Deadpool & Wolverine Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Thread

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For those, who want to discuss spoilers about the 2024 MCU film in a spoiler-filled thread.

 

[Venom 1988]

Deadpool & Wolverine: 30 Spoiler-Filled Details From the First 35 Minutes - IGN

Figured I'd post this here, since it's nothing but spoilers so in case anyone is interested. I'm actually suprised Marvel is actually ok with letting outlets spoil the preview event but Im guessing it's to build hype. I'll also post the article here in the thread as well. I know it's a Spoiler thread but I'm only tagging this, cause it's a lot of information, so I don't want to clog up the whole screen lol.

Spoiler

The TVA’s Timeline-Ending Plan​

• Deadpool & Wolverine brings characters from the 20th Century Fox Marvel films into the MCU for the first time. Don’t know about the Disney buyout of Fox? Don’t worry, Deadpool explains it all in the film’s opening monologue.
• Deadpool’s arrival in the MCU isn’t just a movie-length joke, though. It’s all explained in-universe, and if you’re up to date on the Loki show, then you’ll likely already know that the Time Variance Authority (TVA) is the organisation responsible for observing and safeguarding the various strands of the multiverse. It’s via the TVA that Deadpool arrives in the MCU.
• Deadpool is summoned to the TVA by Mr. Paradox, played by Succession’s Matthew Macfadyen. Paradox offers Deadpool a chance to live in the Sacred Timeline (Earth 616, the ‘main’ MCU universe) and be among heroes like Captain America and Thor, a hugely attractive opportunity for the merc with a mouth.
• Paradox’s current project is to oversee the end of Deadpool’s timeline, which is withering and dying because it has lost its ‘anchor’ (more on that later). The death of a timeline can take up to thousands of years, though, and Paradox hopes to speed that process up. He has developed the ‘Time Ripper’, a machine that can “mercy kill” timelines.
• By offering a quick death to Deadpool’s original timeline, Paradox hopes to prove himself a gold-tier efficient member of the TVA and rise to become its leader.

Red Deadpool Redemption​

• An early scene sees Deadpool use Cable’s time travel watch (remember that gizmo from Deadpool 2?) to travel back to circa 2018 and visit the Avengers Campus. He asks to join the team, an act he hopes will make him a “someone” and impress his estranged girlfriend Vanessa. His request is declined because becoming an Avenger is about public service rather than personal gain.
• In the present day, Wade Wilson has given up the Deadpool persona and now works as a car salesman alongside Rob Delaney’s Peter.
• At a surprise birthday party, Wilson is joined by his cab driver Dopinder, landlady Blind Al, Colossus, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Yukio, and Buck. Vanessa is also there, and reveals she has a new boyfriend called Dermot (he likes hiking).

The Death of the Fox Universe?​

• The Fox Universe, officially designated as Earth-10005 in the film, is fading away because its anchor has died. An anchor is a person of vital importance to a timeline, and when Wolverine died in 2017’s Logan it triggered the beginning of the end for the timeline.
• Deadpool is from that very timeline, confirming that Logan and Deadpool are part of the same universe. Earth-10005 is the official designation of the “Original X-Men Cinematic Universe”, so it sure seems like almost everything Fox is fading away.
• While Deadpool is thrilled to be invited to be part of the MCU’s Sacred Timeline (he happily accepts a new suit from the TVA’s tailor), he’s reluctant to allow his loved ones to fade into nothingness. It would mean the death of Vanessa, his one true love, as well as his friends. And so Deadpool comes up with a plan: find a replacement Wolverine and save his timeline.

