long history of retconning.

mark Millar has called The Wolverine The Iron Man of Fox's shared universe.A Film that takes place after Trilogy.

If Fox wanted to reboot so badly why bother with the wolverine and DOFP?Studios don't care about giving closure to film series since Hollywood has gone
reboot crazy.Paramount didn't give Star Trek as most fans knew It a final film to go out on high note.Sony didn't give a SPider-Man 4 so the series could go
out high.MGM didn't give Pierce Brosnon a fifth bond so the popular bond actor could go out on higher note than Die Another Day.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Reboots are stupid. Writers with no imagination or idea for anything original fall back on "let's just tell it all over again!" X-Men will be rebooted when Marvel gets the rights back. You think they'll reboot their series right after two big movies, DOFP being the biggest yet? The one that will "fix s@#%" according to Singer. So why fix everything just to undo everything, yet again?

Your drinking my koolad with those comments

But seriously why fix anything In DOFP to just start all over again

 

[Norek]

Reboots are stupid. Writers with no imagination or idea for anything original fall back on "let's just tell it all over again!" X-Men will be rebooted when Marvel gets the rights back. You think they'll reboot their series right after two big movies, DOFP being the biggest yet? The one that will "fix s@#%" according to Singer. So why fix everything just to undo everything, yet again?

Dude, no one is really talking about a reboot in the real sense of the word. My point was that they can go back to the FC class exclusively after DOFP, without having to bring the OT cast back for another appearance, or continuing with "X4" or whatever. By that time, I suspect, J-Law, Fassbender, Hoult and McAvoy will be big enough names for this franchise and will be able to carry it on without having to rely on OT actors. They can introduce young Jean, Cyclops, Storm, or whatever it is that they wish, have the movie take place in the past, and still be a part of the overall X-Men universe, though without the old actors anymore.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I seriously doudt there will be another FC era film after DOFP.If there were why bother correcting things through time travel.And why are so many of first Class actors being dropped.Even If Original trilogy actors only have 40 minutes of screentime and the time travel Is Xavier switching minds between patrick Stewert and James Mcavoy what do you want to bet OT actors scenes will be heavily used for trailers and promation.

 

[def28]

Reboots are stupid.

Would you rather we had a sequel to Batman and Robin instead of Batman Begins? Reboots can be a saving grace to keeping a franchise alive. X Men will reboot eventually, so better get used to the idea.

 

[SuperT]

Seriously, making an alternate timeline does not make something a "reboot." The Amazing Spiderman, the new Fantastic Four in development - those are reboots. The Star Trek franchise that started in 2009 was essentially not a reboot because EVERYTHING that happened in the older movies still happened and is canon and still essential to the overall story of the franchise.

DOFP would almost essentially have to deal with creating alternate timelines, that was the whole point in the comics. The X-Men sent someone back in time so that their characters in the past wouldn't have to deal with what they were facing in their current future. That's essentially the whole point of time travel.

That wouldn't eliminate or make the past three movies irrelevant by any means. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta to clean some things up, not to mention there's way too many factors when it comes to actors wanting to play the same characters for the next 10-15 years.

I'm not saying that's what WILL happen or what should, but it's certainly a idea to consider since at this point all anyone here is doing is speculating about everything.

 

[JP]

James is currently promoting Trance and is doing press rounds.

Speaking to BANG Showbiz at the premiere of his new movie 'Trance' in London's Leicester Square on Tuesday (19.03.13), he revealed: ''I'm doing 'X-Men' next, which is lighter [than 'Trance'] but Charles is going to be in a dark place, I think.
''It's fine, though. It's quite nice to be in a darker place for a little while.''


Although the film's plot has been shrouded in secrecy, McAvoy added: ''I can tell you it's set in the Seventies. So, flares and sideburns.''

http://www.tv3.ie/entertainment_article.php?locID=1.803.810&article=98647


And here's a video from Empire. Talks about flairs and costume fittings. Also mentions he wont be free until the end of the year. So I assume he will be filming X-Men until October.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36867

 

[Norek]

I seriously doudt there will be another FC era film after DOFP.If there were why bother correcting things through time travel.

Because DOFP makes an awesome template for a movie adaptation, especially considering we have 2 eras of X-Men movies now. Because Singer has the chance to "fix" some **** that people have done to a franchise that he feels strongly for and will have the chance to work with great actors once more? Because a "crossover" movie always gets a lot of attention. There are many reasons.

And why are so many of first Class actors being dropped..

Well actually, the 4 "core" characters from FC are back. Others getting dropped may or may not be a favor of all the OT actors that are coming back, and there's always the possibility that Havoc and Banshee will be back. Others like Riptide, Angel and Azazel... Ehh, whatever.

Even If Original trilogy actors only have 40 minutes of screentime and the time travel Is Xavier switching minds between patrick Stewert and James Mcavoy what do you want to bet OT actors scenes will be heavily used for trailers and promation.

Oh, that's pretty much a given, no doubt about it. I'm just not sure what does that have to do with this being the "final" appearance of the OT.

 

[def28]

Seriously, making an alternate timeline does not make something a "reboot."

If they wanted to use that timeline to erase prior history and restart everything without going back to the originals again it is. It's just using a different method of doing it.

 

[JP]

I'm tired of people talking about First Class characters being dropped. There were 4 main characters in First Class and all four are back.

 

[Norek]

Seriously, making an alternate timeline does not make something a "reboot." The Amazing Spiderman, the new Fantastic Four in development - those are reboots. The Star Trek franchise that started in 2009 was essentially not a reboot because EVERYTHING that happened in the older movies still happened and is canon and still essential to the overall story of the franchise.

