Deadpool Deadpool News and Discussion - Part 4

[AndrewGilkison]

If you are comparing Deadpool to a Scary Movie type of parody movie than you are already off base. That is not what this film is at all.

 

[BlackFox]

^ Sorry for not being more specific, but can you elaborate on how it "actually shows a great deal of respect for the X-world", especially in relation to what's come before?

Well as I mentioned it give us a much more comic book accurate Colussus for one and the outfits may be more pleasing compared to common complaints about the black-leather gear the X-Men usually wear in these films so it adheres to the source material for X-Men comics in a lot of ways previous movies didnt it or some think anyways. Depends how much value you hold in these things.

Also as I said it does poke fun at times at the X-World but in a way you would expect the DP character to do in the comic books (and other franchises for that matter) but not it a way that makes them seem irrelevant or in a belittling way, its very much still steeped in that X-World and has several familiar components from the already established X-Men movie world, at no point does it descend into parody or spoof territory, its more nods and knowing winks to the often absurd nature of comic book movie/books (which is sort of Deadpools point all along anyway)

 

[DigificWriter]

If you are comparing Deadpool to a Scary Movie type of parody movie than you are already off base. That is not what this film is at all.

That's what it seemed like based on the brief trailers/TV spots that I saw.

I'm rather sensitive when it comes to the integrity of the X-franchise, since it's my favorite currently running superhero film franchise and I don't particularly like 'parody' stuff to begin with.

I'd still like more people to chime in with their thoughts on how/why Deadpool is worth checking out as a fan of the already-existing X-films, but want to thank BlackFox for his/her comments.

 

[BlackFox]

That's what it seemed like based on the brief trailers/TV spots that I saw.

I'm rather sensitive when it comes to the integrity of the X-franchise, since it's my favorite currently running superhero film franchise and I don't particularly like 'parody' stuff to begin with.

I'd still like more people to chime in with their thoughts on how/why Deadpool is worth checking out as a fan of the already-existing X-films, but want to thank BlackFox for his/her comments.

No worries, happy to help

My final comment would be to just check it out, its a great deal of fun and worth it in its own right anyway. Just my two cents.

 

[Mad Ones]

It fleshes out the ending of DOFP by showing the X-men as functioning and training students (it only uses Colossus and NTW to do so, but the point still comes across). We get to see the mansion again and multiple references to the X-world.

It's not a spoof but it does use meta-humor. Deadpool knows the rules of the genre and makes fun of some of its conventions. It's very entertaining, especially if you follow CBMs like many of us do. None of the other characters contribute to Deadpool's meta-humor, so the world still feels real, with just the zaniness of the title character. It's an origin story for a character that isn't in the X-movies, so it's not mandatory viewing for the X-Universe, but at the very least it shows a functioning X-world in the present.

And this series will introduce Cable, and likely some other characters from the comics. The quality of the movie is much better than XO:W and overall does a better job contributing to this world than a movie like that did.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Deadpools style of comedy and parody is nothing like scary movie. The movie is great because its 110% true to the character and the spirit of the character. And they actually get the origin right by adapting in a manor that doesn't step on any toes.

 

[def28]

There's far too much good wom out there by now with this being not only the most successful X-Men related film but one of the most successful first comic IP's. There's hardly anything negative being said, so you really have to hunt for a reason not to watch.

This movie was a huge success on just about every level and is led by probably the most passionate team of comic film makers. They fought for years and wanted nothing more then to give audiences an accurate portrayal. Calling this a parody like Scary Movie is just a flat out insult. They knew how to bring the heart and drama alongside the hilarious humor and action. Not an easy balancing act.

If someone is an X-Men fan seeing Colossus actually be something more then a prop should be worth the price alone. He's an actual character now. These guys also took a Z list X-Men like Negasonic and made her stand out and kick ass. Then there's the potential of major Deadpool/X-Force characters like Cable, Domino and Siryn down the road which is awesome. If Deadpool wasn't made those characters likely would not be getting their due at all. All of that is very exciting for the X-Men franchise and will expand it in new ways.

 

[Smilodon]

Deadpool is the new Iron Man and Ryan is our new RDJ. This crew is going to take the X-Men to new heights never seen before and if we're lucky, guys like Mangold/Boone will follow.