Wolverine, Wolverine, Wolverines​

• Using stolen TVA timeline-hopping technology, Deadpool searches across the multiverse for a Wolverine.
• His first stop is Wolverine’s final resting place from the end of 2017’s Logan. Deadpool’s convinced Wolverine didn’t die because that’s not what happens when you have regenerative healing powers, but he’s proved wrong when he finds nothing but an adamantium skeleton and some rotted flesh. His theory proven wrong, he visits a number of other timelines and discovers:
• A Wolverine of comic-accurate height (5 foot 3 inches). As with all the variants, he’s still played by Hugh Jackman, but he’s been shrunk down using CGI to hilarious effect.
• Patch, Wolverine’s gambler alter-ego who wears a white tux with an eyepatch. (Sorry guys, he's not played by Daniel Radcliffe, despite fan rumors.)
• A miserable, old, grey-haired Wolverine wearing a hat and sitting out on a porch. He’s pretty similar to the Clint Eastwood-like depiction of the character in Mark Millar's celebrated Old Man Logan comic.

• A Wolverine being crucified on a giant X. This is a reference to a Chris Claremont story from 1989 where Logan is tortured by anti-mutant cyborgs in Australia.
• A Wolverine in his original brown and tan costume, literally about to fight the Hulk as he did in his first-ever comic appearance in The Incredible Hulk #181.
• A Wolverine sporting incredible glam rock-like hair and a black wrestler-style costume, which reminded me a lot of X-Men’s ‘90s-style comic art.
• An utterly wasted Wolverine, drunk on whiskey, found in a bar. The scene is reminiscent of scenes from X-Men, X-Men First Class, and the trailer for Insomniac’s PS5 game. When Deadpool discovers this variant wears the classic yellow-and-blue costume underneath his civilian clothes, he decides this is the Wolverine to bring back to the TVA.
• Unfortunately for Deadpool, Paradox reveals that this Wolverine is an unworthy replacement for the Logan who sacrificed himself in the Fox timeline. Instead, this Wolverine is a failure who let down his entire timeline and turned to booze to drown his sorrows.

An MCU in Crisis and Other Jokes​

• When introducing drunk Wolverine to the new timeline, Deadpool says “Welcome to the MCU, you’re joining at a bit of a low point.” It’s a great gag that directly addresses the ongoing fan conversation about the quality of Marvel movies post-Avengers Endgame.
• In a new trailer that followed the preview, Deadpool also makes a joke about how things have been “miss after miss” since the multiverse stuff kicked off. In response, a Deadpool variant says “I think it’s been steadily great since Endgame.” It seems like Deadpool & Wolverine will definitely make several jokes about the perceived quality of the MCU as a whole.
• If you thought that the first Disney-led Deadpool project would be toned down, then have no fear: when the TVA first turn up to capture Deadpool and bring him to Mr. Paradox, they interrupt his birthday party. Deadpool mistakes the uniform-clad TVA squad for strippers and makes an incredibly non-PG pegging joke about their stun batons.
• When first being introduced to the Sacred Timeline, Deadpool is shown clips from previous MCU films to showcase the heroes he’ll be working alongside. One of these clips is taken from Thor: The Dark World, but manipulated to show Thor crying over the mangled body of Deadpool. The merc is, understandably, quite confused.

Gleeful Violence​

• After Deadpool discovers Logan’s remains, a TVA squad turns up to arrest him and bring him back to Paradox. Refusing to submit, Deadpool massacres the entire team using Wolverine’s adamantium skeleton as weapons (his leg is wielded like nunchucks at one point, and his ribs used as throwing knives.) This whole fight is choreographed to "Bye Bye Bye" by NSYNC.
• After realising that Deadpool is going to be a hindrance to his work in ending the Fox timeline, Paradox sends both Deadpool and Wolverine to the “trash heap,” a Mad Max-like desert full of waste, including a giant 20th Century Fox logo. Angered by being pulled into this crazy situation, Wolverine pops his claws and prepares to fight a bloody battle. This was, of course, the final scene of the preview footage. We’ll need to watch the full film to see how that battle goes (although the shots from the trailer certainly suggest a very bloody, very funny fight.)

