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Discuss what you LIKED about X3

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Ok, this is mainly for the "lovers" of X3 (as so many people seem to put it :whatever:), to discuss what they LIKED about the film, its story, characters etc.

Now, if any "bashers" of the film wish to contribute, I'm not stopping you. It's a free country, after all, all opinions are appreciated. :word:

But please, no massive debate or pointless babbling about minor points. This is about what you LIKED about the film, remember. So try and keep it positive.
 
I liked Kelsey Grammer as Beast, Original X-Men all finally in a movie, and Multiple Man
 
Yep, IMO, Kelsey Grammer did a fantastic job with Beast. I don't know anybody else who could have done a better job.
 
Thank you for this thread, TKing.

What did I like about this film? Lots of stuff.

This film excelled in many things that Singer's films didn't. Mainly, the action, and reminding me that these are superheros. I love Singer's grounded, realistic version, but this film also showed that you can keep that realistic, grounded version and still have some fun with it.

I enjoy the final battle. The X-Men jumping into battle, theme music blaring, lining up across the battlefield from the Brotherhood, with Magneto and his Brotherhood raised above, looking over the battle field, claiming the X-Men are "traitors to their own cause" takes me back to the cartoons and comics in a way that X-Men and X2 never did. For the first time in this trilogy, we actually got a battle.

The way Beast was portrayed was absolutley spot on, from the writing, to the acting of Kelsey Grammer. Everything that I love about Beast (and he's my favorite member of the X-Men behind only Gambit) was captured in this film. The fact that they turned him into an original member of the X-Men was a brilliant touch, even if minor. I absolutley loved his little interaction with Wolverine in the final battle, about being a diplomat, and there coming a time when all men must... YOU GET THE POINT! Straight from the comics!

Magneto I felt was absolutley brilliant. Everything that was established in X-Men and X2, his feelings towards how humans treat those not born into power, and that the humans will only try to eliminate the mutants as the Germans once tried to eliminate the Jews, something he experienced first hand, became justified with the creation of the cure. The war had begun in X2, and he has been fighting it from the end of X2 up until this point, with all of his terrorist attacks across the globe. Now with this cure, that's the final straw, and he's going to take this war to the human's doorstep, his first move to destroy the cure at Alcatraz Island.

We see things in this film that we have fans have been waiting for; Danger Room, Sentinel (albiet just a head, but a Sentinel none the less), Angel (though not as developed as he should have been, he was still a nice addition), Iceman finally icing up, Fastball Special.

The little elements, like Magneto's terrorist threats over the TV, that are straight from the comics and give the characters just that much more.

We had the Phoenix, although not how we expected it, I still think was well done for the most part.

The story was more epic. We finally had the war that had been building since X-Men, and we had the epic personal struggle of the Phoenix. The final scene of Wolverine marching up to stop the Phoenix is one of the most powerful sequences in the entire trilogy as far as I'm concerned. And a little fanboy touch, I love how his adamantium skeleton was exposed during that sequence. First time I saw it, for a second, I thought he'd be JUST a skeleton by the end. But actually seeing his adamantium skeleton was a very nice touch.

There was just so much good about this movie that outweighs the bad. I do admit there is bad, and some of the bad is the worst of the trilogy. But there is so much good as well, that it just outweighs all the bad. The storyline is the best of the 3, with the cure and the Phoenix Saga. The movie feels like something I could actually read in a comic, or get out of X-Men Legends, more so than X-Men and X2. Scenes like the psi battle between Xavier and Phoenix, and the sequence of Wolverine marching up towards Jean to stop the Phoenix on Alcatraz, are more epic than anything in the trilogy... the only thing that could compare would be Jean's sacrifice at the end of X2.

As somebody who was against Kitty Pryde getting a bigger role in this film over adding a character such as Gambit, I was pleasantly surprised with how they handled her role. Juggernaut, though not used enough, was excellent, and spot on. Bringing in the Morlocks, since they are never referred to as the Omega Muties, I consider them the Morlocks, was a nice touch.

Thank you for making this thread, TKing, and hopefully it will stay active, and not get hijacked, because there is plenty of good in this film that is definatley worth talking about, and definatley worth praise.
 
Yep, I totally agree. I just felt that with all the bad criticism against this film, there should be a place where people can speak up and point out all the good points about X3.

First of, I love the redesigns of some of the characters, especially Juggernaut and Callisto. I thought Juggernaut brought a sense of comedy (albeit rather cheesy at some times) back into the film, which was considerable darker than the previous films. The only disappointing aspect of his character was the fact that there was no mention to his and Charles' connection, although with everything going on, the cure and the Phoenix etc, I don't think the writers could have crammed much more information in a 1 and a half hour film.

Callisto, well how she was portrayed was excellent. As someone has said before, I love the revamped costume, and am ecstatic that the eye-patch wasn't included. She has much more of a sexy, street-wise, bad-ass than a snivelling, hiding coward.

