Days of Future Past "Director's Cut": The Official Matthew Vaughn Thread

[Mako]

Yeah, I'm thinking that SFX/VFX quality is based primarily on money and not time, but, you definitely need a good combination of both.

Tell that to those poor renderfarms and while i'm excited for another x-men film , this does seem a little rushed.

 

[BMM]

Yeah, I'm thinking that SFX/VFX quality is based primarily on money and not time, but, you definitely need a good combination of both.

Yes, it's both... and the shorter the amount of time companies have to complete the effects, the more costly the effects are going to be.

 

[Snikt]

So...what does this hold for X4? Anyone think Donner was serious when she offered X4 to Singer and he asked her just to wait so he could direct it?

 

[LEX]

As far as we know, there already is a script written and being polished by capable hands that aren't attached to either Penn or Kinberg; Singer is helping things along, unlike with the last two X-films; and Vaughn has proven himself more than capable several times. The release date of just over a year away is at once happy and dismaying news, but also not a death sentence. All I know is, we have as good odds as any.

Now, I hope Vaughn's locked in nice and tight this time, lest he scurry away at the last minute yet again. Use chains if necessary.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Great news.A good director to work with bryan Singer.From what has been'said before the plan seems to be to try to do what was done with Star Trek but more In conitunity with the films.If Wolverine shows up this would
almost certainly be a cameo.The expandables Is using cameos by Schwanneger and Bruce Willis to help sell the film.It may be a similar situation here.And could help set up Wolverine In japan for Wolverine II.
And remember Inless they are prepared to use CGI technology for Patrick Stewart for the whole movie a cameo by Hugh jackman might be the only
actor from previous films In this.

Inless there Is a proluge of Xavier and magneto meeting most of the film will take place around the time of Wolverine.The talk of greatest threat the world
has ever known makes me wonder could Apocalypse be the villian SInger has
mentioned.

This Is the most exciting time for X-Men films since It was announced Singer wasn't direcitng the third film.While I would prefer him directing.His hands on producing and getting Vaughn who did a great job with Stardust(haven't seen Kick-Ass) and having the most recent writers of Thor rewriting are all good news.I for one have no Intrest In a reboot till marvel gets back the rights(This Is my place towards all Studios having rights like Fox with Fantastic Four and Sony with Spider-man) and this Is the better alternate to another
crappy move by Fox.I have heard reports Vaughn partly left Last Stand due to not being happy with the script Fox wanted to go with(of course the schedule and having been viewed as just going to shoot the film Fox wanted also factors) and the fact he came back Into commiting to First Class suggests a whole different situation this time.

 

[Chewy]

As far as we know, there already is a script written and being polished by capable hands that aren't attached to either Penn or Kinberg; Singer is helping things along, unlike with the last two X-films; and Vaughn has proven himself more than capable several times. The release date of just over a year away is at once happy and dismaying news, but also not a death sentence. All I know is, we have as good odds as any.

Even so, it takes more than 13 months to prepare, cast, shoot, create effects for, edit, re-shoot, re-edit, score, and finalize a big budget movie. At least, it should, if quality was the priority here.

 

[rashad]

One of the best decisions Fox has made in awhile. HOPEFULLY Wolverine 2 kicks ass and First Class rocks too. I'm sure we'd all like to see these X-films regain the quality they once had.

 

[TNC9852002]

Remember in 2003 when X-Men 2 came out and everyone thought it was like the best comic book movie ever? and then after Batman Begins, everyone forgot about it?

Well anyway, this might be interesting:

Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris were hired to re-write the script in February 2002, writing around 26 drafts and 150 on set.[7] Production began on June 17, 2002 in Vancouver and wrapped by November, with the release moved to May 1, 2003.

and on Batman Begins...

In January 2003, Warner Bros. hired Memento director Christopher Nolan to direct an untitled Batman film, and David S. Goyer signed on to write the script two months later.

..

Batman Begins commenced principal photography in March 2004. Over the course of 129 shooting days,...before wrapping in September.

..

The film opened on June 15, 2005 in the United States and Canada in 3,858 theaters.

..

Seems like Batman Begins had a huge amount of time, but X2 had just a little bit more of the same amount of time that First Class is going to have. Between X2 and BB, there's still not a huge gap in overall quality. I mean, sure, X2 is good, but Batman Begins is excellent. I guess my point is, if you have a good script and a good director, you'll expect to still push out a quality film--regardless of how much time you have. Whether or not that film becomes universally liked may have less to do with production time, but more to do with the story itself (i.e., Superman Returns).

After X3 and Wolverine, if First Class is anywhere near as good as X2, I'd say it'll be a huge step in the right direction.

 

[psyonic]

I don't know, I feel like we've been burned twice by Fox with X3 and Wolverine, my expectations for First Class is as low as the Earth's crusty core.

Quality was never Fox's priority since Singer left the franchise. I hope they're not tacking Singer's name as producer onto the film just to get old fans to watch First Class.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I read up quite a bit on the Disney takeover. And i'm sure i read somewhere that there is a clause in Disney's contract with Marvel that if they feel one of the other studio's ie Fox isn't treating their property with it's best interests in mind, they can break Fox's contract and get the properties back. Obviously it would have to go to court and all that to decide whether the property is or isn't being treated with it's best interests in mind.

