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CABLE #23
Written by DUANE SWIERCZYNSKI
Penciled by GABRIEL GUZMAN
Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
PRELUDE TO “X-MEN: SECOND COMING” EVENT!
“HOMECOMING, PART THREE”
The penultimate chapter in the X-Men saga that began with “Messiah CompleX” continues here!
As Cable and Hope fight their way back to the present, Bishop closes in on their trail, determined to stop them using the deadliest weapons at hand, be it a Prohibition-style tommy gun or heat-seeking brain needles of the near future. Meanwhile, a few decades from now, Cable and Hope meet an old ally who could either save them—or jeopardize everything. This is it…the penultimate issue of the time-hopping action thriller born in the pages of “Messiah CompleX.”
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99
 
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DEADPOOL #20
Written by DANIEL WAY
Penciled by CARLO BARBERI
Cover by JASON PEARSON
“WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN,” PART 2
Deadpool and Spider-Man team up (yes, team up) to combat the unstoppable killing machine known as Hitman Monkey!
Yes, Hitman Monkey.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99


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DEADPOOL: MERC WITH A MOUTH #8
Written by VICTOR GISCHLER
Penciled by BONG DAZO
Cover by ARTHUR SUYDAM
“NEXT STOP: ZOMBIEVILLE,” PART 1
Deadpool and Headpool head to the Zombieverse! You heard right. With the luscious Dr. Betty and the hapless Bill agent of A.I.M in tow, Wade dodges starving zombies who are hungry for their pound of flesh…and hooks up with very possibly the last stronghold of human life on the planet and its fearless leader: a sexy Ph.D. who’s mighty handy with a missile launcher. Watch out Dr. Betty, this book just got a new babe: Professor Veronica!
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99


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DEADPOOL TEAM-UP #896
Written by STUART MOORE
Penciled by SHAWN CRYSTAL
Cover by HUMBERTO RAMOS
“GOOD BUDDIES”
Get ready to hit the road with U.S. ACE, Marvel’s truckin’ hero! He’s back behind the wheels of a big rig with an unlikely partner -- DEADPOOL -- and together they’re puttin’ the hammer down, ridin’ the open road, and decapitatin’ giant killer raccoons. Good times…if they don’t kill each other first! Featuring the working-class villainy of THE HIGHWAYMAN, and the world premiere of the chart-toppin’ “Ballad of U.S. Ace,” composed and performed by Wade Wilson. What part of “Collector’s Item” don’t you understand?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99
 
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CABLE #21


STORY BY Duane Swierczynski
ART BY Paul Gulacy, Lan Medina, Humberto Ramos
LETTERS BY VC - Joe Caramagna
COVER BY Marko Djurdjevic
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $3.99
RELEASE DATE: Wed, December 16th, 2009

From the moment Cable jumped into the time stream with the infant “mutant messiah,” he’s had only one goal: keep Hope alive until she can choose her own destiny. But now, stranded on a planet in its death throes, eating fried rat on a stick for the millionth time, Hope turns to Cable and tells him she’s ready to go home. Thus begins “Homecoming,” the penultimate chapter in the X-Men saga that began with “Messiah CompleX.” It’s not only zero hour for Cable and Hope, but also for the mutant hunting them, Lucas Bishop, who is rapidly running out of chances to save mutantkind and the world. Because if Hope does make it back to the present, everything changes for the X-Men.
 
Anyone read the lastest issue? Hope's powers were finally revealed and she's a [blackout]telekinetic and hinted at being telepathic as well[/blackout]. The backstory that was in X-force also revealed more hints at her identity. [blackout]She hadan image of the fire of the phoenix in her eyes and says she'd come back from the dead to hurt Bishop[/blackout]
 
Don't we have enough mutants with that kind of powers already?
 
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CABLE #24
Written by DUANE SWIERCZYNSKI
Penciled by PAUL GULACY
Cover by MARKO DJURDJEVIC
"HOMECOMING," CONCLUSION
This is it. The conclusion of the time-hopping action thriller launched in the pages of "Messiah CompleX." After hopping around New York City in the past and near future, Cable and Hope are closer than ever to the present…which means that Bishop is more desperate than ever to stop them. No more hiding. No more plots. No more weapons. It's coming down to mutant vs. mutant in the subterranean tunnels of New York, and only one of them will make it back to Westchester alive. You will not want to miss this issue, which leads directly into the X-MEN: SECOND COMING crossover.
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99
 