Cameos and Easter Eggs​

• During Deadpool’s trip to Avengers Campus he meets with Happy Hogan, played once again by Jon Favreau.
• In the new trailer screened to press, a version of the Juggernaut could be spotted. He’s wearing a costume very similar to the one used in X-Men: The Last Stand, but it seems a little smaller. I couldn’t tell if it was Vinnie Jones in the suit, but the actor has previously said he’s not in the film.
• The same trailer showcases an army of Deadpool variants, including Lady Deadpool, the canine Dogpool, a floating skull in a Deadpool mask (perhaps a reference to Marvel Zombies?) and a version that’s just Ryan Reynolds without the scarring, very long hair, and a costume made of shiny red plastic.

 

[Herolee10]

Deadpool & Wolverine: 30 Spoiler-Filled Details From the First 35 Minutes - IGN

Figured I'd post this here, since it's nothing but spoilers so in case anyone is interested. I'm actually suprised Marvel is actually ok with letting outlets spoil the preview event but Im guessing it's to build hype. I'll also post the article here in the thread as well. I know it's a Spoiler thread but I'm only tagging this, cause it's a lot of information, so I don't want to clog up the whole screen lol.

Spoiler

The TVA’s Timeline-Ending Plan​

• Deadpool & Wolverine brings characters from the 20th Century Fox Marvel films into the MCU for the first time. Don’t know about the Disney buyout of Fox? Don’t worry, Deadpool explains it all in the film’s opening monologue.
• Deadpool’s arrival in the MCU isn’t just a movie-length joke, though. It’s all explained in-universe, and if you’re up to date on the Loki show, then you’ll likely already know that the Time Variance Authority (TVA) is the organisation responsible for observing and safeguarding the various strands of the multiverse. It’s via the TVA that Deadpool arrives in the MCU.
• Deadpool is summoned to the TVA by Mr. Paradox, played by Succession’s Matthew Macfadyen. Paradox offers Deadpool a chance to live in the Sacred Timeline (Earth 616, the ‘main’ MCU universe) and be among heroes like Captain America and Thor, a hugely attractive opportunity for the merc with a mouth.
• Paradox’s current project is to oversee the end of Deadpool’s timeline, which is withering and dying because it has lost its ‘anchor’ (more on that later). The death of a timeline can take up to thousands of years, though, and Paradox hopes to speed that process up. He has developed the ‘Time Ripper’, a machine that can “mercy kill” timelines.
• By offering a quick death to Deadpool’s original timeline, Paradox hopes to prove himself a gold-tier efficient member of the TVA and rise to become its leader.

Red Deadpool Redemption​

• An early scene sees Deadpool use Cable’s time travel watch (remember that gizmo from Deadpool 2?) to travel back to circa 2018 and visit the Avengers Campus. He asks to join the team, an act he hopes will make him a “someone” and impress his estranged girlfriend Vanessa. His request is declined because becoming an Avenger is about public service rather than personal gain.
• In the present day, Wade Wilson has given up the Deadpool persona and now works as a car salesman alongside Rob Delaney’s Peter.
• At a surprise birthday party, Wilson is joined by his cab driver Dopinder, landlady Blind Al, Colossus, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Yukio, and Buck. Vanessa is also there, and reveals she has a new boyfriend called Dermot (he likes hiking).

The Death of the Fox Universe?​

• The Fox Universe, officially designated as Earth-10005 in the film, is fading away because its anchor has died. An anchor is a person of vital importance to a timeline, and when Wolverine died in 2017’s Logan it triggered the beginning of the end for the timeline.
• Deadpool is from that very timeline, confirming that Logan and Deadpool are part of the same universe. Earth-10005 is the official designation of the “Original X-Men Cinematic Universe”, so it sure seems like almost everything Fox is fading away.
• While Deadpool is thrilled to be invited to be part of the MCU’s Sacred Timeline (he happily accepts a new suit from the TVA’s tailor), he’s reluctant to allow his loved ones to fade into nothingness. It would mean the death of Vanessa, his one true love, as well as his friends. And so Deadpool comes up with a plan: find a replacement Wolverine and save his timeline.