There was much more good about this film than people realise, and I'm hoping that X4 (if Fox decide to continue the franchise) will build on the success they've had, and combine X1 and X2's excellent dialogue and character development with X3's fantastic plots and action-packed story lines.
 
Even though Im 50/50 on how I viewed X3, am I still able to post here? I'm just as sad as Jean looks...er well not that sad...but she looks so sad :( :O
 
Hehe, sure you can. :p Like I said earlier, anyone can post if they have an opinion, but try to be as positive as you can. Most people that dislike the film I find have at least one thing that they found mildly interesting about it, usually the greater amount of action than in the previous movies.
 
Positive minds... UNITE :D

-Hoorree for Blue Grammer! Actually it's what his appearence in the X3 trailers which made me search more about Hank McCoy... and like him even more. When I watched the movie I loved this guy even though I felt so bad for his lack of prominence/decent character development. I even watch once again and again the Beast/Leech scene... it might have been short and a bit... in the air, but even so his [Kelsey] represantion of Beast's feelings was superb.
-Angel's first appearence. The boy's suffering, how he's cutting his wings... the scene also came out in the air, but incredibly dramatic even so.
-Famke's performance: GOD isn't she evil... it's amazing how she changes from one personality to another (although I didn't like a schizophrenic Phoenix, but this is a positive thread :p ) so easily.
-The two ideas which came out: the Phoenix and the Cure thingys.
 
Hell yes, I saw this thing twice in one day and I can't remeber the last time that happened.

The last act was epic, the entire Golden Gate Bridge scene was woozers.:woot:

Moorlocks, c'mon

Not as good as X2-which is CLASSIC, but better than the first.
 
i really liked the movie's take on the Phoenix. i was totally expecting to not be like the comic's cosmic power since it was to be more realistic and i found the split personality caused by the blocks an excelent idea.

what was really interesting was 5 hrs later after watching the midnight premier showing, in my Psychology class we learned about the Split Personlity Disorder. that class discussion really helped me understand the movie's Phoenix little more and appreciate it.

and Famke's acting was so excelent i certainly believed the role she was playing.

phoenix raptor or not, in my opinion the movie phoenix is a great Phoenix addition to the Marvel world
 
soundtrack, angel flashback, entrance to Alcatraz, Mystique (cries), well Phoenix, no, not Phoenix, forget it. Magneto...and that's pretty much it.
 
1. All the casting for this movie was spot-on. I'm not sure about Juggernaut's dialogue, but he looked the part and or/felt the part as did everyone else. Even when their look varied from traditional comicbook images (Callisto, Arclight), I felt the movie version was excellent.

2. They still haven't got Storm entirely right (lack of an origin AGAIN, giving her very little to do at Alcatraz thanks to cutting the wave scene, and making her a little to hard-line in places), but I loved most of what we got from her - balcony scene, eulogy, twister attack at Jean's house, the goddess-like descent at Alcatraz, lightning assault on Callisto, the angry emoting felt right in this movie, just as good as the previous movies' controlled calmness. Next time, longer hair in the same colouring! And a goddam origin scene.

3. Beast - perfect in almost every way. The fighting at Alcatraz was wonderfully done, the emotional impact of Leech's gene-suppression... all so well done it's a shame if we don't see Beast again

4. The Brotherhood - particularly loved Arclight's moody mean look and power displays, Callisto's ghetto warrior attitude and the speed-climbing to bring down Storm (loved the spitting to one side after she knocks hell out of Ororo at Alcatraz). Also loved the much-too-brief Psylocke. Quill also had his moment in viciously killing Dr Rao.

5. Dr Rao - wonderfully done, great voice.

6. Angel - fantastic, despite the sudden appearance at Alcatraz. Symbolic of parental pressures/oppression and the need for freedom, a gay metaphor if ever there was one!

7. Phoenix - sometimes i feel unsure of the split personality choice, but Famke did it wonderfully. Most of all i love her in the infirmary, at her parents' house and her final moments especially the transition to finding peace at last. They saved her crazy power moment to the end as they did with Storm in X1 but it gave the impression of Jean not doing much for some time before, so we needed a few more scenes of turmoil.

8. Cyclops - his role was so limited, but he did brilliantly with what he did have. Shame his departure was so quickly done. Maybe he was knocked unconscious into those woods, or restored when Jean found peace at the end...

9. Magneto - as wonderful as ever, loved the emoting and gesturing when he uproots and lifts the bridge, like all the dialogue except the 'What have i done' which wasn't delivered quite right to my ears. Absolutely love how he says 'Read off the guest list' with a sideways smirk to Pyro, 'How fascinating' when told of Juggernaut's ability, and 'I can't imagine why' when told of Juggernaut's name. His reaction to Mystique's curing is also wonderfully done, with a look of speechless sadness/shock that says it all.

10. Rogue - mixed feelings over her taking the cure, but Anna was wonderful in the scenes she did have.

11. Kitty - again, very good acting, love the look of terror when Juggernaut smashes into Leech's room. The skating scene (and in her room just before it ) is wonderfully done.