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PRELUDE TO DEADPOOL CORPS #1 - #5 (of 5)
Written by VICTOR GISCHLER
Penciled by ROB LIEFELD (ISSUE #1), WHILCE PORTACIO (ISSUE #2), PHILIP BOND (ISSUE #3), PACO MEDINA (ISSUE #4), & KYLE BAKER (ISSUE #5)
Covers by DAVE JOHNSON
Issue #1 Variant Cover by ED MCGUINNESS
Witness the birth of the most important super hero team ever in a universe-spanning event that will rock the month of March! Wade Wilson has been tapped to save the Universe, and to do that he's going to need help. Enter: The sexy-but-insecure Lady Deadpool! The devious-but-lovable Headpool (a.k.a. the Zombie Deadpool Head)! The bratty-but-brilliant Kidpool! And the irascible mutt known as
Issue #1 40 PGS./Parental Advisory …$3.99
Issue #2-#5 32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99


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DEADPOOL CORPS: RANK AND FOUL
Written by JEFF CHRISTIANSEN, MICHAEL HOSKIN, RONALD BYRD, MIKE O'SULLIVAN, ERIC J. MOREELS, JACOB ROUGEMONT, MADISON CARTER, MARKUS RAYMOND, KEVIN GARCIA, STUART VANDAL, CHRIS BIGGS, MIKE GAGNON & ROB LONDON
Select Character Artwork by GUS VAZQUEZ
Cover by HUMBERTO RAMOS
In the Marvel Universe Handbook style, this one-shot has everything you need to make sense of Deadpool! (Is that even possible?) In this issue, there are more ALL-NEW profiles than 'Pool has voices in his head -- from "allies" (Outlaw, Weasel, Zombie Deadpool), to enemies (Ajax, Dr. Bong, Madcap), to the hotties (Dr. Betty, Blind Al, Big Bertha) and the sheer awesomeness of the Sack! How could you pass this up? You know at least one of your personalities will love it! Featuring NEW ART for dozens of characters! More fun than a barrel of gun-wielding monkeys!
64 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99


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DEADPOOL #21
Written by DANIEL WAY
Penciled by PACO MEDINA
Cover by JASON PEARSON
Deadpool and Spidey square off against one of the deadliest foes either of them has ever faced, Hitman Monkey! But can Deadpool do what it takes to rid New York of this terrifying new menace, or will he wilt under Hitman Monkey's soulful gaze?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99


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DEADPOOL TEAM-UP #895
Written by CHRISTOPHER LONG
Penciled by DALIBOR TALAJIC
Cover by HUMBERTO RAMOS
"HARD AS ROCK"
Off the coast of the Galápagos Islands, something hideous, something so deliciously amoral has vanquished the tranquility and shattered the peace — DEADPOOL! The legend no one can forget has been missing for years…yes, we're talking about It! The Living Colossus, the 30-foot-tall stone statue brought to life by wheelchair-bound Robert "Bob" O'Bryan. Enlisted by O'Bryan's niece, Deadpool takes a dive, plunging down to the ocean floor in search of the stone statue. But something more heinous than Deadpool's thoughts when he's watching lingerie football lurks in the ocean depths. And underwater, nobody can hear your hilarious one-liners!
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99


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DEADPOOL MERC WITH A MOUTH #9
Written by VICTOR GISCHLER
Penciled by BONG DAZO
Cover by ARTHUR SUYDAM
Bloodthirsty zombies and interdimensional travel have got Deadpool feeling a little, well, frisky. But there's only one way that Wade can earn the affection of the luscious duo of Dr. Betty and Professor Veronica: by capturing one of those pesky zombified super heroes for a little experiment. And just where does a can of "stink spray" fit into his plan? Answers inside.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$2.99
 
Cable's book is getting annoyingly repetitive. Same cat and mouse crap happens every 2 or 3 issues.
 
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I place most of the blame on editorial, but Duane really could have done something more with the limbo I'm figuring he's stuck in.
 
All roads lead home…even if they take you thousands of years into the future or hundreds of years into the past along the way. Cable and the "Messiah child" Hope have been running around the timestream for over fifteen years (in comic book time), all the while trying to stay out of Bishop's crosshairs. While struggling to stay alive during this journey, Hope has learned much from her surrogate father, including how to be a hero.

Hope and Cable have finally made the decision that it's time to head back to the present. If Cable is correct, Hope's return will signal the start of something grand for mutants. On the other hand, if Bishop is right, Hope's reappearance will be the beginning of an unequalled dark period for homo-superiors. Either way, the mutant corner of the Marvel Universe will change this March when "X-Men: Second Coming" begins.