Wolverine, Wolverine, Wolverines​

• Using stolen TVA timeline-hopping technology, Deadpool searches across the multiverse for a Wolverine.
• His first stop is Wolverine’s final resting place from the end of 2017’s Logan. Deadpool’s convinced Wolverine didn’t die because that’s not what happens when you have regenerative healing powers, but he’s proved wrong when he finds nothing but an adamantium skeleton and some rotted flesh. His theory proven wrong, he visits a number of other timelines and discovers:
• A Wolverine of comic-accurate height (5 foot 3 inches). As with all the variants, he’s still played by Hugh Jackman, but he’s been shrunk down using CGI to hilarious effect.
• Patch, Wolverine’s gambler alter-ego who wears a white tux with an eyepatch. (Sorry guys, he's not played by Daniel Radcliffe, despite fan rumors.)
• A miserable, old, grey-haired Wolverine wearing a hat and sitting out on a porch. He’s pretty similar to the Clint Eastwood-like depiction of the character in Mark Millar's celebrated Old Man Logan comic.
• A Wolverine being crucified on a giant X. This is a reference to a Chris Claremont story from 1989 where Logan is tortured by anti-mutant cyborgs in Australia.
• A Wolverine in his original brown and tan costume, literally about to fight the Hulk as he did in his first-ever comic appearance in The Incredible Hulk #181.
• A Wolverine sporting incredible glam rock-like hair and a black wrestler-style costume, which reminded me a lot of X-Men’s ‘90s-style comic art.
• An utterly wasted Wolverine, drunk on whiskey, found in a bar. The scene is reminiscent of scenes from X-Men, X-Men First Class, and the trailer for Insomniac’s PS5 game. When Deadpool discovers this variant wears the classic yellow-and-blue costume underneath his civilian clothes, he decides this is the Wolverine to bring back to the TVA.
• Unfortunately for Deadpool, Paradox reveals that this Wolverine is an unworthy replacement for the Logan who sacrificed himself in the Fox timeline. Instead, this Wolverine is a failure who let down his entire timeline and turned to booze to drown his sorrows.

An MCU in Crisis and Other Jokes​

• When introducing drunk Wolverine to the new timeline, Deadpool says “Welcome to the MCU, you’re joining at a bit of a low point.” It’s a great gag that directly addresses the ongoing fan conversation about the quality of Marvel movies post-Avengers Endgame.
• In a new trailer that followed the preview, Deadpool also makes a joke about how things have been “miss after miss” since the multiverse stuff kicked off. In response, a Deadpool variant says “I think it’s been steadily great since Endgame.” It seems like Deadpool & Wolverine will definitely make several jokes about the perceived quality of the MCU as a whole.
• If you thought that the first Disney-led Deadpool project would be toned down, then have no fear: when the TVA first turn up to capture Deadpool and bring him to Mr. Paradox, they interrupt his birthday party. Deadpool mistakes the uniform-clad TVA squad for strippers and makes an incredibly non-PG pegging joke about their stun batons.
• When first being introduced to the Sacred Timeline, Deadpool is shown clips from previous MCU films to showcase the heroes he’ll be working alongside. One of these clips is taken from Thor: The Dark World, but manipulated to show Thor crying over the mangled body of Deadpool. The merc is, understandably, quite confused.

Gleeful Violence​

• After Deadpool discovers Logan’s remains, a TVA squad turns up to arrest him and bring him back to Paradox. Refusing to submit, Deadpool massacres the entire team using Wolverine’s adamantium skeleton as weapons (his leg is wielded like nunchucks at one point, and his ribs used as throwing knives.) This whole fight is choreographed to "Bye Bye Bye" by NSYNC.
• After realising that Deadpool is going to be a hindrance to his work in ending the Fox timeline, Paradox sends both Deadpool and Wolverine to the “trash heap,” a Mad Max-like desert full of waste, including a giant 20th Century Fox logo. Angered by being pulled into this crazy situation, Wolverine pops his claws and prepares to fight a bloody battle. This was, of course, the final scene of the preview footage. We’ll need to watch the full film to see how that battle goes (although the shots from the trailer certainly suggest a very bloody, very funny fight.)