DOFP would almost essentially have to deal with creating alternate timelines, that was the whole point in the comics. The X-Men sent someone back in time so that their characters in the past wouldn't have to deal with what they were facing in their current future. That's essentially the whole point of time travel.

That wouldn't eliminate or make the past three movies irrelevant by any means. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta to clean some things up, not to mention there's way too many factors when it comes to actors wanting to play the same characters for the next 10-15 years.

I'm not saying that's what WILL happen or what should, but it's certainly a idea to consider since at this point all anyone here is doing is speculating about everything.

I pretty much agree with everything in this post.

The "ST" pseudo-reboot thing was necessary because that's one hell of a franchise, and simply making a standard reboot would be to piss on the whole mythology that was build for decades. They didn't want to do that, so that's why everything ST-related is still relevant, but the new franchise is not limited to anything from it.

By having DOFP as a sequel to both FC and X3, Singer has the chance to finally give his old trilogy a proper and satisfying send-off, and the FC franchise can go on in a different direction, and no one will have to worry about continuity issues and be limited by old films. Going back to the OT in DOFP would ensure that it's still relevant, but separating both universes would ensure the "freshness" of the FC franhise, meaning you will never know what can come up next for the new characters, and whatever it is doesn't mess up in any way the OT-timeline, because they're now separate from one another.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

I pretty much agree with everything in this post.

The "ST" pseudo-reboot thing was necessary because that's one hell of a franchise, and simply making a standard reboot would be to piss on the whole mythology that was build for decades. They didn't want to do that, so that's why everything ST-related is still relevant, but the new franchise is not limited to anything from it.

By having DOFP as a sequel to both FC and X3, Singer has the chance to finally give his old trilogy a proper and satisfying send-off, and the FC franchise can go on in a different direction, and no one will have to worry about continuity issues and be limited by old films. Going back to the OT in DOFP would ensure that it's still relevant, but separating both universes would ensure the "freshness" of the FC franhise, meaning you will never know what can come up next for the new characters, and whatever it is doesn't mess up in any way the OT-timeline, because they're now separate from one another.

I understand , there should be a First Class series that continues on its own. But what I'm saying is, why limit it? It would be like not going back to the solo films after Avengers. By closing the doors, it limits the possibilities IMO. Not ALL reboots are stupid, let me take what I said back. Making a reboot so soon after the non-rebooted series is stupid I think. I thought some parts of ASM were good, but the entire concept was so soon, it turned me off. Batman Begins was necessary in a post 9/11 world, to reboot movies and make them more realistic and accessable after such a turn of events with B+R. Man of Steel is necessary after Superman Returns and Smallville, two separate continuties that continued to drag out things from 70s movies...to bring things into the Nolan-esq world. I guess what I'm saying is, the original X-Men cast still has so much potential, the casting still holds, the stories are untold and they could do good things with them. Have another First Class movie, another OT type movie, a FF movie, maybe another Wolverine or some other solo character and you can bring them all together for another crossover film in a few years. The layout is all there, they just need to fill in the blanks with movies.

Plus we don't know what new storyline possibilities will arise from this movie. We might end on a cliffhanger with Cable and Apocalypse or something.

 

[SuperT]

I'm tired of people talking about First Class characters being dropped. There were 4 main characters in First Class and all four are back.

Exactly! Not to mention we still have no definitive word on Lucas Till, Caleb Landry Jones and Rose Byrne either or what new characters will be added to the First Class team other than what people are speculating.

Or for that matter January Jones other than some article that said the Hellfire Club wouldn't be back. Until it comes from the mouth of Singer or production it's all speculation.

 

[Mulholland-Jr]

IMDb is NEVER up to date with the right information, especially with casting... It is literally the worst source for that kind of information (about upcoming movies).

Yep, it's user edited. Took me months to get Matthew Vaughn a producer credit on there.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Seriously, making an alternate timeline does not make something a "reboot." The Amazing Spiderman, the new Fantastic Four in development - those are reboots. The Star Trek franchise that started in 2009 was essentially not a reboot because EVERYTHING that happened in the older movies still happened and is canon and still essential to the overall story of the franchise.

DOFP would almost essentially have to deal with creating alternate timelines, that was the whole point in the comics. The X-Men sent someone back in time so that their characters in the past wouldn't have to deal with what they were facing in their current future. That's essentially the whole point of time travel.

That wouldn't eliminate or make the past three movies irrelevant by any means. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta to clean some things up, not to mention there's way too many factors when it comes to actors wanting to play the same characters for the next 10-15 years.

I'm not saying that's what WILL happen or what should, but it's certainly a idea to consider since at this point all anyone here is doing is speculating about everything.

It's one thing to wait almost 9 years as was done for Batman and reboot.Like as much as I love tim Burton batman films I was ok for that.The problem Is now rebooting again.It almost makes money spent on Batman Begins,The Dark Knight,and The Dark Knight rises a waste of time.That's part of reason I have no Intrest In yet another batman reboot.I don't want to get suckered another time.

Or to wait years like what was done with say Planet of the Apes.But studios are rebooting after they have sucessful entries.

disagree on Star Trek.It's clear from everything on Into Darkness they are more Intrested In being like Star Wars and other summer blockbusters and rehashing last film.The prequel comic shows nothing before Star Trek 2009
Is relvent anymore.

If there was a Batman and robin style disappointment then yes Fox would jump on reboot wagon.