Discussion: FOX News

[Schlosser85]

Well I don't see why the Huffington Post felt the guys holding the 9/11 banner were "ridiculous".

 

[Marx]

Thank you for the links imdaly.

 

[Dr. Evil]

How the heck are these pictures 'ridiculous'??

If someone holding an American flag, or wearing a shirt with the flag on it, or a shirt that says 'Restoring Honor', or heaven forbid a shirt with a George Washington quote on it are the best examples that site could find of 'ridiculousness' at the rally, then I'd say that was a pretty ridiculous-free event!



You didn't look too hard then.

Check out Glenn Beck's own site for good pictures of the historic event:

On Stage: Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5

The People: Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5

The Crowd: Page 1, Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5

This was an interesting photo:

For those who are not sports fans, the man with Beck is Baseball Superstar Albert Puljols, who's Hispanic.

 

[Marx]

Well I don't see why the Huffington Post felt the guys holding the 9/11 banner were "ridiculous".

Maybe it's being seen as 'ridiculous' because some people are still trying to capitalize on it? I don't know.

 

[Schlosser85]

I think the people holding the sign were probably sincere. Unfortunately I also think they're gullible and they've been taken in by hucksters like Beck and Palin who use the well-intentioned masses to further themselves.

 

[Heretic]

I love that people wearing tshirts of the founding fathers and buttons celebrating constitutional rights are somehow considered partisan and ridiculous.

Although, I will point out that one guy is wearing a tshirt that has a quote from george Washington about how you cant govern a country without god and the bible...and George Washington never said that...the quote is simply made up.

But yeah...if it is partisan to support the constitution and respect the founding fathers, then consider me partisan. If that is clearly right wing, then that would mean that left wing does not believe in those things? If any liberals want to go on record condemning the founding fathers and the constitution, then take your best shot and I'll see you at the voting booths.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

I love that people wearing tshirts of the founding fathers and buttons celebrating constitutional rights are somehow considered partisan and ridiculous.

Although, I will point out that one guy is wearing a tshirt that has a quote from george Washington about how you cant govern a country without god and the bible...and George Washington never said that...the quote is simply made up.

But yeah...if it is partisan to support the constitution and respect the founding fathers, then consider me partisan. If that is clearly right wing, then that would mean that left wing does not believe in those things? If any liberals want to go on record condemning the founding fathers and the constitution, then take your best shot and I'll see you at the voting booths.

a couple of points. the "founding fathers" disagreed on a lot of issues. so using a blanket statement like "I support the founding father's positions" is a little ambiguous. which founding father's position on which issue?

also I do take a little offense when someone lays claim to the flag or the constitution,or God as fully supporting their position on an issue. To me that's like them saying "If you disagree with me you're Un-American or Godless or both"

 

[Hobodeluxe]

This was an interesting photo:

For those who are not sports fans, the man with Beck is Baseball Superstar Albert Puljols, who's Hispanic.

reminds me of this

I wonder why Glenn didn't go on one of his social justice rants when he was "honoring " MLK?
Seems like the perfect opportunity to decry King and Jesus' teachings.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

Glenn Beck to open a new news website

 

[hippie_hunter]

Glenn Beck to open a new news website

That sounds as if it'll be just as bad, if not worse, as the Huffington Post.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

That sounds as if it'll be just as bad, if not worse, as the Huffington Post.

meh Huffpost is an entertainment/world news aggregate on one side and a blog posting/op -ed site on the other. They have conservatives blogging there too.

I think this will be more along the lines of Alex Jones meets Pat Robertson.

and did you notice who had a front row seat right behind Glenn during the rally?

John "the Catholic church is the great ****e of Revelations" Hagee.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

Propaganda works

if it wasn't so sad it'd be funny

 

[hippie_hunter]

meh Huffpost is an entertainment/world news aggregate on one side and a blog posting/op -ed site on the other. They have conservatives blogging there too.

I think this will be more along the lines of Alex Jones meets Pat Robertson.

and did you notice who had a front row seat right behind Glenn during the rally?

John "the Catholic church is the great ****e of Revelations" Hagee.

Even the news on the Huffington Post is biased as hell. Although this would probably be worse because while absurdly biased, the Huffington Post still posts well....things that happen. Beck's site on the other hand, would probably flat out make **** up.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

Even the news on the Huffington Post is biased as hell. Although this would probably be worse because while absurdly biased, the Huffington Post still posts well....things that happen. Beck's site on the other hand, would probably flat out make **** up.

the news on Huffpost is biased as hell?

hmm here's today's news links from Huffpost


Headline story is from that liberal rag the WSJ

here's an AP article

another AP article

another AP article

Oh look a Mother Jones article pointing out the inaccuracies of Beck's speeches at his rally. This must certainly be biased as it contains the cspan video of the speech in question. and the official record according to the national archives.

another AP article

another AP article about the weather

another AP article

another AP article on the killings in Jerusalem by Hamas certainly a lefty bias here right?

