Deadpool thread.

[superkong 500]

My questions are this, could deadpool be made as an anti-hero but make him become a better man during the movie, as fighting for a purpose maybe love instead of money? and in the comics is he more of a guns and machine guns guy, or more of a kicking, punching, sword swinging ninja type? I would prefer the second more than the first, it would show more of his fighting skills and look bad ass. I can imagine him in a room full of masked ,heavily armed trained henchmen, and DP enters and starts kicking and punching them real fast and then takes his swords out and slashes them one by one, what a cool scene it would be.

 

[Savage]

He's actually everything you described. His fighting style is more crazy and eratic though. It's a combination of guns and martial arts...Watch Equilibrium orrr...I dunno "The One" with Jet Li maybe...Maybe even the Matrix movies which he blatantly rips off from time to time. It's very much guns and Kung Fu and when he runs out of ammo he whips out the swords and goes ballistic, all while making wise ass remarks...He's a walking Rush Hour movie.

And I don't think he should be made a full fledged hero by the end. That ruins what makes him cool. He's the exact opposite of someone like Peter Parker. He wasn't a nerd, he was a bully. He was a creep who drank and probably did drugs as a teenager and ran with the wrong crowd and only grew up to be an even bigger jerk as a mercenary, not giving a damn about human life. You can say his becoming Deadpool is karma catching up with him and punishing him...In this way his character also rips off Spawn but hey, he's 500 times cooler so who cares?

 

[OrzhovSyndicate]

Equilibrium was a good movie, would be cool if DP fight like John Preston + Spiderman's reflex. Can DP teleport? if so that would make the fight scene really cool!

 

[MangleBoP]

Equilibrium was a good movie, would be cool if DP fight like John Preston + Spiderman's reflex. Can DP teleport? if so that would make the fight scene really cool!

Yes, and no. He uses a teleporter device built into his suit/belt from time to time, but cannot do so on his own, so BAMF-ing around like Nightcrawler takes a lot of juice. His teleporter does have a longer range, though, so he uses it for getaways.
BTW, his healling factor can not only regrow limbs, but even his head has been known to regenerate after being blown off! It took a while, and he had to regrow his memories.(Imagine growing your arm back, then having to regrow the tattoos!)
As for his mental issues, it was recently explained that his healing factor never cured the cancer, so instead it was just fixing the damage as it happened, so his cells were in a constant state of flux, with effected his thought processes. Cable recently "cured" him, by performing telepathic/telekinetic microsurgery (burning out most of Cable's powers in the process!), however, since Deadpool still acts like a complete psycho, it's believed that he was pretty 4^(<!~& nut's before he had cancer!

 

[cerealkiller182]

Few people seem to be confused on what side DP is one and nobody seemed to have given a clear repsonse.

He walks the line so to speak.

He is a merc and pretty much does anything he wants, but in a recent run before Cable and Deadpool when they restarted Weapon X he joined against his own will and at one point became very angry with Kane for killing a young boy. Theres still an ounce of hero in him. Even now in Cable and Deadpool, he has a friendly rivalry with Cable but now they seem like ebst friends. The recent issue even has DP working for Cable as an agent to snoop around the new Avengers tower. And he believes in Cables perfect world.

To me hes a tragic hero. He has all the making of a hero except he has no (or a very little amount of) sanity.

 

[superkong 500]

He's actually everything you described. His fighting style is more crazy and eratic though. It's a combination of guns and martial arts...Watch Equilibrium orrr...I dunno "The One" with Jet Li maybe...Maybe even the Matrix movies which he blatantly rips off from time to time. It's very much guns and Kung Fu and when he runs out of ammo he whips out the swords and goes ballistic, all while making wise ass remarks...He's a walking Rush Hour movie.

And I don't think he should be made a full fledged hero by the end. That ruins what makes him cool. He's the exact opposite of someone like Peter Parker. He wasn't a nerd, he was a bully. He was a creep who drank and probably did drugs as a teenager and ran with the wrong crowd and only grew up to be an even bigger jerk as a mercenary, not giving a damn about human life. You can say his becoming Deadpool is karma catching up with him and punishing him...In this way his character also rips off Spawn but hey, he's 500 times cooler so who cares?