Are Hope and Cable prepared for what's to come? Only the writer of "Cable" – Duane Swierczynski – can say for sure, which is why he's here to answer your questions in today's X-POSITION. Ah, what a perfect time of the year to discuss the coming of a Messiah…


Mauro Di Cosmo kicks things off for the day with a few queries about his favorite old codger…

1) Does the X-office have any plans to celebrate Cable's 20th Anniversary next year?


Wow, twenty years already and he doesn't seem a day over…uh, 63. Rest assured, the X-office has something special in mind for Cable next year. And not just an X-Jazzy tricked out with Gatling guns…


"Cable" gets closer to "Second Coming" with issue #22(Don't pretend like you don't know what a Jazzy is. You've seen the commercial…)

2) Will you still be writing for the X-office after "X-Men: Second Coming?"

There is an X-related miniseries in the works that I can't talk about just yet…otherwise, stay tuned.

3) I realize that not much can be said about "Second Coming," but will Cable fans be happy or depressed after the event? Will he still be around in a monthly?

Like you said, Mauro, not much can be said about "Second Coming" without ruining things. But Cable fans should know that he's absolutely central to the crossover. And for people who aren't reading "Cable" on a regular basis, you should definitely hop onto the new "Homecoming" arc (starting with the recent over-sized "Cable" #21). It's essential for what's to come.

4) Will Cable and Deadpool ever reunite in the present?

They're going to reunite sooner than you think. Check the April previews soon for a hint of the Cable and Deadpool reunion to end all Cable and Deadpool reunions.

Philip A Moore wants to know more about your plans – past and present:

1) Did you have an exact number of issues planned before "X-Men: Second Coming?" Did you get to tell all the stories you wanted to tell?


When I first started planning "Cable" with Axel Alonso and the rest of the X-office back in the summer of 2007, I had an exact number of issues in mind: 24 - roughly two years' worth of story. And I plotted it the same way I plot my novels: there was an opening situation (mutant soldier and cute baby, on the run through time), complicating factors (Bishop, who would stop at nothing to kill the baby), and finally, an end point in mind (the baby's safe return to the present).


I knew I wanted to tell certain kinds of stories along the way – for example, I'd been dying to tell the Cable and Hope separated-in-time story (what became "Cable" #15 and 16) since the very beginning. But I focused on one arc a time, trying to make sure each one was new-reader-accessible.

Did I tell every story I wanted? No – but then again, you never do.

2) One of my favorite books written by you was "Werewolf By Night" Max. I'd like to know is there a chance for a sequel (or maybe an ongoing)? You left the book with a nasty cliff hanger…

Thanks Philip – very glad you enjoyed it. I'd love to write a sequel, but nothing's planned at the moment. However, at the risk of shameless self-promotion, there is a sort of weird Werewolf by Night cameo in my next crime novel, "Expiration Date," which is out next April.

No risk here, Duane, just lots of holiday love! As a matter of fact, BH wants to shower you with some of that right now…

"Messiah War" was a crossover that seemed to divide a lot of readers, but as a Stryfe fan I was nothing but ecstatic at the character's handling by you and your co-writers. I have two questions about Stryfe for you:

1) A dozen years is a lot of time to spend with someone. Are they any plans to expand on what exactly happened between Bishop and Stryfe during this time period?


You know, that would be a great launching point for a miniseries – kind of a post-apocalyptic buddy comedy: "Life With Stryfe."

2) Any comment on the future of Stryfe? Like the rumor that Cable is possibly going to transfer his psyche over to Stryfe's T-O virus-clean and youthful body?

Who's spreading this rumor about Stryfe's "youthful body?" I do not think Lord Stryfe would like you talking about him in this way.

Taimur Dar was curious about another "youthful body" running around the Marvel Mutant U at the moment. Any comment on this particular X-Man?

1) With Nate Grey/X-Man returning to the Marvel Universe, are there any plans for a "family reunion" with Cable?

A Cable family reunion would quite possibly be the most dysfunctional family reunion ever. How do you even begin to do the seating chart? Do the clones get their own table?

Seriously, though – keep your eyes on "Second Coming."

2) In a non-X related question, now that "Immortal Weapons" has concluded, are there any new Iron Fist projects on the horizon for you that fans should watch out for?

Nothing on the horizon – but I had an absolute blast with Iron Fist for the year and a half I was on board. I'd return to Danny's world in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd love to tell a year's worth of Orson Randall stories.

Joshua Hetherington feels as though Hope and Cable could use some friends to hang around with in the present. Are you able to oblige?

1) With Cable's return to the present, will we be seeing a more "permanent" roster of supporting characters featured hanging around with Hope and Cable? Maybe Domino? Cannonball? Boom Boom?