Miller and co. used 5 guys and invented new technology to create Colossus. The ridges of his metal self? Getting it to move organically required a new kinda CGI. That kinda effort alone should provide insight into how dedicated and passionate these guys are into bringing the X-Men to life. Not to mention how they tried to deliberately anchor it to the overall X-Men world in their own Deadpool-way. They specifically added scenes like the Blackbird so audiences would recognize NTW and Colossus as X-Men. They are very intent on maintaining the integrity of the source material.

 

[Sleiek]

You're not answering the question I'm asking, though, and injecting stuff into the conversation that has nothing to do with what I'm actually wanting people to do.

Convince me - as someone who has no desire to see Deadpool, buy the blu-ray release, or acknowledge's the film's existence as part of the X-franchise at all - why I should change my mind.

I wasn't answering your question. Just laying out what was on my mind when I read your post.

 

[def28]

Deadpool is the new Iron Man and Ryan is our new RDJ. This crew is going to take the X-Men to new heights never seen before and if we're lucky, guys like Mangold/Boone will follow.

Yeah, Deapdool is likely to set up the X-Force side of things in a similar fashion as Iron Man did to the Avengers. If they cast Cable accordingly and Deadpool 2 is just as well received as this was then X-Force should be a beast. Hopefully they can set up X-23 in Wolverine 3 for joining up too. A team with Deadpool, Domino, Cable, and X-23 amongst a couple of others would be pretty cool.

 

[Dopinder]

Deadpool blu ray release commercial.

https://youtu.be/bYw4Gg2vw5c

 

[Dopinder]

Aww yeah. Deadpool sets new digital hd sales record

http://variety.com/2016/digital/new...al-hd-sales-records-on-home-video-1201767730/

 

[P Supreme]

That's what it seemed like based on the brief trailers/TV spots that I saw.

I'm rather sensitive when it comes to the integrity of the X-franchise, since it's my favorite currently running superhero film franchise and I don't particularly like 'parody' stuff to begin with.

I'd still like more people to chime in with their thoughts on how/why Deadpool is worth checking out as a fan of the already-existing X-films, but want to thank BlackFox for his/her comments.

IMO it pokes fun at how much more $$ the x-men get for there movies compared to Deadpool's budget and that is about it they established Professor X exist and doesn't endorse what Deadpool does and would like to consult him and Deadpool refuses to do so but never does it "parody" the x-men franchise

 

[def28]

Aww yeah. Deadpool sets new digital hd sales record

http://variety.com/2016/digital/new...al-hd-sales-records-on-home-video-1201767730/

This is awesome. So glad this film is being rewarded on every level.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

I have a request: I want people to tell me why they think Deadpool is worth seeing/including/(eventually) buying as part of the larger FOX X-franchise, keeping in mind that it came across to me as one of those horrible "spoof movies" (like Vampires Suck, The Starving Games, etc.) and consequently doesn't seem like it would add anything particularly relevant to the overall pre-existing and 16-year-strong FOX X-franchise.

I don't think there's a need to be so sensitive about it. If you see it and don't like it--don't see the rest of the eventual Deadpool franchise. I doubt he'll ever make it into an X-Men movie or that they'll have something important to the story-overall happen in one of his films. And if he did come into an X-Men movie, the producers and Singer know well enough to not let him 'ruin' the tone of an X-film.

I recommend Deadpool most highly. It's my 2nd favorite comic book film, actually. Let me give you my background in X-fandom so you can see where I come from on it:

X-Men is both my favorite comic film franchise and comic book (Chris Claremont's run, 'natch). I didn't like the series at first--it was too far removed from the comic book (in tone), but starting from The Last Stand they've been gradually getting better for me (Sans Origins). Retroactively I've come to appreciate the original film more, and I like X2, although it's hideously overrated.

Deadpool is a stirring drama and romance above all else. Is it funny? Yes, excruciatingly so. It has a dirty sense of humor (doesn't bother me). But the film is also practically infected with heart. Wade Wilson is a character who doesn't see himself as a hero or a good guy, but the thing is, he is. His humor can be read as a coping mechanism in some ways, I feel. He has a checkered past and has tried to turn over a new leaf and become a mercenary for the little guy. It's a revenge tale, and it's very character driven, in ways that Bryan Singer could actually do some learning from.