12. Wolverine - some classic moments in there --- but also some things I felt weren't quite in character, a little forced (crying over Xavier's chair).

13. Bobby - also excellent, the battle with Pyro does not feel as bad as people say, we've never had Pyro creating fire dragons or all that comicbook stufff, it was purely a battle of two elements just as two people with elemental projecting powers might deliver it...

that's all that comes to mind for now... I've just watched X3 again so some of that stuff is fresh in my mind..

All in all, this franchise must be commended for its choice of actors and making the utterly fantastical seem so utterly believable and human in all three movies.
 
I disliked a lot, but I also liked some things. Phoenix was cool I thought. The Beast was great. Perfect casting. Visually, this was a very stunning movie overall, especially the big final battle at the end.
 
The Good:

Displays of Power – Phoenix, Professor Xavier, Wolverine and Storm were all handled perfectly.
The Pace and Story – The flow of the film was superb. Your attention was grabbed right from the first scene and it never was relinquished. This is a bad bathroom break movie because there was never a good time to take your eyes off the screen.
Acting – Juggernaut’s ham up aside, there’s not one weak scene in the entire film in terms of performance. Everyone came to play. Kelsey brought credibility to a blue hairy ape. Marsden’s anguish in his few scenes really stood out. Sir Ian stole just about every scene. Even Halle Berry toned it down. Her eulogy was maybe the most moving part of the film.
Beast – The look, attitude and presence, I just loved everything about this new character.
Two of The Greatest Scenes in Sci-Fi history – The Phoenix/Xavier scene as Magneto looks on in horror while Wolverine and Storm battle the Brotherhood could be the highlight of this entire trilogy. I don’t know if the bridge movement and final battle can be considered one long scene but it was amazing nonetheless.
Special Effects – Most (not all) were absolutely amazing.
 
YJ1 said:
The Pace and Story – The flow of the film was superb. Your attention was grabbed right from the first scene and it never was relinquished. This is a bad bathroom break movie because there was never a good time to take your eyes off the screen.

The pacing is actually what I thought was the film's main weakness. It moved far too quickly, which stifled much of the emotion and character development I think.
 
i loved these
- phoenix's destruction on alkatraz
-phoenix and xavier face off
-angel flashback
-what cyclops did have
- epic storytelling
 
What I loved:

-Rogue in the Danger Room
-Shadowcat, love when she races Juggs
-every scene with Mystique is wonderful, she is prob the best character in the entire movie series... they were stupid for curing her bc she shouldve had a spinoff (although I have an idea to get around the curing ;) )
-Famke is amazing in this film, she is prob the most developed character in the series and Famke really brought out the best in her.
-multiple man
-iceman all iced up
 
What did I like about this film? Ok, here we go, from beginning to end!

The first thing I liked was the scene with young Angel. I thought it was very sensitive and touching, and I just wish I hadn't have already seen it before seeing the movie.
I liked James Marsden's performance A LOT. He did a fabulous job with the material he was given.
I also liked Kelsey Grammar's performance as Beast, and honestly wish he could have been given more footage.
Famke Janssen was her usuall fabulous self, and it is such a shame that Phoenix was not given the time, story and effects that she deserved.
And PYRO! I love him, he's wonderful.
 
spark627 said:
What I loved:

-every scene with Mystique is wonderful, she is prob the best character in the entire movie series... they were stupid for curing her bc she shouldve had a spinoff (although I have an idea to get around the curing ;) )

I dunno if a spinoff movie would work but I agree, Mystique is definitely one of the more prominent reasons to watch this trilogy!:up: I think my favourite scene with her is in X2 where she infliltrates Strykers base and slides backwards along the floor giving the finger to Stryker. She shines in all 3 movies though.
 
I think a spin-off with her as sort of a spy working against the government would be cool. I figure, in the comics Mystique is immune to poisons and chemicals and whatnot, so in the movie world they can use that and say she faked being cured so that they would interrogate her again and she could lie to them about where magneto is hiding (which is why they found multiple man instead of magneto) bc in X3 it is kinda in the air, bc if that wasn't a plan between mags and mystique how would mags know not to be there and to set them up using MM....
 
Storm22 said:
What effects didn't you like?

Can't speak for YJ1, but I wasn't a fan of the "demolecularization" effects.

Hell, I wasn't a fan of the demolecularization period.

To me, the only times it looked good was when Xavier was still struggling against Phoenix, and his clothes were all torn and shredded, and when Wolverine was marching up towards Jean to stop Phoenix, and his skin was being ripped and shredded.
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
Can't speak for YJ1, but I wasn't a fan of the "demolecularization" effects.

Hell, I wasn't a fan of the demolecularization period.

To me, the only times it looked good was when Xavier was still struggling against Phoenix, and his clothes were all torn and shredded, and when Wolverine was marching up towards Jean to stop Phoenix, and his skin was being ripped and shredded.

I liked those FX personally, especially in Alcatraz when you see the slo mo shot of the soldier falling from the tower and demolecularizing as he falls.
 

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