That's something that will be revealed in "Second Coming," so I can't say anything at the moment.

2) Will Nathan and Hope live on Utopia with the X-Men, or independently?

Hope told Cable she wants to join the X-Men in the present, so that's the goal. But making it to Utopia is another story.

3) Any more interactions between Cable and X-Force planned? I loved their interaction during "Messiah War," and it seems like Hope wants to join X-Force more than she wants to join X-Men…

If you're reading the current arc, "Homecoming," you'll see that Hope really just wants some semblance of a "normal" life. She's heard all of these things about who she's supposed to be, she had a very fleeting encounter with X-Force…and now that she's a little older, she realizes she's tired of eating fried rat on a dying Earth.

Like most teenagers, she's struggling with the questions of "Who am I?" and "What am I supposed to be doing?" So it's not specifically X-Force she longs to join (though I suspect she digs their costumes and ethos), but the X-Men, who she thinks will help her answer those questions.

4) Any clue what Hope's powers are? I'm guessing probably telekinesis and telepathy like Stryfe assumed, but that doesn't really explain how she healed Rogue in "Messiah CompleX" – unless a certain fiery bird is involved. Am I getting warm?

You saw a glimmer of Hope's power in "Cable" #21. She stopped a bullet cold. She dished back what Bishop served. But is that telekinesis…or something else entirely?

Maybe Hope's power lies in her hair…at least, that's what Maroutz is thinking:

I've really enjoyed "Cable," but the whole "is Hope actually Jean Grey" debate frustrates the hell outta me. If she's not supposed to look like Jean, then the artists are falling down on the job. If she is supposed to look like her, then why all the secrecy and denials when it all appears obvious to readers? Even her powers now seem to mimic Jean's. Please tell me all will be revealed in "X-Men: Second Coming," or I'm gonna get feistier than a feisty redhead…


I'm married to a feisty redhead, so I know firsthand how feisty redheads can get, and sometimes, that's an unbearable level of feistiness. (Say that three times fast.) But you'll learn more in "Second Coming." I mean, the title alone kind of tips you off, if you think about it…

While the readers ponder that nugget of knowledge, it's now my turn to ask this week's "get-to-know-you" question. Ready to go "Behind the X?"

My wife and I were trying to think of some holiday cocktails to make for a party, but all we could come up with is hot buttered rum. Do you have any holiday cocktails you enjoy? Care to share the recipe?


My cocktail of choice at the holidays is a big tumbler of good scotch with ice. You adjust the scotch-to-ice ratio by the number of relatives who show up.

But for a proper holiday-ish cocktail, I make these chocolate-peppermint martini things for my wife – it's basically Stirrings Chocolate Peppermintini mixer shaken with vodka – again, the amount of vodka is proportional to the number of relatives at hand. Add some chocolate rimmer to the glass (wow, never though I'd type those words in a "Cable" interview) and pour.

Look at that – not only do we get you answers directly from your favorite X-writers at X-POSITION, but we provide you with lively libations! What can I say? We put the "X" in "X-mas."

And speaking of the holidays, we're giving the X-office a break next week. So while we'll have lots of year-end merriment here at CBR, X-POSITION won't be back till the New Year. That said, we'll be kicking off 2010 in a big way with two big X-POSITION X-travaganzas!

First, we in the X-POSITION office thought it might be fun to take a look back at 2009 with a "Top Ten" list of our very own. We want you, our wise and talented readers, to send in your top moments in the X-Universe for this past year – things that made you proud to be a follower of Marvel's merry mutants!

You can send in one moment or twenty – just type them up along with the reasons you thought they were great, put "2009 Top Ten" in the subject line, and send them to me as soon as you can. Based on the number of times these moments come up and your explanations, I'll compile a list for all X-POSITION-ites to share and enjoy!

Part two of the aforementioned "fun" will be our regularly-scheduled Q&A, but we'll be starting off 2010 in a big way as our guests are none other than the writers of "X-Force" (as well as "X-Men: Necrosha" and "X-Men: Second Coming"), Craig Kyle and Chris Yost. So drink that "Peppermintini," type up some queries for the fellas, and shoot me an email just as soon as you can (put "X-POSITION" in the subject line for this one).