The action is exceptional. Some of the best in the series, standing toe-to-toe with DOFP and (by the looks of it) Apocalypse. It also, finally, has a proper depiction of Colossus. He's played for laughs at-times (by contrast to Wade), but he himself isn't foolish. He's kind-hearted and very moral.

Deadpool is a very different character from other X-Men. Just know that going in. If you're going to be bothered by a hero who wisecracks and self-depreciates, then you may not enjoy it--but that's who Wade Wilson is. The film plays with those conventions, assaulting you with the character's humor and then pulling you back to his origin to give you new information about Wade--his heart and soul (the man behind the jokes)--which reframes how you see him after he becomes Deadpool. It's brilliantly handled.

I wouldn't categorize the film as a comedy. Yes, that's a huge part of it and it's what most people enjoy the most, but I was quite shocked by how dramatic and moving it was. Had the film been what you fear it is--just childishness and crudeness--I wouldn't have liked it. Having worked in a comic book shop I loathed DP's fans, but the character himself actually carries a lot of dramatic weight--most of his fans just don't gravitate to that aspect. To be honest, I think he would work quite well on the X-Men because his backstory carries the same weight as Ororo or Logan or any of the others--he's just got a sense of humor.

It doesn't add much to the whole universe (as yet, wait 'til they bring in Cable), but it does deal with things the main franchise hasn't seen yet. In Origins, Wade was a mutant. Here, he's human (like the comics) and he's turned into a mutant. So that's the first exploration of the mutates in the film series. It explores (in a much better fashion) the type of concepts Weapon-X should have been in Origins. Forced experimentation and such.

Watch it, dude. You already think outside the box since I've seen elsewhere you like The Last Stand (as do I, quite a lot); I think you'll be surprised how much you enjoy it.

 

[Faora]

Japan.

 

[Sleiek]

Wow. That looks so well made!

Btw, I watched Deadpool again and I realized the final fight is far better than I remembered. Bumping my score.

But still a teeny bit disappointed that nothing in the movie matches up to the opening fight - The highway sequence.

Such a blast.

 

[-JKR-]

The opening sequence is awesome and pretty unique, but I really liked both the Workshop fight in the fire and the final showdown. I wasn't let down, action-wise, and director Tim Miller did a great job creating momentum during the action scenes and making them feel exciting and exhilerating.

 

[Dopinder]

The opening sequence is awesome and pretty unique, but I really liked both the Workshop fight in the fire and the final showdown. I wasn't let down, action-wise, and director Tim Miller did a great job creating momentum during the action scenes and making them feel exciting and exhilerating.

I was very impressed with how easy it was to follow the action in Deadpool. Also, the action scenes had impact, you felt when people got hurt, shot, stabbed etc.

In comparison, while I thought Civil War had some terrific action, some of it was ruined by shaky cam and frantic cuts. Not the case with Deadpool.

I'd love to see what Tim Miller and his team can do on a bigger budget.

 

[Sleiek]

The opening sequence is awesome and pretty unique, but I really liked both the Workshop fight in the fire and the final showdown. I wasn't let down, action-wise, and director Tim Miller did a great job creating momentum during the action scenes and making them feel exciting and exhilerating.

On my second viewing, I appreciated the final fight far more than I did in my first viewing. I did have a lot of fun the first time around but it is just not as memorable as the high speed motorway fight. Oh man oh man, did the opening sequence rapidly increased my expectations.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Gonna be buying the blu-ray later today. So excited to own it.

 

[def28]

Honest Trailer is up! It's awesome.

 

[Sleiek]

Yeah, just saw it. Did they get Ryan Reynolds to do the voice over? So damn funny. Deadpool wants everyone to suck his ****.

 

[Nathan]

Man, I actually had a dream that they made Deadpool 2, and gave him his inner voices, getting rid of Weasel and any other supporting characters in the process. And the Movie did nothing but piss me off.

 

[BlackFox]

Yeah, just saw it. Did they get Ryan Reynolds to do the voice over? So damn funny. Deadpool wants everyone to suck his ****.

Yep thats him most def, put a big ol smile on my face after reading all those Apoc reviews, just what the doctor ordered. Hilarious as ever.