Cameos and Easter Eggs​

• During Deadpool’s trip to Avengers Campus he meets with Happy Hogan, played once again by Jon Favreau.
• In the new trailer screened to press, a version of the Juggernaut could be spotted. He’s wearing a costume very similar to the one used in X-Men: The Last Stand, but it seems a little smaller. I couldn’t tell if it was Vinnie Jones in the suit, but the actor has previously said he’s not in the film.
• The same trailer showcases an army of Deadpool variants, including Lady Deadpool, the canine Dogpool, a floating skull in a Deadpool mask (perhaps a reference to Marvel Zombies?) and a version that’s just Ryan Reynolds without the scarring, very long hair, and a costume made of shiny red plastic.

Judging by that description, I feel like Marvel Studios has no one in charge of maintaining any continuity between their franchises.

Spoiler

There's no way they can convince me that Deadpool and Logan take place within the same canon. Didn't Logan establish that most of the X-Men were accidentally killed by Professor X, causing the group to disband? Furthermore, I recall the film establishing that no mutants were born within the past 20 years of the film's events.

Another issue is the whole anchor concept where a timeline can perish after someone important dies. What's even the criteria for determining such a person? And why would an entire timeline perish after a single person dies?

Also, didn't Mobius and Hunter B-15 reform the TVA after Loki Season 2? Judging by Mr. Pardox's actions, that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[Venom 1988]

Judging by that description, I feel like Marvel Studios has no one in charge of maintaining any continuity between their franchises.

Spoiler

There's no way they can convince me that Deadpool and Logan take place within the same canon. Didn't Logan establish that most of the X-Men were accidentally killed by Professor X, causing the group to disband? Furthermore, I recall the film establishing that no mutants were born within the past 20 years of the film's events.

Another issue is the whole anchor concept where a timeline can perish after someone important dies. What's even the criteria for determining such a person? And why would an entire timeline perish after a single person dies?

Also, didn't Mobius and Hunter B-15 reform the TVA after Loki Season 2? Judging by Mr. Pardox's actions, that doesn't seem to be the case.

My understanding for years was that the Deadpool movies take place in the same universe as Logan but years earlier. Deadpool 1 and 2 are in 2016 and 2018 while Logan is 2029. So if Paradox is grabbing Deadpool from prior to that movie, then I don't really see any issues.

The anchor thing is a bit odd but it's not unheard of. The comics dealt with similar concept with The Molecular Man. If he were to die, the whole universe would die with him. Though in the article, it explains that the universe doesn't end immediately, it takes thousands of years. So in a way it could just simply be viewed as a Butterfly effect. Him dying set's the course of a hundred other things that eventually lead to the universe ending. But ultimately this is just a Meta-commentary since Logan was the last good Fox movie. So I wouldn't think too much into it.

As far as the TVA is concerned, yes they were reformed but they are also a huge organization. Prior to season 2, they were a monolith in their thinking with HWR running everything. Now they have free will and with that different people have different mindsets on how they think how things could be run more efficiently.

So just from the info in the article, I don't see anything out of place but maybe my thoughts will change after seeing the movie.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

So there is Wolverine from foxverse.
Then Deadpool will meet 7 wolverine variants made in MCU
Yellow wolverine is the 7th

But damn i cant see foxverse being part of MCU MULTIVERSE like Raimi Webb and Venomverse!

838, Freshman years and Beast/Binary are close to 616 OK but foxverse is so mayhem

 

[blueharvest]

 

[BobJM]

Lol that's probably an overreaction. I'm sure it'll be exciting to see in action, but let's get outside and touch grass.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Lol that's probably an overreaction. I'm sure it'll be exciting to see in action, but let's get outside and touch grass.

