🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[squeekness]

Alright, so realistically now, how much damage can RFK Jr. actually do?

A lot. Probably more than we can repair quickly if we win next time.

 

[Detective Conan]

For the first in my life I’m utterly ashamed and embarrassed to be American. I thought we were better than this but it only turns out we are so so much worse.

**** Trump and **** his dumbass delusional supporters.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

How much bad data do you think the Harris campaign was dealing with or did they always know it was a coin flip? Their campaign manager kept saying there were multiple paths to 270 but clearly there really weren't.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[squeekness]

If this was always going to be the result no matter what Trump did, then it feels like this whole campaign was just one big waste of time and money. Biden should've just stayed on since it wouldn't have made much of a difference.

It does go to show that the amount of money you raise doesn't mean squat.

 

[DKDetective]

This guy here who successfully predicted all the previous presidents (including Trump in 2016) using his "keys to the Whitehouse" method predicted Kamala Harris this time. How did he get it so wrong now?

If Lichtman was wrong and I still hope he was not, the issue then is he misread his two economic keys. I recall him saying they were in favour of Harris ,but exit polls clearly suggest otherwise.

 

[Herolee10]

How much bad data do you think the Harris campaign was dealing with or did they always know it was a coin flip? Their campaign manager kept saying there were multiple paths to 270 but clearly there really weren't.

At this point, I hope Kamala already has a concession speech prepared because she's pretty much done for..

 

[squeekness]

Trump is supposed to speak soon. I'm amazed he's still awake. He'll probably declare himself the winner.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Herolee10]

It does go to show that the amount of money you raise doesn't mean squat.

That and how many people show up at your rallies. Prior to Kamala getting officially nominated, I didn't have any real interest for this election.

I really regret in getting emotionally invested since I would have saved myself so much time and stress had I known that Kamala would still lose.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Fox and Decision Desk have given Trump PA..

 

[squeekness]

So how many Ukrainians and Gazans will be dead by the end of next year?

 

[Kon]

Honestly, I feel Kamala could have more possibilities to win the Electoral College than popular vote this time.

Trump has been too high on the blue states.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

There's a lot of people out there where the lights are on but nobody's home.

Not just Trump evidently.

 

[squeekness]

Honestly, I feel Kamala could have more possibilities to win the Electoral College than popular vote this time.

Trump has been to high on the blue states.

Is she ahead in the popular vote? I doubt it. Abolishing the EC wouldn't help this round.

 

[Herolee10]

Well folks, I really don't know what else to say. I'd like to hope that we can survive another four more years of Donald Trump, but I'm too concerned to think what he has in mind for this country.

This country is in a for a very rough four years with the consequences likely to be felt even longer. We lost big and we lost hard tonight.

 

[blueharvest]

Sen. Bernie Sanders wins a fourth term representing Vermont

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has won reelection to a fourth six-year term. The 83-year-old independent senator is a self-described democratic socialist who caucuses with the Democrats and twice came close to winning the presidential nomination.

apnews.com

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

According to FiveThirtyEight Harris peaked as a candidate on August 23 (final night of DNC) with a polling margin of +3.7 and finished with margin of +1.2 yesterday. Not great. The margins really tightened in mid-October.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There's a lot of people out there where the lights are on but nobody's home.

Not just Trump evidently.

Definitely. But I think people let the Dems off way too easy. How much of a difference do they actually offer to the common folks, when they end up serving the same overlords?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

According to FiveThirtyEight Harris peaked as a candidate on August 23 (final night of DNC) with a polling margin of +3.7 and finished with margin of +1.2 yesterday. Not great. The margins really tightened in mid-October.

When she decided her path to victory was Republican votes.

 

[Hobgoblin]

People will be celebrating. They'll literally be overjoyed by this outcome. It's like they've been hypnotized by a language that the rest of us don't understand. When **** that Trump passes starts to make things go south, and people start getting hurt, his supporters will either be enthralled or utterly confused by the strange outcome. It's exhausting and infuriating.

The chaos has been beating on the door. Next year it breaks through.

 

[SuperSpideyGirl]

Tried going to bed a while ago but haven't slept a wink. This flat out sucks. Hope the Dems can at least flip the House.

 

[squeekness]

Tried going to bed a while ago but haven't slept a wink. This flat out sucks. Hope the Dems can at least flip the House.

I'm not even confident about that anymore.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Dems are learning what "normal" Republicans learned 8 years ago. When you're offer a lesser version of what the other guy is offering, they're just going to go with the "real deal".

Kamala could've been a change candidate. But she ran from it. Instead going into the safe little hole Dems love. And well, she ain't some old white guy who gets a pass by default.

Our country sucks. And the Dems help make it worse.

Also **** the media.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

When she decided her path to victory was Republican votes.

The campaign should have worried more about the male vote than the Republican vote in that I agree.

Preliminary exit polls

Party ID
Democrats - 4% voted for Trump
Republicans - 5% vote for Harris
Independents - 50% for Harris

These are early and unadjusted but it looks like that strategy failed as it may not have been more than any previous election.