I understand but remember if made it would be a mainstream movie so for the apeal they have to make him atleast likeable for ex: show that he cares for someone, he doesn't have to be a hero literally speaking, but give him a character arc in which he learns a lesson and actually ends up doing some good even though at the end remaining the same jerk, if you know what I mean, after all he's not a complete villain, how do you qualify him? a villain or between?

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Few people seem to be confused on what side DP is one and nobody seemed to have given a clear repsonse.

He walks the line so to speak.

He is a merc and pretty much does anything he wants, but in a recent run before Cable and Deadpool when they restarted Weapon X he joined against his own will and at one point became very angry with Kane for killing a young boy. Theres still an ounce of hero in him. Even now in Cable and Deadpool, he has a friendly rivalry with Cable but now they seem like ebst friends. The recent issue even has DP working for Cable as an agent to snoop around the new Avengers tower. And he believes in Cables perfect world.

To me hes a tragic hero. He has all the making of a hero except he has no (or a very little amount of) sanity.

That's how I look at him too. You don't have to be a brooding hero on a building perch to be tragic, just have tragic situations, and Deadpool certainly has that (he's stuck on this world because of his healing factor, and he's too insane for him to be a real hero or to be accepted by anyone).

 

[The_Raven]

 

[HighVoltage]

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Who´s that RedHead? Is Jean or Mary Jane?

 

[superkong 500]

It would be cool and funny to see this scene in the movie, but with regular people of course not other heros, but to see DP making phone pranks, that's what this is right?

 

[cerealkiller182]

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Who´s that RedHead? Is Jean or Mary Jane?

I would think Syrin from X-Factor

 

[cerealkiller182]

How should Weasel look. Someimtes he looks like a real geek, but sometimes he looks very average.

 

[superkong 500]

How should Weasel look. Someimtes he looks like a real geek, but sometimes he looks very average.

this doesn't have to do with that but is rather another question, how should they(director, writter etc.) balance deadpool's sense of humour with his dark edge bad ass style, I mean I don't want him to end up being spidey, I want him to joke and all that becasue his humour is pretty dark, but I also want to see him sometimes very serious when he's fighting like ten men at a time ,he should say some crude joke but maintain the joke level low, if not it could end up being somewhat distracting and maybe even campy to certain point.

 

[Savage]

I understand but remember if made it would be a mainstream movie so for the apeal they have to make him atleast likeable for ex: show that he cares for someone, he doesn't have to be a hero literally speaking, but give him a character arc in which he learns a lesson and actually ends up doing some good even though at the end remaining the same jerk, if you know what I mean, after all he's not a complete villain, how do you qualify him? a villain or between?

As mentioned before, he walks that line. But I was responding to your idea that he should learn a lesson. I can see him saying something like "Maybe I should use these amazing gifts for GOOD and not my own personal profit and selfish needs!...NAAAH!".

 

[Savage]

this doesn't have to do with that but is rather another question, how should they(director, writter etc.) balance deadpool's sense of humour with his dark edge bad ass style, I mean I don't want him to end up being spidey, I want him to joke and all that becasue his humour is pretty dark, but I also want to see him sometimes very serious when he's fighting like ten men at a time ,he should say some crude joke but maintain the joke level low, if not it could end up being somewhat distracting and maybe even campy to certain point.

Deadpool IS a campy character though. He's insane. Not just that but INSANELY innapropiate and annoying. I mean as soon as his books open there's a splash page of him beating up like 10 guys at once while cracking jokes in almost every issue.

I'm not saying it should be like this in the movie but the only time he should REALLY be serious is when the life of someone he cares about is in danger...Or a kid. Guy loves kids. But when it comes to saving the world stuff, and even when his own life is in danger, he takes it as a complete joke.

Deadpool while fighting Apocalypse's guards-"Apocy-lips is like my newest favorite world-conquering guy ever! I mean check these guys out! They're like living, breathing, walking McFarlane toys!"

 

[deemar325]

^ Classic.

 

[Wolverine84]

that's why Dane Cook is perfect.