This is just the first few articles.
I found no bias. Unless reality has a bias.

maybe you're confusing the news section with the editorial /blog section? a section open to anyone. Conservatives often blog here too.

Unlike certain other websites they keep the news and commentary separate. They don't propagate opinion as news.

 

[Hobodeluxe]

Looks like Rupert Murdoch will have to open his wallet again.

 

[Matt]

What does any of that have to do with Fox News or Murdoch?

 

[Hobodeluxe]

What does any of that have to do with Fox News or Murdoch?

Murdoch likes giving millions to Republican governors?

 

[TimBisley]

Has anyone seen Outfoxed? It was a pretty good doc, it should be online or on Netflix.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Murdoch likes giving millions to Republican governors?

So? It's his money. He's free to do whatever he wants. Just like how George Soros has given millions to Democratic candidates like Barack Obama.

 

[DACrowe]

True. However, it is incredibly disheartening to see the media (and NewsCorp is the media with Fox News, WSJ, New York Post, etc.) so flat out sold out to a political party. In principle the media should be the watchdog of government and political parties, not a partner, or worse a patron picking winners and losers. A media that is no more than propaganda for one side or the other is a tragedy.

But it is perfectly legal, you are right.

 

[StorminNorman]

They are sold to a political ideology. Like most of the media is sold on Progressivism.

 

[Heretic]

a couple of points. the "founding fathers" disagreed on a lot of issues. so using a blanket statement like "I support the founding father's positions" is a little ambiguous. which founding father's position on which issue?

also I do take a little offense when someone lays claim to the flag or the constitution,or God as fully supporting their position on an issue. To me that's like them saying "If you disagree with me you're Un-American or Godless or both"

Which founding fathers? I dont know...ask whoever was at the event. I'm not here to speak for them. My only statement was that there is nothing partisan about respecting the founding fathers. Since the founding fathers disagreed all the time, and it IS possible to respect all of them in their various opinions and contributions, then it would seem to be impossible to be partisan in respecting the founding fathers...yet the left wing is treating it as if it is a right wing issue.

Regarding religion...the right wing has all but hijacked the constitution and history books in claiming that America is a christian nation. I find it insulting because I actually do respect all of the founding fathers...in all their various different belief systems...and for the Christians to downplay or try to erase the non-christian aspects of our country's founding is just wrong.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Regarding religion...the right wing has all but hijacked the constitution and history books in claiming that America is a christian nation. I find it insulting because I actually do respect all of the founding fathers...in all their various different belief systems...and for the Christians to downplay or try to erase the non-christian aspects of our country's founding is just wrong.

This is probably the best post I've seen on the Hype. This encapsulates everything I've been saying to people in my area for years. Bravo to you sir!

 

[StorminNorman]

a couple of points. the "founding fathers" disagreed on a lot of issues. so using a blanket statement like "I support the founding father's positions" is a little ambiguous. which founding father's position on which issue?

Which is why I began my understanding of the Founding Fathers with Alexander Hamilton - the most "liberal" (in the modern sense) of the group. Even his expansive view of the federal government does not mesh with the current one. He recognized that the Constitution (though he may not have seen in as the ideal system) protected the sovereignty of the state.

also I do take a little offense when someone lays claim to the flag or the constitution,or God as fully supporting their position on an issue. To me that's like them saying "If you disagree with me you're Un-American or Godless or both"

Get use to it. I get a little offended when someone claims that I am racist because I advocate a return to the Constitution or States Rights.

 

[DACrowe]

They are sold to a political ideology. Like most of the media is sold on Progressivism.

Whatever.

There are liberally biased outlets like MSNBC, The Huffington Post, etc. But there are many that are nonpartisan or at least do not try to manipulate the news.

What Murdoch is doing is closer to Hearst and yellow journalism at the turn of the last century. He is far more out there than anyone else when he actually tries to manipulate the news by ENDORSING A PARTY AND GIVING THEM $1 MILLION. It is beyond bias. Any journalism school teaches that journalistic ethics would include not taking money or giving money to sources or public figures.

This is not just a slant in reporting. This is actively trying to get one party elected and trying to manipulate the next ten years (as governors will have a lot of power influencing the next census and therefore gerrymandering house rep. seats).

It is blinders to pretend there is some form of moral equivalency here. There is not.