Or lay on it.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

I wanted them to keep yellow suit and mask for Wolverine 616!!

When DP goes to Avengers campus and meet Happy its earth616 or another reality?

 

[BoredGuy]

Lol that's probably an overreaction. I'm sure it'll be exciting to see in action, but let's get outside and touch grass.

Well, we've seen it in bts photos, followed by a clearer set photo, followed by a trailer so we got kind of eased into it

Might be different if you were a big comics fan working on this production (possibly for months) and then suddenly saw Jackman step on set in the costume right in front of you

Granted, weeping is a bit much, and probably an exaggeration, but getting emotional about it is understandable

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Well, can't post the new final trailer due to language, but, even though I can't see this opening weekend due to work, I sort of wish they hadn't spoiled what they showed in the trailer. If you saw it, you know what I'm talking about. It'll get people even more pumped, and it's nice, but...guys, your movie is out in a few days. You can wait!

 

[Chip Chipperson]

This is gonna be Endgame for everyone who cared about marvel movies pre 2012, and I couldn’t be more here for it

I am so ready

 

[The Caped Knight]

Spoiler

I knew she was going to be in this. Called it way back in the beginning. Glad to see X-23 back.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Spoiler

I knew she was going to be in this. Called it way back in the beginning. Glad to see X-23 back.

There's so much hype to this movie already, I feel like a third trailer was unnecessary. Kinda wish they would've saved some of this for a surprise.

 

[Karelia]

This is gonna be Endgame for everyone who cared about marvel movies pre 2012, and I couldn’t be more here for it

I am so ready

I feel this is 100% correct. I grew up with the og stuff, so I'm just feeling this hype a lot. I'll be there Friday morning. I can't wait! I haven't been to the theaters since I think Aquaman 2.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yeah, I regret watching it for that appearance being spoiled at the end.

If they weren't convinced by now, that wasn't going to change their mind.

 

[Arachnerd]

Was honestly kind of expecting that appearance considering the multiverse element and Logan talking to someone off-screen in a previous trailer and calling them a "kid".

That being said,

Spoiler

seeing Dafne Keen again and the line she tells this Logan variant got me in the feels. I'm really appreciating the emotional core this movie seems to have and if anything, I'm glad it was highlighted in this trailer.

 

[BobJM]

This is gonna be Endgame for everyone who cared about marvel movies pre 2012, and I couldn’t be more here for it

I am so ready

I hope so, because these trailers are getting a little lackluster IMO. Fair enough that we want to avoid spoilers, but surely there had to be something else they could have shown/teased besides the same scenes we've been seeing over and over since the Super Bowl.

Even with the spoiler reveal in the latest trailer, it feels...hollow? Really hoping that you're right and this more Endgame than it is No Way Home.

 

[Breogan]

There it is!
Now give us that Laura (Dafne Keen Fernández) X-23 spin-off.

Deadpool 3: Dafne Keen Was Reportedly in Talks to Reprise X-23 Role Before Strikes

Mangold and Craig Kyle were working on it, till the Disney buy out.
Now that the parallel universe officially exists x'd-over, they can continue it.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The X23 actress was pulling a Andrew Garfield and saying she wasn't in it, only to have it revealed in the final trailer a week before release. That's kind of funny.

 

[CB Fan]

Was trying to avoid spoilers from trailers and yet reel rejects and John campea just have to make them known in their damn thumbnails and video titles. They are getting to be as bad as Grace Randolph.

 

[CK Spider]

I really don't care about spoilers (in fact, I seek them), so for me that was a fantastic trailer with the confirmation of one of my favorite characters.

 

[Breogan]

Besides Lady DP and Cowboy DP who we see the spurs, and hat in this shot. How many DPs are coming to the rescue in this shot?

 

[Another_Fool]

Spoiler

Absolutely don't understand why they spoiled Dafne Keen when this movie is set to make truckloads of money. But man she looks fantastic as a grown up Laura. She has to be in the MCU after this.

 

[blueharvest]