That's two assignments in two weeks – are you fan enough? I'd wager that you are. Happy holidays, and we'll be seeing you in the new decade…


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COVER BY: Marko Djurdjevic
WRITER: Duane Swierczynski
PENCILS: Gabriel Guzman
INKS: Array
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PRELUDE TO “X-MEN: SECOND COMING” EVENT! The penultimate chapter in the X-Men saga that began with “Messiah CompleX” continues here! Now that Hope’s told Cable that she’s ready to join the X-Men in the present, Cable risks it all to repair his busted time machine. Finally, after years of being stuck in a one-way trip to oblivion, Cable and Hope leap into the past. But the Mutant Messiah and her surrogate father miss the mark by more than a few hundred years, finding themselves in a primitive Manhattan – and hunted by a mutant who just doesn’t know the meaning of the word “quit.” Rated T …$2.99

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CABLE #22


STORY BY Duane Swierczynski
ART BY Gabriel Guzman
COVER BY Marko Djurdjevic
PUBLISHER: Marvel Comics
COVER PRICE: $2.99
RELEASE DATE: January 6th, 2010

PRELUDE TO “X-MEN: SECOND COMING” EVENT! The penultimate chapter in the X-Men saga that began with “Messiah CompleX” continues here! Now that Hope’s told Cable that she’s ready to join the X-Men in the present, Cable risks it all to repair his busted time machine. Finally, after years of being stuck in a one-way trip to oblivion, Cable and Hope leap into the past. But the Mutant Messiah and her surrogate father miss the mark by more than a few hundred years, finding themselves in a primitive Manhattan – and hunted by a mutant who just doesn’t know the meaning of the word “quit.”
 
I'm assuming that because Cable took the time-leaper from Bishop's arm, it's still calibrated to Bishop's DNA and is jumping him along with them.

Is anyone else assuming this to be the case?
 
Well, as I implied earlier, it's my assumption that Duane has been stuck in a sort of limbo by the editors - as in: you can't off Hope or Cable or (probably) Bishop, but we're not ready at all to finish this storyline until next year or the year after, so you need to keep stories coming. It's extreme hand-tying, but unfortunately, that's sometimes the case with shared-world stuff. Look at R.A. Salvatore (the guy famous for the Drizzt Forgotten Realms novels), and how he couldn't even fully finish the Artemis Entreri character story in one of his last trilogies, all because the next campaign setting was coming out and Wizards of the Coast wanted him back in Calimshan. Salvatore had to account for that in the book's ending.

Cable began as a sound book. I'm not sure Olivetti was the best art pairing, but I got used to it. Then it revved up, and then... You know, I was even fine with the cockroaches, and I was fine with how Bishop was affecting the future to snuff them out, and I was fine with Messiah War. Then this crap with Emil and space-sharks and everything else started. The worst part is that it hasn't been more than five issues, at most, and yet they feel like a bogged-down eternity.

Duane should have done a better job. I don't understand how he thought that was a good story.
 
And what gets me is Duane's a novel writer, and what he did is a giant-freaking-booboo in novel writing. You can't introduce a random character's perspective when we really have no idea who that character was, especially when the story has so far been told by a very specific cast.

Why? Because it's jarring and makes for bad storytelling.

Point. In. Case. Thank you, Duane.
 
It's new year!

Bishop, make a new wish and forget about Hope.
 
Well, as I implied earlier, it's my assumption that Duane has been stuck in a sort of limbo by the editors - as in: you can't off Hope or Cable or (probably) Bishop, but we're not ready at all to finish this storyline until next year or the year after, so you need to keep stories coming. It's extreme hand-tying, but unfortunately, that's sometimes the case with shared-world stuff. Look at R.A. Salvatore (the guy famous for the Drizzt Forgotten Realms novels), and how he couldn't even fully finish the Artemis Entreri character story in one of his last trilogies, all because the next campaign setting was coming out and Wizards of the Coast wanted him back in Calimshan. Salvatore had to account for that in the book's ending.

Cable began as a sound book. I'm not sure Olivetti was the best art pairing, but I got used to it. Then it revved up, and then... You know, I was even fine with the cockroaches, and I was fine with how Bishop was affecting the future to snuff them out, and I was fine with Messiah War. Then this crap with Emil and space-sharks and everything else started. The worst part is that it hasn't been more than five issues, at most, and yet they feel like a bogged-down eternity.

Duane should have done a better job. I don't understand how he thought that was a good story.

Yeah, you pretty much got it. The book had a lot of build up leading up to the second part of the trilogy, then Messiah War came and gone and... the book went back to more of the same, but told from someone we've never met before. I think people were expecting more about someone we've been told to expect so much from, but it just turned into more of the same.
 
Loved the book in the beginning but after Messiah War it did feel like filler until Second Coming. Im about ready for Bishop to die already. I have a feeling that either he or both he and Cable are going to bite the dust soon
 
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