So if that was true, then even if Fox keep making Marvel movies, if they do not do them the right way and that is proven (i'm sure rushing a film out in 13 months could maybe come under that...), Disney/Marvel can claim them back.

 

[Octoberist]

Seems like Batman Begins had a huge amount of time, but X2 had just a little bit more of the same amount of time that First Class is going to have. Between X2 and BB, there's still not a huge gap in overall quality. I mean, sure, X2 is good, but Batman Begins is excellent. I guess my point is, if you have a good script and a good director, you'll expect to still push out a quality film--regardless of how much time you have. Whether or not that film becomes universally liked may have less to do with production time, but more to do with the story itself (i.e., Superman Returns).

After X3 and Wolverine, if First Class is anywhere near as good as X2, I'd say it'll be a huge step in the right direction.

You know what? That was a good point about X2's schedule and good it turned out. I didn't realize the schedule it had.

I'm thinking that Vaughn needs to film at least by August for a decent production. August being the most realistic month because even if the script is done, you still have scouting, production design and construction, casting, getting the crew, etc. Unless they're doing it already.

 

[BMM]

People brought this up prior to the production of The Last Stand. The shooting schedule isn’t the problem, or at least it’s not what has me worried the most. The lack of pre-production is. X2 is leaps and bounds ahead of First Class in that department. Still, this movie has capable people behind it, so I’m hoping they’ll be able to pull it off. Even with the similarly short schedule, I feel more confident in this movie than I did with The Last Stand.

 

[Electrix]

AICN points out that Iron Man 2 had a similar schedule. Big films can be made in 13 months.

"Iron Man 2" began principal photography on April 6, 2009 and hit Peruvian cinemas on April 29, 2010. Also less than 13 months.

Ideally they'd have more time for pre-production, but I can be done, and done well.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughn seems like a very good combination. The only Vaughn film i've seen is Stardust, but i looooved it, so im excited to see what he'll do with X-men.

The concept still hasn't grabbed me yet... but hopefully it will in time.

The only worrying thing is the 1 year production, from start to finish... And people claimed Batman 3 was going to be a rush job!

Still im optimistic!!

 

[samsnee]

Great. Fox is going to rush out another shoddy sequel just so they don't lose the rights.

 

[TNC9852002]

Ideally they'd have more time for pre-production, but I can be done, and done well.

Let's face it. No matter who it is, fans will forever be ******** over any film FOX puts out and will put the blame on anything possible to support any shortcomings...

 

[X-Maniac]

It's possible.

Pre-production (casting, script reworks, locations) 4 months? (May-Aug),

Then filming for 3-4 months (Aug-Nov/Dec)

Then post-prod for the rest.

X3 filmed for 100 days (just over 3 months), longer than X2.

Not sure how much pre-prod there was on X2 but it did have a lot of sets to build (Magneto prison, Alkali Lake dam interiors).

I'd say X3 could have done with a bit more post-prod (we might have had a firebird then, and a few bits could have been tidied up - such as not having a a bee crawling on Hugh Jackman's coat, etc) but otherwise it was technically fine.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Yeah except for Wolverine, all of the X-Men movies were made in break-neck speed.

 

[JP]

Basically this film has the same production time as X1 and X2.

 

[mclay18]

I'm not worried about the release date, even though if Fox keeps the date, it'll end up being lost in the shuffle amidst Thor, POTC 4 and Green Lantern after that. Why won't Fox shift it to the fall or winter 2011 dates? It'll have less competition if it's received well by audiences.

And the other thing I'm worried about is whether Vaughn will have creative control to make the movie his way (and hopefully that's what Fox agreed to). We all saw how Gavin Hood did on Wolverine and how bad that was...

 

[OB12]

AICN points out that Iron Man 2 had a similar schedule. Big films can be made in 13 months.



Ideally they'd have more time for pre-production, but I can be done, and done well.

This is not really comparable though. If it were First Class would need to begin principal photography this week which is it definitely not doing, they will be lucky to get in front of cameras before August. The other thing IM2 had was most of the cast was already set. We are likely looking at a whole new cast, to include Xavier and Magneto.

 

[mclay18]

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I'm thinking that Vaughn needs to film at least by August for a decent production. August being the most realistic month because even if the script is done, you still have scouting, production design and construction, casting, getting the crew, etc. Unless they're doing it already.

Fox will probably want Vaughn to shoot First Class in Vancouver, just like the first three were. I've always wondered why Fox likes shooting many of their lower-budget films and big-budget tentpoles in Canada, do they get a really good tax incentive for doing it?

 

[Electrix]

Fox will probably want Vaughn to shoot First Class in Vancouver, just like the first three were. I've always wondered why Fox likes shooting many of their lower-budget films and big-budget tentpoles in Canada, do they get a really good tax incentive for doing it?

Tax incentives are a big factor. London seems to be popular nowadays. Captain America, Jack the Giant Killer and Pirates 4 are all shooting there. Batman 3 will most likely be shot in England again.

 

[mclay18]

Batman 3 will most likely be shot in England again.

I'm pretty positive that Nolan will see that it is shot in England and Chicago again.

I don't know if Vaughn will have creative control to shoot First Class where he wants, though.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I still have hope for this since Vaughn and Singer are involved.