 

[cerealkiller182]

As mentioned before, he walks that line. But I was responding to your idea that he should learn a lesson. I can see him saying something like "Maybe I should use these amazing gifts for GOOD and not my own personal profit and selfish needs!...NAAAH!".

I think the whole "life lesson" thing is pretty important for an anti-hero. It goes hand and hand with most storylines. I think the easiest way to get around this would be to make the movie Bourne Identity style(with more dialogue of course) where hes an ex-agent for a super soldier program on the run. Change the subtext of the story (hero trying to stop villain to villain trying to kill hero)

I always envisioned the ending to a deadpool movie to show The Director(of Weapon X but for a movie rename it to make it seperate from Xmen) taking a call after DP is thought to have died in an explosion. DP talks with a serious tone but the words are very joking. He warns the Director to stop looking for him or else, he proves he can see him at that very moment and then somehow tricks him to look oout the window where he would snipe him out. Then zoom in the on the phone where you hear DP say "Sucker!" and then fade to black.

 

[Savage]

Ah. I get ya. Well of course he's going to learn a lesson, I just don't think it should really change him. He should still remain a jerk that would kill anybody for the right price (as long as they're not a kid or somebody close to him).

I can see situations where he'd be serious though, like the one you mentioned. He's had many of those before (and still managed to be funny at the same time, like what you want).

"Is that a--"
"That's right. It's a bomb. It's the bomb-diggity. "

 

[superkong 500]

how do you think he should look, I think the suit should reamin the same red and black and the same design maybe with a few slight changes, lines and stuff and the mask should not have the stupid pointy tip at the back of his head (like deadpool /cable series), I prefer the regular spidey like mask(all round withno back tip ala Madureira), but the big question is should his eyes be all white or regular with the pupil and all?

 

[HighVoltage]

I would think Syrin from X-Factor

Thanks for the info.

 

[deemar325]

that's why Dane Cook is perfect.

"You know what I want? Venom! yeah venom like a snake, and nobody would f-ck with me! skeeting venom all over the place! or I'd be one of those 'Aliens' with the extra jaw! and I'd be all wet and shiny and hisssing at people yeah! don't f-ck with me that's bada$$!"


Dane Cook is Deadpool!

 

[Savage]

how do you think he should look, I think the suit should reamin the same red and black and the same design maybe with a few slight changes, lines and stuff and the mask should not have the stupid pointy tip at the back of his head (like deadpool /cable series), I prefer the regular spidey like mask(all round withno back tip ala Madureira), but the big question is should his eyes be all white or regular with the pupil and all?

I actually dig the floppy tip. Makes him look like a robber or common street thug and even how he's pretty much a really imperfect knock off of other characters (most notably Deathstroke and Spider-man). And we should be able to see his pupils. That'll just add to the comedy seeing his eyes dart around behind the mask and seeing the imprint of his mouth go haywire underneath it from talking so rapidly...Made even better by the floppy tip in the back just making you think "...is this guy serious?"...Then he shoots your dog.

 

[cerealkiller182]

how do you think he should look, I think the suit should reamin the same red and black and the same design maybe with a few slight changes, lines and stuff and the mask should not have the stupid pointy tip at the back of his head (like deadpool /cable series), I prefer the regular spidey like mask(all round withno back tip ala Madureira), but the big question is should his eyes be all white or regular with the pupil and all?

The eyes have been something i have been wondering about also. In the comic his eyes are a comedic tool drawing them in absurdly big or shaped. I was actually thinking that they could CGI these crazy white pupild. If you remember the god awful Tick live-action show, he had the CGi antennae that moved around. They didnt look half bad, but Im still skeptical about the CGI. I dont think I would be two upset either way.

Or they could use the samething from spiderman but smaller.

 

[SouLeSS]

Sean William Scott, Ryan Renolds (though I heard he turned down this role already...don't know why) or maybe Tom Green.

Dane Cook, IMHO, is very overrated. His material isn't that good, the only reason he's so popular is cause he can pull it off. His stage presence is amazing (I've seen him live twice), but if you have someone else tell his jokes, they arn't very good. He, however, is not a good actor.

Though who I'de really like to see as the roll is either SWS or RR.